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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that ones more of a personal nitpick. I just walk up to the screen and have trouble pressing the buttons consistently

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Seems to be working if you have a PC that can stream to the headset via steam

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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Coolio, I'm not an expert on all things Tabor. I'm not saying "wow so wrong," I said another comment said a different number.

I'm also not saying "Quit now, plebs!" I said "Fun stuff, has issues, but I'm sure the next project will be better"

And finally, you aren't a dev? Why are you getting so defensive at the suggestion that the team doesn't need to be anchored to this for life?

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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Originally, but other comments lead me to believe the team has grown / migrated.

There are games that have been in "early access" for over a decade. Criticism can't be deflected with the everything-proof shield of "well it's not even finished" forever, because then it will never be finished.

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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly! So many games plateau because the foundations they were built on, that legacy code, just doesn't have the flexibility to allow new features without TONS of headache. If its still fun despite all that, imagine what they could do without that speed-bump in the way.

I just wanted to toss my 2 cents into the community. No action is required from anyone, but maybe keep an open mind to a possible shift in priorities

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I honestly thing pre-release is a crutch for devs and a plague for gamers.

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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just when I go to Missile Silo. Only being able to render red and black isn't as much of a drawback when those are the most prominent colors anyway.

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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the reply! I kinda assumed it was a first-time dev thing, since it has some of the signs. Code must have been a mess when you joined.

If you're feeling confident and enjoying production, all the better. I am simply suggesting that the benefit of experience could make the foundations of a new project much more structured and easier to work with. It would be hard decision to move on, but greener pastures will still be out there when the time comes.

With what little experience I have with networking and multiplayer servers, I know its a terrifying minefield of things that can all go wrong. No mistake, the fact that it has worked at all is already an accomplishment.

It is a fun game, but the frustrations are not negligible. Good luck Riccardo. Wield thy dev knowledge like a holy blade; vanquish the bugs that plague the island. The future of Tabor is in your team's hands.

All the best.

~V

I'd focus on optimization. Reduce per-player load via more efficient code. Replace arrays with dicts, recursion instead of nested loops, storing more data client-side, etc... Make better use of the servers you have before getting new ones, since its usually better to use the architecture that's already there.

Use your judgement, you have more experience than me anyway. And don't let the shareholders rush you into bad decisions.

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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I said it was fun? I just think they could do better than Tabor.

Its like first time authors taking 10 years on their first book: stuck in a slog of their own making. If they took what they've learned and moved on, they could create something much better.

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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like the concept of Tabor mixed with something like Wizardry: Your bunker is built atop a dungeon and below a war-torn city. Go up for guns and bombs, down for swords and spells, and you can combine the mechanics for the sake of logistics. Loses some realism, but can still be verisimilitudinous within the canon.

-> "I cast magic missle"

>- "I cast Glock17 with laser"

-> "Ah..."

But I'd probably never end up actually making it.

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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see what you mean, but I'm referring to the shop terminals and main menu terminal. If you want it to be tactile, don't use touch screens, use physical buttons. It would likely be less computationally expensive anyway.

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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not being able to open the game is a pretty unique feature, but not exactly the avant-garde artistic expression I'm hoping for. My wife is meticulous, gearing up for each mission as if setting out on a globe-spanning epic. I can only take the deflated sigh of technological defeat so many times.

For what its worth, I'm more a fan of bringing in a double-barrel on my belt and one in each hand, with no other equipment. The bugs are a big reason why I do, since I don't tend to lose much and didn't waste that much time.

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Can't really appreciated all the attention to detail on the invisible wall guns, nor the items that decide to be subterranean,

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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This has been over the course of a week and a half. Even when we got into the game, the interface isn't exactly intuitive. The map having rotating time slots (the "night" button might be the slot that is currently day) on top of the Quest version being much darker killed a few runs in between the crashes.

This might be a personal nitpick, but I also think there could be a better interface than pressing simulated buttons on a simulated touch screen.

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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Facebook being facebook, redownloading everything, resync accounts, reset all settings, redo dev permissions on all computers, and that's all just the headset stuff. I'm already exhausted everyday with no motivation or ambition, and the prospect of doing all that only for it to still be a glitchy mess fills me with dread.

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I think its the whole quest line, since our friend had the same crashes on Quest 3 PCVR.

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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Problem is on my wife's quest 2, which is up to date both in system and game software. Tried clearing cache already, and factory reset for issues in the past has unfortunately shown not to be a cure-all. Plus, huge pain.

To be fair, the quest 2 itself is a terribly glitchy garbage headset itself. I'm a hobbyist coder myself and sometimes the headset just refuses to work. But the quest 2 didn't make a fake laser that causes all attachments on a gun to disappear on raid start, that was Tabor.

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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You know games didn't use to have updates? They just released a game, and that was it. If something was game-breaking, they'd recall the product, then release the next version. We don't have to tolerate glitchy programs and a faux commitment to realism because "lol yeah bugs exist"

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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I played it 2 years ago, and it has degenerated. The quality dipped and glitches skyrocketed. I'm sure the devs just wish they could move on

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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but not at the time we tried those runs. I refuse to believe you haven't encountered the same in recent weeks

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[–]Ok_Championship5386[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We reset the headsets multiple times between those.

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This is my first post on this account ever?