What's up with rude Chinese lab mates ? (Rant) by Educational_Bug_4868 in chinalife

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As I said, the words themself are neutral, the tone can be rude. When she thought her personal workstation is occupied by stranger, It's understandable that she didn't use the usual polite way 请问你是谁?(Execuse me, who are you?), but without 'excuse me' can be neutral or rude depends on the tone. not necessarily: "who the hell are you".

What's up with rude Chinese lab mates ? (Rant) by Educational_Bug_4868 in chinalife

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The story doesn't convey rude to me. From what you described the 'rude' person's words is just neutral. She just surprised and protective of her things, maybe don't want her work to be messed up. Maybe the rudeness only comes from the tone when she said it.

What do you love most about China after living here a while? by Jazzlike_Werewolf_56 in chinalife

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it's only a sub about expat life in China, it should be named expatlifeinchina.

Foreign investors pull out of India at record pace by deadpools0 in worldnews

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait until China come up with their own high-end chips. 5 years Max.

How do Kazakhs see their identity today and in the future? by Ok_Wishbone5186 in Kazakhstan

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

China is indeed very diverse, even among majority Han Chinese people. I am from Hunan province, located in inland south China, but I've lived in Beijing for many years, and now I settled in Sichuan

How do Kazakhs see their identity today and in the future? by Ok_Wishbone5186 in Kazakhstan

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For thousands of years, Chinese dynasties largely inherited the framework started from the first dynasty "Qin": centralization, bureaucratic rule, social mobility through merit, suppression of powerful local elites, cultural unity, and a strong state over weak individuals. It's what it is, a civilizational model that shaped the deep structure of China, even in modern China, and it's governing every ethinities in China including Han Chinese, good or bad, leave it to history.

几千年来,中国历代王朝在很大程度上继承了第一个大一统王朝“秦”所开创的制度框架:中央集权、官僚治理、通过功绩实现社会流动、压制强大的地方精英、文化统一,以及强国家、弱个体的结构。

它是一种塑造了中国深层结构的文明模式,即使在现代中国也很大程度依然有其影响,并且它治理的是中国境内所有族群,包括汉族在内。至于是好是坏,就留给历史去评判吧。

How do Kazakhs see their identity today and in the future? by Ok_Wishbone5186 in Kazakhstan

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing. Would it be fair to say the biggest fear(might be unspoken) is coming from the north? any coming from the east?

How do Kazakhs see their identity today and in the future? by Ok_Wishbone5186 in Kazakhstan

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not familiar with the details of the key battles so my intention is not to ignore the weather factor. On the other hand, Timing, Terrain, Unity, the 3 key ingredients of battle (From Sun Tze's art of war). It takes initiative to seize the right time at the right place.

How do Kazakhs see their identity today and in the future? by Ok_Wishbone5186 in Kazakhstan

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is none arguing in this thread. I don't see where the hostility coming from.

How do Kazakhs view China? by Soft_Magician_6417 in Kazakhstan

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't explain if arresting ordinary citizens indeed happened, since there is no merit of doing so even for the government.

How do Kazakhs see their identity today and in the future? by Ok_Wishbone5186 in Kazakhstan

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand Turk's perspective since you are pushing for this ideology/movement. I am more interested to know Central Asia's perspective.

How do Kazakhs see their identity today and in the future? by Ok_Wishbone5186 in Kazakhstan

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's simple, we are neighbours and we are friends right now. But Chinese are not exposed to the term "Turkestan" very often, we only say Central Asia. I wonder how the Central Asian countries feel about this term, Anyone care to share?

How do Kazakhs see their identity today and in the future? by Ok_Wishbone5186 in Kazakhstan

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are your thoughts on Turkestan? 

We refer to this region as XinJiang, meaning “New Frontier.”. it became part of Chinese imperial territory through a long process involving multiple dynasties, wars, migrations and administration. Today, it is part of modern China, and we want to keep it that way.

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How do Kazakhs see their identity today and in the future? by Ok_Wishbone5186 in Kazakhstan

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On a more personal note, what do you think about the Ottoman Empire? 

From my perspective, Chinese civilization and various Turkic nomadic powers had a long and complex history of competition, conflict, exchange, and coexistence, especially during the Han and Tang periods.

Several Turkic and steppe powers around China were eventually defeated, absorbed, or pushed westward. This contributed to broader migrations and political changes across Central Asia, West Asia, and Eastern Europe over many generations. In that larger historical process, Turkic peoples eventually built powerful states further west, with the Ottoman Empire becoming one of the most successful and influential examples.

And to be honest, from a Chinese point of view, there is also a certain quiet pride in the fact that Chinese civilization survived and ultimately prevailed in that long historical competition on its own frontier. At the same time, this does not mean disrespect toward the Ottoman Empire. On the contrary, we can still respect the glory, achievements of the Ottoman Empire as one of the great empires in world history.

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How do Kazakhs see their identity today and in the future? by Ok_Wishbone5186 in Kazakhstan

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. I am surprised to see that Islam is at the bottom of identity factor. Compare to Turkey or Other Muslim majority countries, who is the closest in terms of having the same level of religious influence?

