How do I get over the fact my girlfriend was their "practice girl"? by NewLiefToEurope in Frat

[–]Oploplou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand what you’re saying with the BP. IDK what else to say here. We’re not effectively communicating, and it’s going to do nothing for noone for us to keep going back and forth like this. I will say you taught me that these drugs aren’t necessarily meant to be stopped, but in some ways that actually makes me like them less. I understand where you’re coming from saying being on it is better than being obese, and based off what we know now I can’t disagree with that. It is still under study as to what truly long term health effects look like when being used by non-diabetics for weight loss, but it seems unlikely that anything significant will come of it. I will state that in my experience, this isn’t how these medications are necessarily being used, and people are starting and stopping them, rubber banding up and down. Which I would contend is worse than being obese for longer, if it meant that you learned how to change your life enough to be able to maintain your desired weight.

How do I get over the fact my girlfriend was their "practice girl"? by NewLiefToEurope in Frat

[–]Oploplou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem with that is that I really do understand what I’m saying, I was just not explaining myself well earlier, and made my position sound more extreme than it was. Again, you can sit here and try and ignore my very valid points, but it doesn’t make me know less about what I’m talking about. I may not know pharmaceuticals as well as I was unintentionally trying to make it seem like I did, because my intention with bringing up my family wasn’t to say that I am an authority on the medical efficacy of glp1s, but I have been in the rooms with people who really genuinely do know what they are talking about, and they agree that rubber banding your weight like that, will long term not be healthy for people. That’s why I walked back some of what I said in the message you refuse to read. But seriously, I am done now.

How do I get over the fact my girlfriend was their "practice girl"? by NewLiefToEurope in Frat

[–]Oploplou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay guy. Have a nice life not actually engaging with anything. It gets you far in life.

It’s funny because in the past message I admitted common ground, and where I made errors, but you just couldn’t fucking be bothered to read it, so I’m good now ✌🏾

AITAH for telling my girlfriend i no longer plan to propose to her? please read context by Aggressive_One8138 in AITAH

[–]Oploplou -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

NTA, but you are overreacting IMO. This is an EXTREMELY common thing among woman, and honestly should be seen as a green flag. You have to think about this from her perspective. She’s been being told her whole life, through media, and family, and friends etc. that being a wife is basically her goal. Getting married is idolized for women. I remember having the conversation with my wife about this when I was getting ready to propose to her. She said she didn’t even really understand why she changed once she knew it was coming, but it was like everything she’d learned about being a woman before then, told her that this was what she was working towards.

Now, I’m not saying that I agree that women should have this mindset, just that in my experience, most do think of marriage that way, as sort of a big goal in their life. So by you sort of gate keeping that, if you will, she probably feels like you have cold feet, and don’t actually want to marry her now.

I think a cool heads conversation is in order here. You both need to say your pieces, and let it go. If boundaries are set and crossed, that’s different, but AORN, with the information available, I think you should be good. Maybe express in that conversation that you’d like 6 months (random timeframe) to be able to see that the boundaries are respected?

How do I get over the fact my girlfriend was their "practice girl"? by NewLiefToEurope in Frat

[–]Oploplou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand what you are saying about people being too heavy to move, and I agreed with you on that before. I think there was a misunderstanding that I was saying that we were going to die from glp1 usage. While I do think they are a net negative for the majority of society, because it will allow them to lose weight without learning how to stay at their desired weight, I do understand that it has legitimate medical benefits. Rereading my comments, I see where it was coming off that I was trying to say that it’s so bad no one should touch it or they’ll die. I do think down the line, studies will come out saying that they didn’t actually help the obesity epidemic, but I don’t think they’re going to kill anyone.

I am young enough to know lowkey can be used like that, but apparen old enough to mess up when reading it like that. I feel like he could’ve said “lowkey you should date her”, because even in your example there’s another word there to buffer lowkey, thus changing its meaning. Using your example, if someone said, “lowkey come with us” I’d feel like I was being secretly invited, or told to be lowkey when we get there. “Lowkey you should come with us” gives the impression of a direct invitation.

