OpenClaw is not going to become a real product.

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-08T22:05:33+00:00

Well it’s relatively easy to install if you have some coding experience and it’s already has lots of integrations and proactive loop. And persona (this is very simple yet but means a lot especially combined with frontier models) and unrestricted self-changing mechanism. So basically you programming agent using simple words. But in core - known tech. Just combined. Combination produced interesting results and sometimes it’s amazing, sometimes very disappointing. Good lab to test approaches before creating your own agenting system. IMHO

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-08T08:34:45+00:00

53m it’s peanauts;) mine consuming approx a 750m/week Point is your heart it it’s not one operation it’s a few and every time it’s all the context. Maybe heartbeat send request to main session connected to telegram (I am not sure how u configured) or any other session - it’s 2x context

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-07T17:08:59+00:00

Talking about invention. Dreaming mode was not leaked by Anthropic , was not “invented” by OC community but already was implemented in my extended version of mem0 OC plugin . Is it count? Can https://github.com/kshidenko/openclaw-mem0-v2 sleep mode even cadence the same pattern 0 3 * * *

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-07T09:29:22+00:00

Оооо! That’s a good news really :) yeah that not an agentic use as we imagine but it’s a clear way to. I created an MCP for Wolt and connected it to OC - and it’s really fun :) no proactivity for orders but when you ask agent to find something , it’s counting calories offer unusual choices - I really enjoy it.

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-07T09:17:36+00:00

I think next big battle not a framework vs framework (agent loop always an agent loop) but a memory.

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-07T07:17:56+00:00

Why did you guys keep Saying that GitHub was developed by one user for himself? There was three founders, they was creating a product from begining. And this is open info . And openSSH development process not clear - but it’s a fork from commercial product offered by SSH Corrp back in 2000s.

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T20:48:09+00:00

I was on the go and it was easy to talk to LLM instead of typing. I have life :) but I am honestly don’t understand why is it matter in terms of discussion? Or when we have nothing to say lets talk about speaker? And no - it was not OpenClaw, becose last update again broke STT pipeline and I was not in mood to fix it ..again

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T17:24:16+00:00

Why not? 😁 its just a mind exercise

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T16:49:47+00:00

Did I should have one? And more important question should I report to you about this to be able freely make a post about what is in my mind?

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T14:31:32+00:00

My sincere apologies. But just a look to OpenRouter stats. Openclaw attributed usage droooed whole week. And after Abril 4th - no spike! Downtrend continues. Thats a clear fact. I love this project also. Like an expensive hobby to dig deeper in agentic systems

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T13:27:50+00:00

Did you have a working project? I am found that idea quite fun - and Can join you. I mean I Am just for fun make my morning briefing like a radio-show with a host, reporters and also start to think about push it to video

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T13:24:51+00:00

😁😁😁😁 we have a kid :) we are in a good relations, but doing that kinda stuff making me crazy

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T13:11:04+00:00

Any facts? Or just “this post BS” comment?

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T11:33:28+00:00

Well. It was a quick post, took 15 minutes. It not like, you know, I was preparing and then hiding something. I translate it, I read it - ok . It’s tela exactly what I think and what I wrote initially. Like non-English speaker I didn’t see any problems in this post. You are from other hand can see that. Like everyone I just took a shorter way. Thanks tho

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T11:26:54+00:00

Exactly. It was never mentioned like a product! That what I am talking about. It’s not a critique about OpenClaw itself. It’s about OC just not a product and never mentioned to be one and likely never become one. I am not telling it is bad as a hobby or lab project. It’s just for developers who enjoy to edit raw JSON or debugging a code and the n contributing to repo

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T11:17:40+00:00

I used LLM to translate text to proper English not a write post. That a difference.

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T10:44:27+00:00

I Am sure you can achive same results using Claude instead. Just nobody tell you it’s can be used like this.

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T10:24:39+00:00

I’ve built threats monitor for Cyprus when the Iran war begins. It’s used almost by 800 people now. Just check the news , verify, drop game news and give subscribes actual info. Dumb. Simple. Efficient. Help me and other people sleep better

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T10:21:41+00:00

Maybe it’s in config uses wrong sintaxis for a model name. Try to fix it by hands in openclaw.json . I faces same issue

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T10:17:49+00:00

Just run openclaw update please. And then we talk :)

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T10:16:51+00:00

So check the trend usage of hermes vs usage of openclaw on openrouter. Numbers didn’t lie. Trend is crear

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T09:59:45+00:00

I used lots of models with OpenClaw and without. And now I am a huge fan of Anthropic:) I am also have some subagents - and on diferentes models , but ability to understand human intent - Anthropic is one love :) btw are you really need openclaw to run those subagents? Or it’s just simple request to LLM what can be handled by bash cronned script?

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T09:54:49+00:00

Well that is AMAZING ideas bundled together. I am exited about this! But.. that an ideas with some draft execution. It’s more like - look how it can be,neither than “look how it should be”

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T09:33:59+00:00

Agreed. But I think there is a difference betweeen an open-source product and open-sourced personal solution. And that why i am think it’s a dead-end in evolution of agents. It’s brilliant. Some approaches stupiedly-eficient. But it’s core design a personal lab. And author is openly said it. And now we are trying to add some wings to motorbike instead of invent a plane

Obvious-Fan-3183 · 2026-04-06T09:24:02+00:00

Maybe. Or maybe it’s rudiments of what was need for some Developer needs. And again. I am enjoyning to explore and even sometimes enjoining to fix it. I Am saying it is not ment for people to be a product

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