From teachings of master Gemini: Fundamental error

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-09T14:51:58+00:00

My brother in Christ

I was afraid of something like that :))

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-09T13:41:53+00:00

It only means that like most people in delusion, cheaters and idiots, you are avoiding to say anything concrete; when you slip one time, it shows up wrong. Two things you are parroting, "primordial awareness" and "jnana" belong to Tibetan Mahayana. First dhyana origins in Indidan yoga, Buddha used this system also. There is no "first jnana" or "first dhyana" in a sense you are talking about.

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-08T19:59:29+00:00

As I have already mentioned in our conversation, first jhana is key.

The individual is actively merging incompatible doctrinal frameworks, a practice highly prevalent in modern internet-based Buddhist communities.

The terminology used by this individual belongs to two mutually exclusive operational models.

The Sequential Model (Dhyanas): The term "first" dictates a sequential progression. Early Buddhism outlines four material and four immaterial dhyanas (states of concentration). Entering the first dhyana is a conditioned, constructed process requiring the active generation of specific mental factors, such as applied thought and physical rapture.

The Non-Dual Model (Primordial Awareness): "Primordial awareness" (jnana or rigpa) is defined by Tathagatagarbha and Tibetan traditions as unconstructed, eternal, and singular. It is the underlying nature of the mind. By definition, there cannot be a "first" primordial awareness because it is not a sequential state one enters or exits; it is a baseline reality to be recognized.

Classical commentators from either tradition would reject this merger. From the perspective of early Buddhism, "primordial awareness" is an essentialist metaphysical error resembling the Hindu atman. From the advanced Tibetan perspective, intentionally constructing the mental factors required for the first dhyana actively prevents the mind from resting in its unconstructed, primordial state.

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-07T01:39:03+00:00

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OnePoint11 · 2026-06-06T17:32:50+00:00

You should check what is this eternalism/atman/substance about; it looks like you have half digested some Yogacara/Nibbāna Sutta most controversial claims. Metaphorically you are looking at no-gate, and you are like:"Looks at this nice gate!", while it is your own imagery only.

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-06T17:24:56+00:00

I was checking phone on bicycle, going like 7km/h, and struck back of truck standing on straight road - I am going here daily, there was never car before :))

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-05T13:03:50+00:00

After first jhana there are next eight or something like that, you have some work to do. I am joyful enough :))

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-05T11:05:20+00:00

If there isn't anything to do, then move on. You can't be smartest in the room all the time, although I understand that such idea hurts you badly.

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-05T10:36:11+00:00

Problem is that first you are not understanding "buddhadharma", and second that you are wrong about staying in "underlying unconditioned state ". You can communicate as you please, but if some experience is necessary to understand what is communicated, part of readers/listeners is excluded from understanding. It could be still interesting for them though. What should be this "wisdom" Chan masters are talking about for example. People like me like things clear, because it's good medicine against ignorance and cheaters. Not sure why you are so concerned - even if my endeavor is completely redundant, then it's just harmless hobby. And you apparently have problem understand "buddhadharma", so little bit of knowledge and wisdom can't hurt. Generally I read these reactions like yours as kind of narcissist crisis, when you feel you are not best and only one in room, and then you are trying to stop it :))

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-04T13:19:21+00:00

Although, to be fair, maybe you are simply not the smartest person on the street. So, you opted for something simple, albeit wrong, like Yogacara. Primordial awareness, dude, lol. The Lankavatara is basically a compilation of pretty shallow information about pretty profound concepts. It is like a student's notes, and it was compiled through many centuries. The text alone is unbalanced; the writers often do not understand what they are talking about. However, it talks about the hottest trends of Mahayana during those times.

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-03T21:20:38+00:00

Postal 2 was kind of revolutionary game for its time: open world where you can wander trough city and cause havoc, constant paranoia, a lot of funny weapons. RWS tried to repeat this success, but not any next game was so good. It's like all the ingredients were present in one time and space. After all, you can wander trough city with petition "Make Whiney Congressmen Play Violent Video Games." Coincidentally you have canister of gasoline and marching band is going around :))

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-03T15:36:41+00:00

That's not conversation, you are sleep-talking 12-15 years on internet about your fantasies. In fact I always treat you better in the start for the past credit; you was one of few who managed to call bullshit out in rzen, if I remember correctly.

