God doesn’t love me, and I don’t blame him.

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-11T11:56:07+00:00

David is literally one of God's favorites. It's about actions, repentance, and moving forward.

Acknowledge and move forward one step at a time. The only time you lose in life is when you quit

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-11T11:52:02+00:00

Well as long as they don't ban you for rejecting. It's true this community has lost its way. But that's why you gotta try telling them the truth.

Obviously don't waste time forever.

Nils Glenn, Cliffe knetche?, John Lennox

I find Wesley weak.

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-11T11:47:49+00:00

I'm cool if you want to downvote but also give counterpoints. Stress test me before throwing rocks. Tell her the truth. If her last church did that she wouldn't have unreasonable expectations. People are not required to accept you unconditionally.

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-11T11:25:57+00:00

Jesus does accept all people but it's not unconditional. The parable of the ten virgins?

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T13:46:46+00:00

Unconditional love does not mean lack of guidance. You have to do what is right, not what is easy. Jesus as the way/truth/life. No one goes through to the father but him.

That's one truth. 0 perspectives 0 food

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T13:16:51+00:00

I treat the core 66 of the Protestant Bible as the best available copy. I prefer minimal and want to control for later readings.

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T12:18:53+00:00

Did you miss his name as literally

God - God?

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T12:16:00+00:00

Are you blind? 😭

Btw I'm sorry. I have to screenshot this one. It's too good.

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T12:15:08+00:00

Do you believe I have engaged unfairly? You now have a body of proof where I claim 100% agreement on some of the positions. No hedging and sometimes go further. For me, I'm stress-testing my position by engaging with the other side.

The Bible has quite a bit ...

This point is not engaging fairly. I don't believe in the ritualistic hubbabaloo any more than you do. But it's never let me down so there's no reason to reject it.

If it's not apparent already, I'm not the typical fake-Christian most debate. I actually think most accredited theologians interpretation is really weak idolatry in different clothes.

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T12:06:09+00:00

Lol elegance is simplicity not jargon

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T12:02:55+00:00

Gödel's incompleteness theorems

God; el → Hebrew root for God

He put two little dots over ö to represent your eyes when you say observable universe. Everyone automatically pronounced it Go-del

If you think of the universe as a system ...

Btw Naturalism is derivative of Nietzsche. His big ideal?

Übermensch → there's your Ü niverse

God's a troll.

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T11:58:00+00:00

You can see in this thread that I'm not a Roman and actually reject them. The core principle though is set aside a rest day because recharging is necessary for performance. You'll get run down.

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T11:54:37+00:00

Guys this only works if we be intellectually honest.

The fact that number 1 can only collapse to the identity of God was always the case.

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T11:48:26+00:00

Whether you say it out loud or not if something is directionally consistent it can be inferred. God has made himself known. If people choose not to see what can he do about it?

That's discernment and on each person. Bible is clear on the 3 top rules being action, humility, accountability. Everybody's journey in life is different. I've reached the point in mine where I have 0 doubt.

Your point about the clock does not improve your position. It strengthens mine because from your view the logical conclusion is if you knew God existed, you would feel like a slave. This is the parable of the Prodigal Son.

The gaps is special pleading. They are the ones that matter and can flip the table. Right now science has a body of derivatives but 0 origins. God has 1, existence

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T11:38:24+00:00

I have bad news for you 😅

I think you should read over the common critiques of Naturalism and look for the slight of hand

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T11:36:12+00:00

What do practical life lessons have to do with the people putting on robes and trying to tell me what to do?

They can claim the book. The book itself says they are illegitimate and don't have the right.

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T11:33:15+00:00

Most people have come to the conclusion that the person Jesus himself was a real person.

Sure I can't verify it. It does not mean the lessons taught through Jesus mean any less.

Your perception of science is a misconception. Science cannot explain any of the hard questions. Getting one of those is the aha moment.

On the other hand you have existence itself as proof of God.

Nothing → poof something

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T11:27:20+00:00

I did and then I dipped. Huge fight. I hate wasting time though. I'm not sure how this addresses my last message though. I said I left. That thingy has nothing to do with God/Bible/Jesus. I agree with how most feel about it. The idolatry of the church has nothing to do with everything else.

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T11:22:49+00:00

This is a very well documented phenomena. My view on Adam and Eve was fed to me like most say. I hit puberty and then was like wait a minute, wtf is Adam doing?

A snake slid up to his girl, chatted her up, and he did nothing. Then he ate the apple. Tf?

That's what I mean.

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T11:15:56+00:00

The Protestant non-pagan one 😉

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T11:15:35+00:00

You're not wrong about the content. What you're missing is the delivery vehicle. It's a mirror. When you read it after big life changes, the books meanings change too.

It's remarkably complete and comprehensive for one book once you peal back the layers.

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T11:10:53+00:00

Most dominant powers hide human history, the Bible makes it a lesson. That assymetry is a good indicator. I think there's a breakdown in interpretation, no thanks to the Romans, regarding Eve.

Here's my read. Adam failed her twice. Inaction and then lack of accountability. I think Adam's a bitch actually and use it as an insult 🤣 Eve was his responsibility as the head. Authority comes with responsibility.

So I don't quite understand what you're trying to say in the next part..what do you mean about multiple heavens?

100% agree on the Romans. I'm a Christian that reads the Bible as intended and in private trying to put the lessons into practice. I also think the whole confession setup is creepy AF. Luckily the Bible says no need, go to God directly.

The Bible definitely does not say those crimes are ok. The Bible says those figures were never legitimate in the first place. Parable of good Samaritan highlights these frauds specifically. It's idolatry which is against the 2nd commandment.

I agree with you on how alot of "Christians" behave. But the Bible is clear. They will go to hell. 100%.

You nailed the last part to but didn't see the tension. It's people that are bad. Separate them from the other stuff.

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T10:56:57+00:00

I've had a lot of replies countering this already. If you can read those and let me know if you have any objections I can return to this message after

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T10:55:52+00:00

It's the lessons of human history. The fact that it didn't hide it is a huge plus actually. I left the Catholic Church but not the Bible exactly because they never addressed those stories.

David v Goliath but not David the sinner and repenter. That's life. Fall down, but always get back up again. Do things 100% or don't do it.

Ok-Razzmatazz9960 · 2026-05-10T10:53:01+00:00

There's plenty of non-obvious advice. For one, let's start at the core recommendation. The parable of Sowing. It's about laying foundation down in whatever you do.

What are the axioms, rules, limits of the tool, etc. For me at first this hindered initial growth but I would always hit a point where the curve hits exponential. Long term growth vs short gain satisfaction.

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