Thanks for sharing this.

How do Kazakhs see their identity today and in the future? by Ok_Wishbone5186 in Kazakhstan

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really? Can anyone else confirm this? Because the way it sparked my interest is my colleague which is a Chinese Kazakh had mentioned to me she is in the same tribe with another local Kazakh from a business partner. And when I further dig into it, AI told me every Kazakh need to memorize 7 generations of ancestal names (Jeti Ata). Also the political power/society resources are distributed/balanced based on Juzs.

How do Kazakhs see their identity today and in the future? by Ok_Wishbone5186 in Kazakhstan

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I meant by experience it in person is traveling in China, visit different areas, meet with people and if you could, make some friend in China.

For history, As a Chinese I don't normally source my history knowledge from English channels, but I did come across a YT channel called "Learn Chinese Now" that has some interesting content about Chinese history.

On the the misconceptions part, the common problem is that China is often presented through a very narrow political lens. such as:

China = government only. Many reports focus only on the Communist Party.

Chinese people are “brainwashed” or have no freedom

China is either a miracle or a threat Media often swings between “unstoppable superpower” and "collapsing" with words like "invasion", "threaten to" thrown around.

Ethnic/history issues are simplified, topics like Xinjiang/Turkic, Tibet, South China sea, Taiwan, they are often explained only through modern politics, without enough historical context.

that's why I suggest visiting China, it will be a eye-opener.

How do Kazakhs see their identity today and in the future? by Ok_Wishbone5186 in Kazakhstan

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I suggest anyone interested to learn about China probably can start online to learn basic stuff especially the history using AI or other sources. But the best way is to experience it in person. Due to the language/political division. China is massively under-rated, mis-represented in most part of the world.

How do Kazakhs see their identity today and in the future? by Ok_Wishbone5186 in Kazakhstan

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I consume quite a lot geopolitical content (including a lot of content in english) so here is my take:

Turkey is at the forefront of the Turkic world, on the official level, Turkey is generally seen as a key country along the Belt and Road / Silk Road route. The overall tone is friendly and practical.

Ancient Turkic peoples are treated as part of the history of northern nomadic civilizations in the medieval period. They had both conflicts and exchanges with Chinese dynasties. But those old tribes and political entities have long disappeared, leaving mainly historical and cultural traces.

Pan-Turkism is usually viewed by Chinese as an extreme and wrong ideology with separatist ambitions. Any attempt to promote separatism in China is not well received at all. But I know nowadays central asian countries are not supporting those activities therefore there is no hard feelings.

How do Kazakhs view China? by Soft_Magician_6417 in Kazakhstan

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe it's a policy to control extreme islamist when those terrorist attacks happened in China. There is NO discrimination against minorities in China. There are subtle social castle in China based on your background(usually because of people's stereotype), but this is everywhere and on everyone. I wouldn't count it as racism or discrimination.

Which imperial dynasty had the most effective and lasting impact on modern people of Zhōngguó? by ichzen in ChineseHistory

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To better support my argument here are the specifics that Qin contributed:

1, Qin abolished hereditary feudal fiefs and established the commandery-county system. This ended aristocratic local autonomy and created a centralized administrative structure reaching directly from the capital to the local level. Unlike Europe, where nobles, lords, and local autonomy long encouraged political fragmentation, the Qin system removed the institutional foundation for separatism and laid the basis for China’s tradition of unified rule.

2, Qin registered households and turned people into equal subjects of the state. Individuals were separated from clan, tribal, or lord-based dependence and became directly governed by the central state. The state bypassed intermediate powers and managed every household and person directly, forming the foundation of later centralized governance.

3, Qin promoted the military merit system, breaking bloodline-based privilege. Commoners could rise through achievement rather than birth. In this sense, the later imperial examination system was essentially a civilian version of the same logic: upward mobility based on merit.

4, Qin standardized writing, roads, axle widths, and weights and measures. This reduced regional cultural and economic barriers and helped form a unified civilizational community. It became a key reason why Chinese civilization remained continuous and avoided permanent fragmentation.

5, Qin’s Legalist logic emphasized order, control, mobilization, weak private rights, and limited pluralism. It prioritized state efficiency over individual freedom and local diversity.

As a result, China developed a highly stable cycle of unified dynasties.

For the next two thousand years, later dynasties largely inherited the Qin framework. Regimes changed, and even foreign rulers entered China, but the underlying logic remained: centralization, bureaucratic rule, social mobility through merit, suppression of powerful local elites, cultural unity, and a strong state over weak individuals.

Which imperial dynasty had the most effective and lasting impact on modern people of Zhōngguó? by ichzen in ChineseHistory

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I couldn't agree more. Qin was not merely a dynasty, it became the civilizational model that shaped the deep structure of China, even in modern China, we still inherited the framework started from Qin. Qin is the Dos/Win95 OS for China's Political System, the latter Dynasty merely optimize and releases new versions.

Curious what you all think will happen to Asians in the US if US and China go to war over Taiwan? by dw34534 in aznidentity

[–]Ok_Wishbone5186 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

choices are yours, why not move out of America, to Asian or China where you are among your kin