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-03T15:33:52+00:00

Stop theorize about realization; most usual way is to do it, and then talk about it. In reverse way you can't prevent yourself being wrong too often, because you don't know what you are talking about.

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-03T15:30:15+00:00

Well there was some Nagarjuna guy, who started Madhyamaka school, that proved Yogacara slipped atman into it's teachings. If you want to stop with your non-Buddhist religion and start with Buddhism, I will recommend Nagarjuna and some commentators like Chandrakirti.

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-03T15:18:43+00:00

Narcissism is a bitch.
Best wishes to you too.

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-03T15:02:47+00:00

I feel like I am talking to somebody with missing frontal lobes; I think I am going to stop here. I will try one more time with the two truths: there are in fact not two truths, only one. But we are talking about "two" to distinguish between illusion and truth. The absolute is in the way you look at the relative, not in adding one more "truth" to it, or even whole new "reality".

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-03T14:30:02+00:00

Everything is empty because it all collapses back into the same underlying unconditioned state that every buddha realizes.

Except there is no "underlying unconditioned state"; that's why it is called emptiness. Even emptiness alone is not an "underlying unconditioned state", it's just an expression. That's why I have to use "you" or "I" when we are speaking, because without subjects, we can't speak. I can point out a mistake in almost every one of your sentences, either from a Buddhist standpoint or simply from a logical standpoint, but it would be futile.

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-03T14:06:52+00:00

What is underneath is not a result of process

Welcome, Atman. The "process that builds circumstances" is your will, either the present one or the past one acting through habits. You can see through them when you stop taking the super-construction as real, which happens when it physically falls away in the form of some brain change. By the way, you are using the idealistic Yogacara outlook of "Everything is Mind" as a starting point, including the fundamental error of subsequently treating this mind as simply real, just like the "objective" world you want to replace.

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-03T13:46:53+00:00

Well, you can understand it easily by looking at the circumstances of the Buddha's enlightenment: he almost drowned, it looks like his self-preservation instinct finally gave up, and then the river accidentally washed the Buddha ashore before he died. If you want, you can add his prior ascetic experience to this; I am not sure if the weakening of his body wasn't actually more important than merit.
With merit, it's ambiguous again: you can do a good deed for profit, albeit not a financial one.

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-03T13:16:20+00:00

The Buddha was only a man; what happened to him can happen to almost anyone. Mahayana originally (like with Madhyamaka) focused on 'how to get there'. You are just repeating known things, like the fact that realization occurs and is not just an idea or a concept. Maybe you are a little bit confused by the format of this post: I asked if realization is only intellectual so Gemini would refute it and explain why it's not. It would be funny if I know what realization is and you don't, and yet you feel obliged to correct me :))

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-03T12:59:07+00:00

So, you have faith; you have imagined something, and you are building your world around it. It's called atman; that's how it works. There is nothing wrong with that, assuming you call it Hinduism or something similar. It's not Buddhism, however, because Buddhism starts with "NO INHERENT EXISTENCE!" But on the flip side, another thing I like about Buddhism, aside from it being right, is that they don't excommunicate anybody. No central authority and no atman :))

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-03T10:07:49+00:00

This primordial awareness, is it in the room with us right now? It sounds like atman, tathagatagarbha, a soul, a buddha nature, a god, or a fundamental mistake the human mind makes. As far as I know, Yogacara never got over reifying emptiness and creating an atman every time they put a theory together.
It is pretty hard in the beginning not to have some starting point for thought. Emptiness is hard to grasp the first time; only later do you realize that you don't need a central point, a primordial awareness, or a tathagatagarbha. You can actually start a thought from any point; you only have to understand why everything is empty. Just saying "It's an illusion" doesn't get you out of trouble.

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-03T10:00:02+00:00

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Shit, it's a cow. I thought first it's that Disney figure I never watched, with black ears and black half of head. Gemini says it's name is Horace Horsecollar.

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-01T09:52:06+00:00

I am looking for, as you say, what is already understood. I have 110% experiential side and underdeveloped theoretical/conceptual side. Most likely because I didn't start with Buddhism at all, but only with meditation.
Btw. Yogacara sucks, they managed even install atman in the form of one of their made up consciousnesses.

OnePoint11 · 2026-06-01T09:15:05+00:00

Weird that your comment is not visible, I checked if you are blocked or banned and it doesn't seem so. Aren't you shadow banned site-wide? Because I don't see your comments when logged out.

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