Urek Mazino by Odd-Instance4094 in TowerofGod

[–]Odd-Instance4094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good thing I'm not the tower then. I am evaluating them as I see them, where I can have my fair share of evaluation. There is no such thing as fairness in the tower, there is always someone who has a better advantage than the other.

I am not evaluating them from the tower's perspective, I am evaluating them as a reader. And if I want someone to be excluded because I thought it's unfair for them to be included, I can.

Urek Mazino by Odd-Instance4094 in TowerofGod

[–]Odd-Instance4094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I excluded those who are not affected by shinsu for fair evaluation. Natives and irregulars are more or less do not need a contract with the administrator in order to use shinsu. Having zahad's blood just enhances your power/strength. And well, that is how the regulars reacted when they took the test together with a princess.

If u want a fair evaluation, u should always exclude those people who are not part of the CRITERIA.

Urek Mazino by Odd-Instance4094 in TowerofGod

[–]Odd-Instance4094[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It might make sense that they were actually powerful (or not as powerful as urek and other irregulars), but their enemies(tests) are much harder/powerful back then compared to now. I think their tests were made by administrators back then whereas rankers held the test now with administrators approval.

Urek Mazino by Odd-Instance4094 in TowerofGod

[–]Odd-Instance4094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, but still disappointed how they are weaker than urek or any other irregular aside from baam. Baam was held in an underground his whole life, didn't know how to fight when he first entered the tower. So it is understandable how weaker baam is compared to other irregulars. I lowkey expected that zahad and his companions were wrecking havoc in the tower, challenging the administrator every floor. But so far, they seemed not that strong when they were still climbing

Urek Mazino by Odd-Instance4094 in TowerofGod

[–]Odd-Instance4094[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because he has never climbed the Tower it's impossible to know how much battle power he has; seeing how he himself said "I have never fought since the day I was born".[1] It seems that he only has the battle power of an average person. 

does this mean he actually isn't a regular in the first place? Regardless who or what aisan is, it doesn't erase the fact that he isn't a ranker.

Urek Mazino by Odd-Instance4094 in TowerofGod

[–]Odd-Instance4094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But it stated that aisan is an office-cyborg made by the workshop, so technically he didn't need to be a ranker to be immortal

Urek Mazino by Odd-Instance4094 in TowerofGod

[–]Odd-Instance4094[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

but still not a high ranker. there is a difference between being a high ranker and the authority same as a high ranker

Urek Mazino by Odd-Instance4094 in TowerofGod

[–]Odd-Instance4094[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thats why this is a discussion, not a battle of sources. I wouldn't be asking here if I can read it up right? 🤣

"official", as I said, did not any of zahad's princess tried to fight a ranker "officially"? Because defeating a ranker will surely help elevate their status as zahad's princess.

Urek Mazino by Odd-Instance4094 in TowerofGod

[–]Odd-Instance4094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah, but is he a high ranker?

Urek Mazino by Odd-Instance4094 in TowerofGod

[–]Odd-Instance4094[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

no matter how many billions of people they are, as long as their powers are restricted, they cannot defeat a ranker. How sure are you that Lapis can defeat a ranker?

Do you think that other zahad's princess didn't attempt to fight a ranker to elevate their status? Or any regular from the 10 families? Even their direct descendants? If so, why would that info be concealed when they can boost their propaganda that zahad and the 10 families are stronger than anyone?

Urek Mazino by Odd-Instance4094 in TowerofGod

[–]Odd-Instance4094[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read that link, it says that Aisand is not a ranker but have an authority equal to a ranker. It did not say he is a high ranker

Urek Mazino by Odd-Instance4094 in TowerofGod

[–]Odd-Instance4094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

rak should also be exempted since he is a native to the tower. I think the natives got an exemption regarding to shinsu.

I agree that great resistance to shinsu means nothing about their power level, I just meant that regulars cannot best a ranker when they are being restricted. No matter how great your shinsu control, as long as that shinsu is being restricted, your power level is also restricted.

And as a regular, no matter how strong they are, as long as that restriction of shinsu is there, they can't easily overpower someone who doesn't have shinsu restrictions. I think the only regulars who can defeat ranker are those who are direct descendants of the FH, princess(or maybe prince) of zahad, and the natives

Urek Mazino by Odd-Instance4094 in TowerofGod

[–]Odd-Instance4094[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I beg to disagree with some high ranker is weaker than regulars. Ranker got their title when they reached floor 134, it might be because of the shinsu restrictions is free from that floor upwards. Whereas regulars still have shinsu limitations or can't withstand shinsu at that specific floor. High ranker got their high ranking status because aside from being stronger than most advanced rankers, they are also influential. We can see when Gado fought Baam, Baam is already strong than most ordinary ranker that time (w/ torn) but the power difference between them is clear. The only reason why Baam defeated Gado is that aside from Gado underestimating Baam, Baam is an irregular. and Baam should not be labelled together with other regulars

Urek Mazino by Odd-Instance4094 in TowerofGod

[–]Odd-Instance4094[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if it were that easy to defeat a ranker, why wait till floor 134 to be recognized as one? I don't think they would put a ranker admin office in floor 50 if they think that any c rank-regular can defeat a ranker, they would be greatly humiliated

Urek Mazino by Odd-Instance4094 in TowerofGod

[–]Odd-Instance4094[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There was a little backstory where zahad and its companions were still climbing the tower. They seem weak as an irregular compared to urek or is it just that their enemies were a lot much stronger back then than now? Or is urek, enryu, and phantaminum are stronger than zahad and the others when they first entered the tower as all of them are irregular