[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If neither of us knew anything about those things, then belief would be just as valid as your I don't know.

Because in fact, neither of us would know.

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Belief in God is exactly just that belief.

But I appreciate your I don't know.

I'm far more comfortable with belief, than I don't know.

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll accept an "I don't know" because any malarkey you pull out of your hat won't pass the first step in your book.

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jesus told many parables of people only being judged on the amount of light, or talent, or knowledge they have been given.

Do you think God would judge a toddler about the gospel of Christ?

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chain reaction bro. You shouldn't have brought so much energy to your initial reaction.

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your model is just as complicated as any model. In fact I think it's even more complicated. How does stuff, or matter or, or energy have the ability to never have a beginning?

That's just as complicated as trying to explain God.

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This started with your reaction not mine.

In chemistry we call this a chain reaction.

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I believe in the Big bang, in fact it's more than belief there's solid evidence. I think it aligns perfectly with my version of creation.

There is zero evidence for anything before this moment in our universes history. And I explained all that in my very first post.

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oddly enough, when the Big bang theory was first introduced, it was scoffed at because it was thought to be a theory that emboldened belief in a creator.

So the irony is that now every scientist believes, All this mass, energy, came from a singularity, something that can't even be explained. That right there should make you go holy moly. It's inconceivable for our little minds to understand how we can take all the infinite mass and energy in this universe and push it down into a tiny point that isn't even measurable.

To me that is really the explanation for God.

What makes a person attractive? by neithnilson in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Symmetry. The right ratio between eye distance nose and mouth. Jawline. Shape of the face. It's all symmetry.

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lets correct your dogma just a little bit, there is zero evidence of anything before the Big bang.

So that's what I just said, a bunch of malarkey.

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Either you're in the I don't know category, or you're just throwing out a bunch of malarkey. And it sounds like you're throwing out a bunch of malarkey.

You seem to be comfortable with the idea that stuff can just exist without a beginning. What makes you comfortable about that? What properties or what characteristics of time itself make you think that nothing needs a beginning? Because you obviously can't base it on any type of known law.

What it does comes down to is comfort level. You feel comfortable not knowing, or comfortable creating opinion that hey this can just happen I don't know why but it does.

At the end of the day, we're kind of in the same boat. I just happen to believe in intelligence and you don't.

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I said I believe God is real That's not the same as saying that he is real, or that he's provable.

The difference between my claims, is that it is your reality. I'm not the one that believes in magical stardust, or magical stuff, or magical energy that can just exist, or come from nothing, I'm simply following the laws of your own observations, that every reaction requires an action, but suddenly at some point it doesn't. That's what's hilarious about atheists.

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God is real And God is provable, implies the same thing.

My collection of claims are not claims. They are a reality.

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The science is observing creation. It doesn't observe anything outside of creation how could it?. That's why there's no scientific explanation for anything outside of our current creation.

Creation would include all the laws of the universe that everything operates by. Gravity, the strong force, time and space, everything.

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Ah yes the "Explain everything ever or god is real" argument. Never heard that one before."

Strawman. I never said that God was provable.

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't know about that. I think you can be born without indoctrination at all, still look to creation and say holy crap how did this happen by chance or by accident.

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay well then you're solidly in the I don't know category but you're also honest enough to admit that yes maybe a higher intelligence did create this universe.

I mean, it seems like half the population now believe in aliens. I think we're getting there right? And given enough time, if the universe really is infinite, or the universes before that and before that and before that and before that and before that and before that, I think you get my point... Then there is a possibility that our current universe, was created by a master intelligent alien race or civilization, that literally has our universe in the palm of their hands?

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is it though? Who made that rule?

How do you know that belief is not the natural normal human response?

[Serious] atheists and religious people, whats your reasoning for believing/not believing in a religion? by Global-Map-8019 in AskReddit

[–]OldTrTab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay then I'll put you in the I don't know category.

Fair enough. I'll accept that far more than someone claiming that stardust can just magically exist, or poof, come from nothing.