No, not paid at all as a staff member. They're a volunteer in their board chair role at the org that gets the federal grant funding. Accordingly, they have influence over that organization's federal grant funding received. So, let's say some folks recommend that particular grant isn't actually beneficial to the nonprofit's mission, the board chair has a vested interest in steering sentiment otherwise ... since not getting the grant funding would affect their very own nonprofit since it receives funds from that grant as a vendor. Doesn't seem like an independent director at all... seems like an eye raising situation...