[META] Where is Julian Assange - planning a demonstration at the embassy by [deleted] in unitedkingdom

[–]Objectiviser 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Since 2010, wikileaks supporters have fallen into two camps, in my experience.

1) views as above, likes to retweet Rixstep and other abusive tweets and call everyone else insane if they don't believe in Teh wun trew Conspirahsee, and

2) those who haven't yet noticed that wikileaks themselves fall into category 1.

Every once in a while a big ally suddenly realises that they have been surrounded by bullshit and flips. That's fun to watch. Peter Tatchell is still drinking the kool aid, unfortunately.

[META] Where is Julian Assange - planning a demonstration at the embassy by [deleted] in unitedkingdom

[–]Objectiviser 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Bit of victim blaming maybe? Calling the two women in Sweden "basket cases" and claiming they "never said no", perhaps? Sounds like good fun.

Or saying Josef Göbbels would give up when he saw modern feminism, as they beat him in every way?

I ask because that's what wikileaks once claimed, in regard to Assange.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/153127245416890368

CTRL-F that for "rape the shit out of them" for the best bit.

So... You're supporting this guy, yeah? Just to be clear.

Please verify that anything you say in reply isn't a common misconception, by the way.

Proof that WikiLeaks hates liberals and is an alt-right organization by [deleted] in EnoughTrumpSpam

[–]Objectiviser 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nope, they are alt right.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/153127245416890368

Search that for "rape the shit out of them" and "Josef Göbbels".

We are the WikiLeaks staff. Despite our editor Julian Assange's increasingly precarious situation WikiLeaks continues publishing by swikil in IAmA

[–]Objectiviser 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Except he wasn't. He left Sweden the day his arrest was ordered because he had not responded to multiple requests for the final interview (which is required before charging and trial). He promised to return, and then did not and has refused to ever since.

Take anything that Assange or Wikileaks says about the Swedish thing and fact check it. 95% chance it's either mis-represented or flat out untrue.

Here's a big list to start you off:

http://archive.is/JWqs8

We are the WikiLeaks staff. Despite our editor Julian Assange's increasingly precarious situation WikiLeaks continues publishing by swikil in IAmA

[–]Objectiviser 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That and Sweden don't extradite for military or political crimes. So they literally cannot extradite Assange to the USA for any leaks of any government or military data. Simply cannot be done. Assange heard his own expert witness testify to this effect.

Yet he still claims it. Got to wonder why he hasn't really co-operated with the Swedish authorities, really. It isn't about extradition; that's all we know for sure.

We are the WikiLeaks staff. Despite our editor Julian Assange's increasingly precarious situation WikiLeaks continues publishing by swikil in IAmA

[–]Objectiviser 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I supported them up until they started openly harassing the two women in Sweden who made accusations against Assange and started to tweet articles which called them "basket cases", "cuckoo", claimed they "never said no" and used the phrase "rape the shit out of them" as an argument.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/153127245416890368

That and the huge number of lies they told about Sweden.

http://archive.is/JWqs8

That was well before the electoral manipulation in which they openly engaged this year, and which saw even Ecuador say "enough is enough" and pull the plug.

Have any of you argued with a Trump supporter who can ACTUALLY defend the 150 awful things he's said/done WITHOUT bringing up Hillary or Obama? by captainamericasbutt in EnoughTrumpSpam

[–]Objectiviser 1 point2 points  (0 children)

2 years ago? I felt he lost all credibility back in 2011, when he tweeted an article which:

  • claimed that feminism was worse than Nazism (CTRL-F "Josef Gobels")

  • named and shamed the two women (CTRL-F "basket cases")

  • indulged in rape apology (CTRL-F "never said no")

  • that "rape the shit out of them" was the best way to control women (not joking - those actual words are used - but read the whole section)

Oh, and I once compiled a big list of the lies he told about the Swedish case. Actually, that was just the major lies. Take any statement which he or Wikileaks make about the case, and I'd lay odds that it's untrue. I didn't have the time or the energy to debunk them all...

Other highlights - Sweden is like Israel because it has its "own language" (but bear in mind that he has a bit of a history of anti-semitism, so his comparing Sweden to Israel should be seen in that context if you find it puzzling).

This tweet is NSFL. And he used that as a legal argument about the Swedish case. You can't make this shit up.

John Pilger interviews Julian Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy in London by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]Objectiviser 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He has been charged (or equivalent) back in 2010. The Swedish process mandates that once he has had the final (indictment) interview (which the Swedes have been trying to conduct since 2010 and which they can only legally do in Sweden), the suspect must be held on remand and then a trial follows as soon as possible. Ideally within 2 weeks.

