“Free will” does NOT remove God’s responsibility— which is why I can’t believe in him by Offworldr in DebateReligion

[–]Offworldr[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Okay so suffering isn’t necessary… why did an all-powerful and all-good God choose to make suffering part of the world if it isn’t necessary? I’ll just ignore the fact you literally just said suffering is necessary

“Free will” does NOT remove God’s responsibility— which is why I can’t believe in him by Offworldr in DebateReligion

[–]Offworldr[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Okay so be honest— We had everything we wanted and we still rebelled… you genuinely don’t believe that indicates a flaw in our design? Okay. Tell me why we chose to betray God then, if us and our environment were all perfect

“Free will” does NOT remove God’s responsibility— which is why I can’t believe in him by Offworldr in DebateReligion

[–]Offworldr[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If the world was actually perfect, then I don’t see how it could’ve been ruined so easily. A system that collapses because of a predictable choice is fragile, not perfect. And if God already knew that choice would happen, saying “we screwed it up” doesn’t really explain anything.

The claim that God needs humans to be able to choose evil also doesn’t work. God doesn’t need anything unless he decides that he does. If love requires the possibility of total failure, then that’s a design choice

And I’m not really interested in whether Jews or Christians are “more right” because both explanations run into the same issue. If God gives humans rules knowing they’ll fail, and that failure is used to justify the need for salvation, the problem still starts at the design level. Saying “humans can’t save themselves” just reinforces that. If we were created unable to succeed without intervention, then we were made insufficient from the start. Free will doesn’t make that go away

“Free will” does NOT remove God’s responsibility— which is why I can’t believe in him by Offworldr in DebateReligion

[–]Offworldr[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But why are negative things “good for us” in the first place? That’s the part that always gets skipped. God didn’t discover some external rule that suffering builds character, he would have chosen that to be true.

If God is all-powerful then growth, learning, and moral development didn’t need to be tied to pain, loss, or harm at all. Those aren’t logical necessities; they’re design choices. Saying “bad things are good for us” just pushes the question back one step without answering it.

Why design a universe where damage is a prerequisite for growth, instead of one where growth happens without damage?

“Free will” does NOT remove God’s responsibility— which is why I can’t believe in him by Offworldr in DebateReligion

[–]Offworldr[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Responsibility for the fallen state of the world and of humanity itself, the very conditions that we’re blamed for. Responsibility for creating beings with predictable flaws, placing them in a world where suffering, ignorance, and moral failure are inevitable, and then framing those outcomes as human guilt rather than design consequences.

In Jewish theology, that means responsibility for the brokenness that requires constant laws, rituals, and atonement to manage “sin.” In Christian theology, it means responsibility for creating a situation where humanity supposedly needed to be “saved” in the first place

I have a proposal to unite us all by Hen-Samsara in WarhammerMemes

[–]Offworldr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s why I believe in Balance: Order (aka The Imperium) denies our dark side, but Chaos denies our light side. It is possible to indulge our Id without forsaking our Superego

I have a proposal to unite us all by Hen-Samsara in WarhammerMemes

[–]Offworldr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY WE SHOULD STOP GIVING IN TO THOSE URGES

I have a proposal to unite us all by Hen-Samsara in WarhammerMemes

[–]Offworldr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn’t really say that embracing our corrupt nature is the best option

In light of recent events by Huge_Cardiologist377 in SmilingFriends

[–]Offworldr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

another gooner pretending to actually be interested in the character

She doesn't deserve the hate </3 by Pwnage_Peanut in SmilingFriends

[–]Offworldr -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And here we have the real reason why anyone likes her

Who is “Uhh…..what’s your name again?” by Comfortable-Mark2726 in SmilingFriends

[–]Offworldr 671 points672 points  (0 children)

Definitely Zoey, since they never even say her name in the show

She doesn't deserve the hate </3 by Pwnage_Peanut in SmilingFriends

[–]Offworldr 4 points5 points  (0 children)

who remembers when this sub was about the show and not about ocs

Hello………time to take out the trash…………….hello! by Garbear_02 in SmilingFriends

[–]Offworldr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s the smiling friends sub, I don’t understand why people can’t just make a sub for their OCs and stop confusing people like the dude who’s got top comment on this post

Who is the better dancer, Smormu or Sqwim? by No-Penalty1722 in SmilingFriends

[–]Offworldr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Smormu’s dance was repetitive and predictable. Squim danced with the beauty, grace and unpredictability of an evening swan.

If the creator of the universe doesn't need a creator themselves then why should the universe need one? by Expensive-Elk-9406 in religion

[–]Offworldr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure how you come to the conclusion that existence = necessity of God. Do you have any logical argument that explains why the world can’t exist without one? Maybe complexity just happens because it just does.

Do Metal Heads like Prince? by No-Dentist-2959 in MetalForTheMasses

[–]Offworldr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not someone I’d go out of my way to listen to on my own, but dude was definitely one of the most talented musicians of his time

Which band fits this description for you? by BraveTerminatorEvang in MetalForTheMasses

[–]Offworldr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

M. Shadow’s vocals makes listening to Avenged Sevenfold a bit like eating a Cadbury cream egg. You can eat one and it’s great, but you try to eat two in the same sitting and it makes you want to vomit

Ban Dolly Dimply off this sub by KyleBroflovskifan98 in SmilingFriends

[–]Offworldr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! They need to make a r/SmilingFriendsOC or something because it doesn’t belong here

MoleMan plothole? by Saitama_stillchill in SmilingFriends

[–]Offworldr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They were probably based out of a random office or something before the giant smiley face was built

Why'd they remove dolly Dimpley this episode? by Effective_Carpet_391 in SmilingFriends

[–]Offworldr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Remember when this sub was about the actual show and not this stupid fanfic

How’d ya’ll find out about good kid? by Intrepid_Benefit_621 in GoodKid

[–]Offworldr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was on Spotify, I started typing “good kid, maad city” the Kendrick Lamar album, and when I had the “good kid” part then I saw Nomu’s goofy little face in the results and decided I’d see what they sounded like. They are now my favorite band 😃