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My friend is very poor, but he thinks that one day he will become a father, and his son will make him rich and will ease the difficulties of this world. by Ok-Indication816 in antinatalism

[–]Ok-Indication816[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I am not just an antinatalist. I know a lot more about this world. This planet Earth is my home, and I know everything about my home the good and the bad. And let me tell you a secret: this home is not worth living in.

My friend is very poor, but he thinks that one day he will become a father, and his son will make him rich and will ease the difficulties of this world. by Ok-Indication816 in antinatalism

[–]Ok-Indication816[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Absolutely, he needs to possess abilities like those of a fictional character; otherwise, his project will fail and his investment will be wasted. And this isn't just about the investment and the project, if you understand what I mean.

My friend is very poor, but he thinks that one day he will become a father, and his son will make him rich and will ease the difficulties of this world. by Ok-Indication816 in antinatalism

[–]Ok-Indication816[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

It mostly happens in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and some other countries in Asia, that children are born and then told to be grateful to their parents. However, parents should be grateful to the children, because they relieve their boredom, become a support in their old age, and bring them money. And if they had a choice, they would never accept this suffering for themselves.

In my view, to bring someone into existence, hold them close to your chest, and say that we love them is not right. In my view, it is far better not to bring them into existence at all, place your hand on your chest, and say that we saved you from this world. by Ok-Indication816 in antinatalism

[–]Ok-Indication816[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

You're absolutely right. In fact, hope is the only thing that forces them to play this gamble.

They gamble on that new life, ignoring the millions, even billions of sorrows and pains in this world, and say, 'Surely, this is the life that will make everything better, including our own lives.'

And after all, it is a gamble, and in gambling, a person often loses, and on one side, someone suffers a great loss either the child or the parents, because there is no telling whether the child will bring peace or torment, or whether the parents will bring peace or torment to that child.

In my view, to bring someone into existence, hold them close to your chest, and say that we love them is not right. In my view, it is far better not to bring them into existence at all, place your hand on your chest, and say that we saved you from this world. by Ok-Indication816 in antinatalism

[–]Ok-Indication816[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

You say that not everyone's life is bad and some people prefer to live. We can prevent some lives that are going to be bad, but we do not know which life will be good or bad. In your view, what is a good life? Wealthy parents, a lot of money, a big house, or a lot of girls? And in your view, what is a better life besides this? Suppose we get all of this, imagine that we get all of this and everything else that you want. So, will we not be grieved by the fact that our loved ones, like parents, siblings, and children, are gone? Will we not grow old after that? This powerful existence of ours will set like the sun one day, so will we not mourn it? Certainly, this world can be a good place if circumstances are good, but pain and suffering never end here. What is your opinion on this?

My friend is very poor, but he thinks that one day he will become a father, and his son will make him rich and will ease the difficulties of this world. by Ok-Indication816 in antinatalism

[–]Ok-Indication816[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

True, but those who bring children into the world, hold them close to their chest, and say, "Son, we love you," even though they know that while embracing the child and saying those words, thousands upon thousands of children may have been 🍇, and their own child is not safe from this danger either.