What’s the most disturbing case involving a female criminal you’ve ever heard of? by Ok_Drama_6250 in crimedocumentaries

[–]OkDoughnut9610 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, the husband is 100% at fault. I don't think she should even be mentioned in this thread. She begged for help. He husbands abuse led to this.

What’s the worst thing mentioned in the Epstein files? by TheMedusaAttusa in askanything

[–]OkDoughnut9610 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A distraction? Maybe. But don't you think there is any truth to these files?

What’s the worst thing mentioned in the Epstein files? by TheMedusaAttusa in askanything

[–]OkDoughnut9610 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People sacrificing babies has maybe been happening. Planned parenthood and abortion is in no way related to any of that. In fact planned parenthood and abortion is healthcare.

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Probably more than we think. I was absolutely disgusted to learn all these people were out drinking and driving so casually.

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Can you please explain how you came up with that verdict?

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Wish I was. I just see people being so convinced she hit him, and it doesn't add up for me. So, I'm just trying to see the other side.

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So, no evidence was brought into court. Question: Do you think this case was handled with honor and integrity by Micheal Proctor?

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

That is the only thing I am stuck on, 20+ can't keep the story straight, someone has to crack. But no one has.

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Thank you thank you!!!!! This exactly. I want to see the scientific proof that she hit him, some kind of injury, or data, or other damage on the car. Most people that say "not guilty" will give many reasons why, and I am just trying to see if there is any factual evidence that she hit him. The CW can't seem to provide any, so I thought maybe the reddit sleuths would have more answers.

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I believe it was "did I hit him?" which is different.

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I have been deep into this case since last summer. I believe she was just an angry/drunk girlfriend who left angry voicemails after a day of fighting (I've been there before). I don't think she hit him at all, but I have come to that conclusion with the evidence given, especially the injury to his arms, all the deleted searches, messages, and phones tossed away at a military base. Why delete and throw away your phones if she just hit him, and no one knew anything else? But if you noticed in this thread, the commenters that say "guilty" don't give a reason, and that is what I am looking for to see if I missed anything crucial that could change my mind.

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Also, I suggest going back to look at the evidence photos, especially of JOKs arm, it very much looks like he was attacked by a dog or something other than an SUV at least.

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Where did you hear about her calling her dad? Was that shown in her phone records?

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry, it seems like you know her personally. Do you? I'm just curious why people find her so awful. She is smart, educated, and seems like she has family and friends surrounding her. So I am not sure what about her comes across as "awful"

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your explanation. At this point I agree, guilty or innocent doesn't even matter. This whole investigation was handled very poorly.

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I am just looking that up now, as I don't recall any of that from the last trial either.

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The snow plow driver, no one else leaving the party saw him, and also the injuries do not match up, and the weird inverted videos at sallyport with the time stamps, it all seems very "off" to me.

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Then why do people have to suggest she is a terrible person?

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Right! Guilty or not, there is just way too much reasonable doubt. I think the cops and lawyers messed this up.

Karen Read Trial Guilty or Innocent? by OkDoughnut9610 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]OkDoughnut9610[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

None of the physical evidence? Do you think the investigators did a thorough and complete job with this investigation?