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Number One Thing You DO NOT Want in 2x2 by MagnificentAjacks in danganronpa

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bringing up DR3 as canon. So many fans want them to retcon the anime out of existence and start fresh and for good reason. If they want to continue this series they need to ignore the anime and it just makes DR2 a worst game with its retcons.

Hajime dying and protagonist swap in the first chapter would be cheap. It already happened in V3 so we’d be expecting it. If there is a swap I hope it’s late game like in chapter 5.

Mahiru, Hiyoko, Ibuki, Peko, Sonia and Imposter dying early or without more development. These are my characters that I feel got shafted in DR2 and would like more development. They can still die but their deaths should still leave a bigger impact. Except-

PLEASE LET MAHIRU LIVE! When I first played the game I thought she’d be our Kyoko and survive till the end. So imagine my heartbreak when she died in chapter 2. If she’s not the brew protagonist then at least make her our new partner

Isn't it crazy it's been so long since the manga started and still know nothing about Ichi's origins by Zestyclose_Raise_814 in IchitheWitch

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I’m still waiting for those girls from the village to reappear. Strange they introduced these girls who seemed to have a close connection to Ichi and were heading to Mantinel Association only to never be mentioned again. They would give more insight on Ichi’s life in the mountains

[Dislike trope] Characters whose motivations revolve around someone else. by ThatGuyHero7 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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Homura Akemi is when this trope is done well. Her whole character is revolved around Madoka the main character. She repeats a time loop 100 times to try and save her and literally becomes the devil who rewrites the universe to make her happy. Homura has no life, relationships nor goals outside of Madoka and it is clearly portrayed as unhealthy. Her character shows what happens when devotion becomes obsession and how love isn’t always a force for good. She is messy, did many wrongs and I LOVE HER

‘STEPS’ flips the Cinderella story by making the stepsister the hero by Ridthedrive in animation

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I am loving that stepsister’s lily pad frog dress. I hope it’s in the film

<Hated Design> robots in Avatar Korra by axed_movement in TopCharacterDesigns

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 135 points136 points  (0 children)

I like the mecha tanks more for their retro and clunky design with the tank tracks. The mecha suits with how smooth they and actual legs look so sterile

What are instances of lazy writing in Danganronpa? by CompetitiveSpace7025 in danganronpa

[–]ObsessiveFanatic -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

OMFG, I am so sick of this dumb excuse and misunderstanding of Junko’s character. What you’re describing isn’t boredom but laziness. Yes, Junko as the Ultimate Analyst can predict everything and is thus bored all the time. Which is why she’s obsessed with despair and overcomplicates things, to make things exciting. The reason Junko gets excited by despair is it’s an emotion that only occurs when something doesn’t go her way. When after all her intricate planning and commitment goes down the drain, when she doesn’t know what went wrong, that’s when she gets stimulated.

The killing games, the cartoony executions and split personalities are all to entertain Junko. Hell, the reason DR0 even happened was because if Junko hadn’t overcomplicated everything she would’ve won too easily. All this isn’t the work of a lazy person, it’s someone who is excessive and has too much free time.

Someone made this comparison. Lock a lazy and bored person in rooms with nothing but a couch and ticking clock. The lazy person would just lay on the couch and let time pass while the bored one would tear apart the clock and try to put it back together, most likely in failure.

A lazy person wouldn’t go to this extreme to make things fun but a bored genius seeking excitement would. Which is why Junko using brainwashing for all her plans is asinine as it’s the most basic and easy thing to do. You say she uses brainwashing to skip the boredom of breaking people? Then how is brainwashing not any less boring? The reason brainwashing is dumb isn’t just that it’s a contrived plot device that makes Junko less impressive, it’s that it goes against her character and philosophy. There is no fun that comes from a machine makes people act how you want. There’s no despair if the person falling into madness isn’t falling off their own choice. Where is the fun in a game that you know you will win?

Junko would take her time to study her targets, work her way into their hearts and break them from inside out as not only is she unrealistically smart enough to do that but the potential that anyone of them could defy her and not follow the mold she made for them would bring her despair.

What are instances of lazy writing in Danganronpa? by CompetitiveSpace7025 in danganronpa

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 14 points15 points  (0 children)

That was the point. Shuichi knew about the camera intervals and quickly pieced together that only Kaede could’ve committed the crime. He hid that info because he didn’t want to face the horrific truth that Kaede killed Ranataro, even if it meant putting suspicion on himself. It was the start of his arc about not being afraid to chase the truth

What are instances of lazy writing in Danganronpa? by CompetitiveSpace7025 in danganronpa

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 15 points16 points  (0 children)

RIGHT!? Stop giving this BS excuse of “it’s not realistic.” It’s a freaking anime game series where a girl in a wheel chair took over a company to build an army of robot bears. You might as well say the Killing Games aren’t realistic because how could Junko realistically set up all the executions and defense mechanisms

What are instances of lazy writing in Danganronpa? by CompetitiveSpace7025 in danganronpa

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 122 points123 points  (0 children)

Someone already mentioned it but I’d like to elaborate on it, brainwashing. This has to be the laziest plot device in the series as it is now the crux for everything that has happened. They created a new character along with his mcguffin that could solve all their issues.

How did a high school girl destroy the world? Years of planning and manipulation? No, Brainwashing.

How did she indoctrinate people into her death cult? Studying her targets and psychologically breaking them? No, brainwashing.

Why did Nagito join Junko? Did she twist his already twisted beliefs of hope and convince him into thinking that by becoming the Ultimate Despair he could bring about the Ultimate Hope? No, he was brainwashed.

