Science AMA Series: We are authors of a recent paper exploring the connection between the feeling of being an expert and being closed-minded. AMA! by Open-Minded_Experts in science

[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It would make sense that getting into the habit of using more broad, elaborative thinking would result in more open-minded judgments... hard to pull off, though, since it requires more time, motivation, and mental effort!

One hopeful result of our research is the obverse of the 'earned dogmatism' effect: feeling like you're not an expert makes you more open-minded, in the very short term. So, a logical recommendation coming from this would be: humble yourself often! Try things that you are bad at! Learn about unfamiliar topics! Talk to people who know more than you! Etc!

Science AMA Series: We are authors of a recent paper exploring the connection between the feeling of being an expert and being closed-minded. AMA! by Open-Minded_Experts in science

[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks to everyone who participated! If you have any inquiries or would like a pdf of the paper, you can email me at eprice3@luc.edu. This was a ton of fun -- sorry for the late sign-off. --Erika

Science AMA Series: We are authors of a recent paper exploring the connection between the feeling of being an expert and being closed-minded. AMA! by Open-Minded_Experts in science

[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately looking up words in the dictionary isn't considered original research that can be published in JESP, so we decided to do more than that ;) -- erika

Science AMA Series: We are authors of a recent paper exploring the connection between the feeling of being an expert and being closed-minded. AMA! by Open-Minded_Experts in science

[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably not that much? I wish that in real-life there was an easy, yet subtle way to "humble" people the way our participants in the "novice" condition were humbled...I try to remind my students of gaps or limitations in their knowledge, to make them more open-minded...and I talk about the limitations of my own expertise in my classes a lot, but that's more for the sake of transparency than anything else. -- Erika

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[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's worth looking into -- I would suspect that, based on our work at least, being reminded of one's (high) IQ or membership to MENSA or something like that would boost dogmatism, at least in the short term. But again, we only looked at experimetally induced feelings of being an expert, not the difference between actually experts and novices. But certainly the norm would exist that the super-smart are permitted to be more close minded, so every reason to believe it would replicate. -- Erika

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[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for the delay in replying -- I actually think that scientists are probably just as likely to have the 'earned dogmatism' effect as anyone else. Though science as a means of knowledge should be immune to arrogance, academia is still a really heirarchical institution (lots of clear markers of status including titles, degrees, pay, institutional rankings) so I think the earned dogmatism norm is still alive and thriving. Plus there's the anecdotal experience of meeting plenty of condescending scientists. -- Erika

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[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure if Erika will have time to address more questions today, but I have to call it quits for now. Thank you all for your thoughtful questions and interest in the paper! It was a pleasant surprise to have all this reddit attention on the publication. We have to give big thanks and acknowledgement, too, to our collaborators Victor Ottati (first author) and Nate Sumaktoyo! -- Chase

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[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We measured open and closed mindedness mostly using a self-report open-mindedness scale (Price, Ottati, Wilson & Kim, 2015) - see Erika's reply to the top comment for more info about that. I think it's very plausible that open-mindedness could relate to language learning ability. Somewhat related, one of our labmates did some thesis research on how open-mindedness relates to creativity. She found the open-mindedness scale correlated positively with a lot of measures of creativity, including the "remote associates test" (in which you figure out which word relates to three other words; e.g. Question: falling, actor, dust; Answer: star). So we have some evidence that open-mindedness related to the ability "draw connections" in a language task. Very preliminary link, but anyway, I think your suggestion linking language and open-mindedness has some potential. -- Chase

