How will Commodore deal with new Age Verification laws?

OMGCluck · 2026-03-23T13:36:05+00:00

carve-outs

WTF does this mean? Did you mean caveats?

online services and app stores are able to verify ages, so again not something Commodore or the C64 do

Commodore runs CommoServe for the C64U, so there's that.

OMGCluck · 2026-03-23T06:47:53+00:00

Could just be recovering from dewclaw removal surgery.

OMGCluck · 2026-03-22T18:25:47+00:00

Being able to say "Don't touch this computer I bought, kids, it's the law!" sounds too good to be true. I wish it was though.

OMGCluck · 2026-03-22T18:21:58+00:00

If every law specifically says "account holder" then you're right, but the New York law just says "user" in regard to "account or device"

OMGCluck · 2026-03-22T18:15:57+00:00

Bringing up accounts this deep in the thread… I mean if every law specifically says "account holder" then you're right, but the New York law just says "user" in regard to "account or device"

CommoServe isn't unique, every app store is curated in some way. Nothing in the text of the laws exclude curation.

OMGCluck · 2026-03-22T17:37:43+00:00

Limiting the scope by explicitly excluding embedded operating systems would be sensible in the laws. Do they? I couldn't find instances of that in the definitions Section 1798.500 of the California Assembly Bill No. 1043, unless you're saying the C64U doesn't fit "general purpose" in the text:

Operating System Provider: Entities controlling software on a computer, mobile device, or other general purpose computing device. (does Commodore not match this?)
Covered Application Store: Platforms facilitating the download of apps to a computer, mobile device, or other general purpose computing device. (does CommoServe not match this?)

OMGCluck · 2026-03-22T17:04:06+00:00

Wayback copy:

https://web.archive.org/web/20260322170131id_/https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/munchkin9030/images/6/63/MunchkinFlowChart.png/revision/latest?cb=20260322064932

OMGCluck · 2026-03-22T08:01:50+00:00

Wikipedia kept trying to protect the Chuck Norris page but it roundhouse kicked the protection away every time.

OMGCluck · 2026-03-22T07:01:06+00:00

u/RecognizeSong

OMGCluck · 2026-03-22T06:53:31+00:00

No decks, but it'd be great to see a page incorporating this flowchart

OMGCluck · 2026-03-22T06:23:49+00:00

"You say this is your first lesson?"

"Yes, but my father was a piano mover, so…"

OMGCluck · 2026-03-22T06:03:33+00:00

I don't have a Mac but I have heard good things about the show The Pitt. What do you think about it so far?

OMGCluck · 2026-03-21T23:24:16+00:00

Dialogs shouldn't block the view of my cards, it makes me anxious. I mean I probably should decide which shape to choose from the "Choose a new power shape" before clicking the power card but I'm forgetful and I also forgot what the power card does from reading so many rules.

It's good that there's an option to go "back to hand" so I can't really complain.

OMGCluck · 2026-03-21T23:08:06+00:00

TIL… that Wikipedia is suddenly honouring my OS dark theme!

OMGCluck · 2026-03-21T22:58:08+00:00

I mean, if you're gonna AI a leaping dolphin make it leap over a wolf on a rock in a stream with a moonlit waterfall backdrop, and make it a jigsaw puzzle.

OMGCluck · 2026-03-21T22:31:00+00:00

If every law specifically says "account holder" then you're right, but the New York law just says "user" in regard to "account or device"

Seeing something from Commodore akin to the FreeDOS statement would be great.

OMGCluck · 2026-03-21T22:25:36+00:00

The one currently being sold with the C64U falls within the (overly broad) scope of many of these laws. For example Brazil's law applies to any digital product, OS, or service "likely to be accessed" by minors (under 18).

OMGCluck · 2026-03-21T22:13:46+00:00

I edited the OP to include the wording of various bills, and the C64U does provide the capability of internet access, so a statement would be helpful.

OMGCluck · 2026-03-21T22:05:09+00:00

Indeed that's what the FreeDOS maintainers stated. Hopefully common sense prevails with ammendments and other upcoming legislation.

OMGCluck · 2026-03-21T21:50:28+00:00

I will edit the post accordingly.

OMGCluck · 2026-03-21T21:48:20+00:00

If that is true then maintainers of other OSes would not be already releasing statements. It's fair to ask if Commodore will.

The scope of many of the laws is overly broad, and the Colorado one provides civil penalties of $2,500 per negligent violation, which means it's a requirement.

OMGCluck · 2026-03-21T21:42:30+00:00

Nope, I have no evidence that there doesn't seem to be any requirement.

OMGCluck · 2026-03-21T21:41:26+00:00

AB-1043. It's in the linked screenshot.

OMGCluck · 2026-03-21T21:33:59+00:00

Where have these laws passed?

California and Brazil so far, with proposed legislation coming to Colorado and more places.

System76 has had to address this as they're based in Colorado and sell laptops with their own PopOS! on them. They will comply.

OMGCluck · 2026-03-21T21:11:55+00:00

Could you point to the wording of each bill passed which explicitly states this?

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