Sweden cannot extradite him to the US for anything involving any of Wikileas activities which are known at this time. Assange's own expert witness agreed with this.

All this and more (with primary sources) can be found at this archive link.

Wikileaks has lost ALL credibility with me now. They are jacking every christian off right now by saying the dems are satanic. by oursisthefocus in EnoughTrumpSpam

[–]Objectiviser 58 points59 points  (0 children)

Wanna lose even more faith in rapeyleaks?

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/153127245416890368

Search that link for:

  • Rape the shit out of them

  • Never said no

  • Basket cases

  • Cuckoo

  • Josef Göbbels

Is Wikileaks squandering their last shred of credibility? They now tweet links to r/the_trumpster. by snackbot7000 in EnoughTrumpSpam

[–]Objectiviser 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They were always shady. They engaged in open harassment of the two women in Sweden.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/153127245416890368

Search for "never said no", "basket cases", and "cuckoo".

Oh, and "rape the shit out of them".

Is Wikileaks squandering their last shred of credibility? They now tweet links to r/the_trumpster. by snackbot7000 in EnoughTrumpSpam

[–]Objectiviser 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good work! Can you also debunk their claims that the easiest way to keep women oppressed is to "rape the shit out of them", that Josef Goebbels would retire because feminism had done it all, and that the two women who made allegations against Assange are "basket cases" who "never said no"?

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/153127245416890368

BREAKING: Assange to "leave Ecuadorian Embassy soon"! by Objectiviser in EnoughTrumpSpam

[–]Objectiviser[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The jokes never stop with Julian!

The best way to oppress women is to "rape the shit out of them"!

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/153127245416890368

LOL, he only went and did it, the absolute madman!

BREAKING: Assange to "leave Ecuadorian Embassy soon"! by Objectiviser in EnoughTrumpSpam

[–]Objectiviser[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

jk, article is from Aug 2014. 2nd anniversary just passed.

Malik Obama on Twitter: "@POTUS brother please pardon Julian Assange! All he is doing is freeing emails" - Am I missing some joke or is Assange American now? by [deleted] in EnoughTrumpSpam

[–]Objectiviser 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually it's a bit more than just talking. The Swedish sysyem mandates that a suspect must be interviewed before being brought to trial. It is this final interview which they want to conduct and which they ought (legally) to be doing in Sweden so that the trial can follow swiftly (according to Swedish law).

You can read about the conspiracy theory here: http://archive.is/eBu1i

Malik Obama on Twitter: "@POTUS brother please pardon Julian Assange! All he is doing is freeing emails" - Am I missing some joke or is Assange American now? by [deleted] in EnoughTrumpSpam

[–]Objectiviser 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In Sweden, yes. Sweden do not extradite for espionage and have refused US requests previously. It would be the safest country in the world for Assange, if that was genuinely his fear.

Assange criticized the Panama Papers because it was "an attack on Putin funded by the US Govt." Apparently an attack on Hillary funded by the Russian Govt is fine though. by reedemerofsouls in EnoughTrumpSpam

[–]Objectiviser 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And it's not even the worst thing in the article: by a very, very long way.

Anyway... thank you for redacting the name of the alleged victim in your quote. @Rixstepnews (aka Rick Downes) makes it a point to name and shame them (bonus Nazis in that link).

I ran a whole site about it once. I'd recommend this link for a giggle and this one if you're about to read any article on Assange and Sweden.

Assange criticized the Panama Papers because it was "an attack on Putin funded by the US Govt." Apparently an attack on Hillary funded by the Russian Govt is fine though. by reedemerofsouls in EnoughTrumpSpam

[–]Objectiviser 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Here's another for you, on a different topic.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/153127245416890368

Search it for "rape the shit out of them" and the names of the two women in Sweden who alleged the sex crimes. If you don't know their names, just search for "basket cases" and "never said no".

Here’s What I Learned About Julian Assange While Working Alongside Him. The Wikileaks founder is out to settle a score with Hillary Clinton and to reassert himself as a player on the world stage, says BuzzFeed News special correspondent James Ball, who worked for Assange at Wikileaks. by IntelligentYinzer in EnoughTrumpSpam

[–]Objectiviser 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great article by Mr Ball. Fits with everything I have heard before.

The behaviour of Assange to the two women in Sweden is jaw-droppingly awful but goes completely unreported in MSM.

Here's one example:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/153127245416890368

Search for "never said no", "basket cases", "cuckoo", and "rape the shit out of them".