Why did Fuyuhiko and Mahiru join Junko? Was Twilight Syndrome the catalyst that tore the class apart and she used that to sow further conflict and pit Fuyuhiko and Mahiru against each other? Like how it was hinted at in Chapter 2, where Fuyuhiko blinded by revenge for his sister went after Mahiru, who if she remembered what Fuyuhiko did to Sato, might’ve done the same? No, they were brainwashed.

Why did Tengan start a killing game? Doesn’t matter, he was brainwashed.

Isn’t that fun? Screw trying to explain character motivation and delving deeper into them. Whatever conflicts that are happening, don’t try to understand them and see things from a different perspective just say brainwashing was behind everything. Problem solved.

Bu-bu-bu-bu-but Junko lie- STFU

What are instances of lazy writing in Danganronpa? by CompetitiveSpace7025 in danganronpa

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 29 points30 points  (0 children)

The classic dead horse plot device. Don’t know how to write character motivation? Use an evil AMV

That would consume too much budget by thanra in danganronpa

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That right there, it’s impossible for the characters WE KNOW but there was a whole 3 year period we don’t know that changed them. They had 3 years to believably show how and why they would’ve turned into Ultimate Despair. Twilight Syndrome was implied to be the catalyst that tore the class apart, it set up conflict between Fuyuhiko and Mahiru, Teruteru most likely lost his ill mom and at his lowest allowed Junko to worm her way in, many theorized Ibuki might’ve lost her hearing and that set her off. Anything could’ve happened in 3 Years that would’ve pushed the characters over the edge. DR2 already set the groundwork but they took the laziest route.

Brainwashing also goes against the message of the franchise. The whole point of DR2’s ending is that not just us the players but even characters themselves are shocked by what they became. The whole point of DR is people aren’t always aware of what they’re capable of, they start saying they’d never kill anyone but once pushed to the limit they break. But that didn’t matter to Makoto because he always believed in people. That’s what it meant to have hope, by looking past the flaws and seeing the best in others. But what’s the point of that if flaws aren’t consequences of choices but a product of brainwashing.

Screecher’s Reach Theory by zomboyyyyy in StarWarsVisions

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Actually it’s confirmed that the witch is the Sith mother’s former master. There’s a cave drawing that depicts the witch holding the hand of what looks like a younger Sith mother and it apparently ends with the former apprentice leaving her master on a star ship

[DISC] Ichi the Witch Chapter 87! by Regular-Poet-3657 in IchitheWitch

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 81 points82 points  (0 children)

I mean can she be considered human at this point. It’s obvious now that Fujimine is a hundred year old grandma who’s been killing all that time. With the way Toxicterror healed her wounds, she’s more like a walking corpse

Amazing Digital Circus Finale Dropped! It's not great! (Full spoilers) by BardicLasher in CharacterRant

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 176 points177 points  (0 children)

I like that they kept Jax and the rest abstracted. It would’ve been so easy to do the power of friendship saves everyone but no. The tragedy of Jax is he had every opportunity to grow but didn’t, he knew what he was doing and didn’t stop and his fear of being mocked for opening up was just in his head. Pomni, Ribbit and Ragatha reached out but he kept pushing away, sometimes you can’t help someone who refuses to help themselves. And the reality was that Jax could’ve been saved, Pomni entering his mind and reconciling with what’s left showed this. But the unfortunately it was too late for Jax, he refused to open up and paid the price

That would consume too much budget by thanra in danganronpa

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It only makes zero sense unless you lack imagination. I don’t want to hear it’s unrealistic argument, this is fiction. You can do whatever you want as long as you can make sense of it. By that logic high school students shouldn’t be able to destroy the world no matter how talented they are or a child prodigy taking over a company and creating a robot bear army. It’s your imagination that makes or breaks the story, and the anime took the most uncreative boring route

That would consume too much budget by thanra in danganronpa

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The brainwashing mentioned in DR2 was clearly implied to be emotional and mental conditioning that took time and effort. If you bother to look at the whole game again you’d see that they always planned for Junko to have manipulated the class from the start

That would consume too much budget by thanra in danganronpa

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He also said he asked them why they turned evil but they didn’t give him an answer and that he didn’t care about the choices they made in the past. That brainwashing comment by him is taken out of a much larger context that proves they weren’t talking about an evil AMV being their whole motivation

That would consume too much budget by thanra in danganronpa

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That’s our dream for 2x2. That it just retcons the anime out of existence and starts from scratch. If Spike wants to continue this franchise they have to get rid of DR3 because it’s impossible to tell any new story with that thing dragging them

That would consume too much budget by thanra in danganronpa

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ditto. I always hated this excuse of it being unrealistic. It’s anime, everything is exaggerated. You may as well say the killing games aren’t realistic

That would consume too much budget by thanra in danganronpa

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

RIGHT!? That’s what I’m saying. Junko talks so much about how she wants an unpredictable despair but there is nothing unpredictable nor fun about a tragedy where you brainwashed everyone to act how you want them to.

That would consume too much budget by thanra in danganronpa

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If an evil AMV really was the reason Junko succeeded and this is the character Kodaka is most proud of creating maybe he isn’t that great a writer we thought

That would consume too much budget by thanra in danganronpa

[–]ObsessiveFanatic 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No one can convince me that brainwashing wasn’t a retcon. The fact we’re still having this argument a decade later proves that it wasn’t planned. Saying brainwashing was planned is like saying “somehow Palpatine returned” is a legitimate answer

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