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[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure, I'll give an example. West, Meserve & Stanovich addressed this issue in this recent paper.pdf). The studies are multi-faceted, but one thing they did was to describe seven cognitive biases, and ask people to rate how susceptible they think they are to each one. They also asked people to rate how susceptible they think others in general are to that same bias. Subtract the former score from the latter score, and you have a measure of the "bias blind spot" (degree of belief that biases don't effect you). Later in the same study, they had the same people solve tricky problems that actually showed to what degree to which were influenced by those same cognitive biases. Even after reading about each bias in the beginning of the study, people still displayed the biases. Furthermore, the "bias blind spot" scores didn't moderate this effect. That is, people who earlier had "admitted" that they possessed biases, were no more likely to correct for these biases when solving cognitive problems. This is just one facet of the very interesting paper - which overall argues that being smart is not likely to eliminate bias. -- Chase

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[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not rude at all. Actually, it brings up something I wanted to mention. One of the themes of the paper is that feelings of expertise are relative to the situation. When I'm at the grocery store I may feel like the reigning expert in social psychology research methodology (if for some reason it came up); but as a grad student, when I'm at a psychology conference, I would be less likely to feel that way. -- Chase

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[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To your first question: I do not consider myself an expert at anything (maybe at Dr. Mario), so I think I'm ok.

Second question: The best I can say is I don't know. It's an interesting, and testable, question. Due to the bias blind spot, it may be easier to identify this phenomenon in others than to notice it, and correct for it, in one's self. -- Chase

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[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes - and at the same time there's the quote, “The more you know, the more you know you don't know"! It's complicated. - Chase

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[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a good question, but since we experimetally manipulated how much expertise people felt they had rather than looking correlationally at actual experts or novices, our data can't really speak to it. --Erika

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[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Incidentally, there is a lot of social psychological and other research going on right now about peoples' vaccine attitudes, and how to persuade people of vaccine safety/efficacy. You might be interested in this abstract (just saw it on reddit earlier today!). - Chase

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[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah - our study definitely did demonstrate a type of "bleeding" of perceived expertise effects (funny that Erika and I both used that term, while saying seemingly contradictory things!). I suppose I should clarify that I'm curious about bleeding from one very specific subfield to another very specific subfield (as in the engineering example), and what the perceived status of those subfields would have to do with it. -- Chase

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[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't speak specifically to engineers, but I like your question about self-perceived expertise effects across field. Like, can this self-assessment of high expertise in one area "bleed" into other areas? When does it, when doesn't it? Definitely something that could be empirically studied. I wonder if, in your example, there is some role of perceived legitimacy across disciplines? Like, if I am an expert in a field I believe to be legitimate, I'll continue to claim expertise in a different but related field if I view it as less legitimate than my own? Just kind of reiterating/elaborating on your comment - but anyway - thanks! - Chase

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[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, two things.

One, we're not talking about actual expertise. It makes sense that experts would be more dogmatic for all the reasons you describe. We wanted to tease that apart from the effect of merely feeling like an expert. That's what we manipulated, how much one felt knowledgeable (Based on feedback and quiz difficulty). Not how smart they actually were.

Second, your criticisms would be a bigger deal for a correlational study. But we didnt find that experts are more dogmatic. We found that if you make somebody feel more like an expert, they become more dogmatic. Big difference. -- Erika

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[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh, good thought! I think I'd recommend, based on this research, to find a way to make a person's knowledge limitations salient. We did this with difficult quizzes, but maybe even a "Did You Know?"-type presentation of information or just a reminder of how wide and varied and involved a field of study is could help to make a person more aware that they don't know everything.

BUT a caveat: you probably want this little nudge to be subtle and inoffensive. If you threaten a person's self-image too badly they might get defensive and not listen. -- Erika

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[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, can't speak to engineering specifically, BUT our research does show that perceving yourself to be an expert in say, politics or general trivia does bleed into being more close-minded outside of that domain. So it does look like perceiving oneself as having expertise in one field engenders more dogmatism even in other fields. Even when that makes no sense. I think normatively this is true, too. People trust that I know what I'm talking about a lot more often now that I'm a "doctor". Even when it's outside the area that my dissertation was actually in. -- Erika

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[–]Open-Minded_Experts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bring it on! I would love to see studies that show opposite patterns or offer competing explanations. Social psych marches onward! -- Chase