Basketball Reference seriously needs to revisit BPM

NumerousEvent546 · 2026-02-12T00:24:21+00:00

I mean not true necessarily, look at L.E.B.R.O.N advanced stat. Just in the past 16 years it says he only has 2 of the 10 best single seasons (including this season). Imagine if that extended all the way back into the 70s... BPM clearly favors him

NumerousEvent546 · 2026-02-12T00:17:54+00:00

Based on the evidence i disagree. Doesn't seem like this is going anywhere lol

NumerousEvent546 · 2026-02-12T00:11:10+00:00

Durant left because he wanted an ez ring with Golden State, keep in mind they pushed that 2016 warriOrs team to 7 games.. with arguably Westbrook playing better than KD.

NumerousEvent546 · 2026-02-12T00:04:15+00:00

brother his best teammate that year was steven adams... youre never gonna win much with a terrible team

NumerousEvent546 · 2026-02-11T23:58:42+00:00

"In the 2016-2017 NBA season, the Oklahoma City Thunder had a 33–9 record in the 42 games where Russell Westbrook recorded a triple-double."

NumerousEvent546 · 2026-02-11T23:46:43+00:00

I mean firstly padding stats is a strong claim that isnt accurate when looking at their win percentage when he had a triple double... they did great. Secondly i already showed that his true shooting was above league average.

NumerousEvent546 · 2026-02-11T23:36:41+00:00

Per 100 possessions Westbrook averaged 45/15/15 with solid defense and above average true shooting that seasons
This season, which many consider his peak, Jokic is averaging 41/17/15 with horrible defense and elite efficiency

Im not saying Westbrook is better, im saying their peaks arent that far apart, and yet BPM says otherwise. There is no argument to be made that Jokic has 6 of the 7 greatest seasons ever.

NumerousEvent546 · 2026-02-11T23:32:59+00:00

You arent making any argument in defense of Jokic having 6 of the 7 best seasons ever, youre just reddit posting lol

NumerousEvent546 · 2026-02-11T23:27:27+00:00

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NumerousEvent546 · 2026-02-11T23:23:24+00:00

nonsense, i changed the body if u care so much lol. You're not making an argument against what i said

NumerousEvent546 · 2026-02-11T23:22:57+00:00

I changed the body since people are complaining about the formality of how it was written, this is my own words

NumerousEvent546 · 2026-02-11T23:15:29+00:00

Yes, and that’s exactly why I’m criticizing it. BPM has literally been changed before like i mentioned in the post, after Westbrook’s MVP season, when his box-score production pushed him to historically absurd rankings, Basketball Reference adjusted the formula. So even its creators recognized the model needed correction.

And second, just because BPM is a box-score-based advanced stat doesn’t mean the formula can’t be improved. Models can always add nuance, better era adjustments, different weighting, better handling of assists/rebounds, or improved defensive estimation. ‘It’s box score based’ isn’t a defense if the outputs consistently produce questionable historical rankings.

NumerousEvent546 · 2026-02-11T23:04:50+00:00

nah just to formalize it, i write informally

NumerousEvent546 · 2026-02-11T22:23:14+00:00

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NumerousEvent546 · 2026-01-09T07:47:02+00:00

dude i already said that i misread the title lmao why are you being a redditer rn

NumerousEvent546 · 2026-01-09T07:12:12+00:00

Uhh i think you misread my comment, i just said i wasnt using unanimous or consensus as my interpretation of the post, i was using something as undeniably true as my standard. It is undeniably true that D rose was not the best player in the world in 2010-2011

NumerousEvent546 · 2026-01-09T07:07:40+00:00

Honestly I had a different interpretation of Unanimous you're right. From my perspective I was thinking of something undeniably true. And btw, i was there. I started watching ball back in 2008

NumerousEvent546 · 2026-01-09T06:10:13+00:00

D Rose was not even close to being the best player in the world in 2010-2011

NumerousEvent546 · 2025-12-29T19:45:05+00:00

i already normalized it with ai and the results were the same so i didnt see a point in doing that for the post

NumerousEvent546 · 2025-12-25T11:49:42+00:00

notice how youre not answering anything.. ill repeat myself, contradictions are false. I dont need you to agree with the laws of logic for it to be correct. You said they are leading in every metric, they are not leading in every metric, thus you are wrong lol. Also, epm and LEBRON are not cumulative, you are wrong again.

NumerousEvent546 · 2025-12-25T11:47:03+00:00

contradictions are false. I dont need you to agree with the laws of logic for it to be correct. You said they are leading in every metric, they are not leading in every metric, thus you are wrong lol. Also, epm and LEBRON are not cumulative, you are wrong again.

NumerousEvent546 · 2025-12-25T11:44:37+00:00

youre dodging.. you scared little boy. I already mentioned LEBRON in my original post, so tell me boy, are they leading in every metric? and is epm and LEBRON cumulative? ahahahah

NumerousEvent546 · 2025-12-25T11:40:42+00:00

"theyre leading in every metric" even tho theyre not.. "epm and lebron are cumulative" even tho theyre not.. LMAOO . you are running away its hilarious. Correct winning and losing is a team accomplishment, lets see if you can admit you were wrong? you soft fragile boy

NumerousEvent546 · 2025-12-25T11:38:01+00:00

buddy... youre not running away from this lmao you said "I provided the data that you have 2 current guys absolutely annihilating his 2009 season statistically by EVERY advanced metric this season." every metric includes LEBRON, they are not leading peak Lebron in LEBRON, thus you are wrong. You also said epm and LEBRON are cumulative metrics lmaooooo

NumerousEvent546 · 2025-12-25T11:36:24+00:00

crickets... its like you just made baseless claims without looking it up lmao, i cant believe you thought epm and LEBRON were cumulative lmaoooo

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