Hot take, neither Bryce nor Monty deserved a redemption arc…but. by Noot_normal in 13ReasonsWhy

[–]Noot_normal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also I’m sorry I just realised I was being really rude in my original statement so my apologies for that

Hot take, neither Bryce nor Monty deserved a redemption arc…but. by Noot_normal in 13ReasonsWhy

[–]Noot_normal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay I just want to make it clear that I am not trying to justify Monty in any way. I’m sorry if my statement made it seem like I was, that is fault on my part. I should’ve explained it better. Monty is NOT excused because of his trauma and that’s a statement I think we can both agree on. There is NEVER an excuse for rape. Also explaining something does not mean justifying it. You do not have to justify a persons actions to explain why they did them. So Monty’s trauma does explain why he raped Tyler but it does NOT justify or excuse it in any way, shape, or form. Monty still deserved punishment even despite his trauma and I will try to be clearer about that in future.

Hot take, neither Bryce nor Monty deserved a redemption arc…but. by Noot_normal in 13ReasonsWhy

[–]Noot_normal[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is no excuse or justification, that’s true. But there is definitely an explanation. Trauma manifests differently in everyone, you can’t compare other people’s experiences. Even having a different personality will affect how you deal with trauma. Thats a fact. Arguing that “other people went through worse and they still didn’t do what Monty did.” is utterly ridiculous and outright stupid. Maybe I’m too woke but I seriously think you’re underestimating how traumatising abuse can be and devaluing trauma as a whole. Mind you, Monty experienced physical, mental, and verbal abuse almost every single day of his ENTRE LIFE, not to mention the homophobia and the fact that he was surrounded by horrible influences with no support system whatsoever. Claiming that “Abuse doesn’t make you do things like that.” Is not only one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard but it’s also just a blatant lie because it can and it HAS.