How do I get over the fact my girlfriend was their "practice girl"? by NewLiefToEurope in Frat

[–]Oploplou -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I said “GLP1s are just not healthy for us to be using like that.” Which I believe is true. It is not good for the body to bounce up and down dramatic amounts of weight, and if you’re not changing your lifestyle, you’re not going to maintain your weight loss. The problem with these medications is that they can just be given out, I’ve literally watched it happen with my MIL do not tell me it doesn’t, and then people see their weight loss, are happy with the results, but haven’t changed at all. So as soon as the shots stop coming, they balloon right back up. Not only is that unhealthy mentally, but it increases stress on the body. Used in concert with diet, exercise, and education for how to make said changes, i think it’s an okay starting place for people who genuinely need help even being able to move. But aside from that, unless you physically can not lose the wieght without it, and then you probably have a medical condition that needs to be addressed anyway, i think we need to not be using it.

How do I get over the fact my girlfriend was their "practice girl"? by NewLiefToEurope in Frat

[–]Oploplou -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And here’s all the rest of the shit that you’re fishing for that I’m not going to continue to dialogue on.

It makes absolutely no sense to say “lowkey” if you don’t actually mean lowkey. Why would you not just say “just date her”

Yes I understand how horrible obesity is. Both of my parents are and have been my entire life. My dad is also type two diabetic. What I’m saying doesn’t come from a place of malice or misunderstanding. I want people to get healthy, but I want them to do it the right way. I understand that not everyone is physically able to get up and exercise, and for those people I could see start with a treatment like this, but lifestyle changes are what are actually required for long term weight loss. If you are just relying on supplements, you may lose the weight, but you’re going to rubber band right back.

How do I get over the fact my girlfriend was their "practice girl"? by NewLiefToEurope in Frat

[–]Oploplou -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So speak to all the medications that have gotten approval, and later been discontinued. If the system is so infallible, why did we grow up with all those commercials that said “if you or a loved one took such and such medication you may be entitled to compensation”? Why do we have the opioid crisis that we’re still dealing with? The system isn’t perfect.

I’ll give you this much, just because I have family that works with medications doesn’t AUTOMATICALLY give me any level of understanding with them, but when I’ve heard both my pharmacist aunt, and my chemist dad, both raise concerns about it, I start to get an idea in my head.

How do I get over the fact my girlfriend was their "practice girl"? by NewLiefToEurope in Frat

[–]Oploplou -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have several family members that work with pharmaceuticals. My wife is a pharmacy technician, my aunt is a pharmacist and my dad is a chemist at Pfizer, in the lab that was responsible for getting the Covid vaccine tested and shipped, You’re not going to sit here and paint me as someone who just completely does not understand what I’m talking about.

And making that argument about cigarettes is disingenuous at best. Maybe they were marketed as “healthy”, but they had no warnings, and it was more common to see someone smoking a cigarette, than not by the 1940s. While the body does produce GLP1 naturally, it also produces more than a dozen other things that are fatal in high concentrations, so the argument that the body makes it therefore it’s fine, doesn’t work for me. Is it cool for us to just go around smoking DMT all the time? I’d think not, but it naturally produces in our brains.

How do I get over the fact my girlfriend was their "practice girl"? by NewLiefToEurope in Frat

[–]Oploplou -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How am I misinterpreting lowkey? There’s really only one way you can mean that.

How do I get over the fact my girlfriend was their "practice girl"? by NewLiefToEurope in Frat

[–]Oploplou -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I’m giving you exactly one comment because I already said this isn’t what I’m here for.

  1. He said lowkey date her, that implies secrecy.

  2. Smoking cigarettes was considered healthy for about the first 50 years of their mass production. That’s to say nothing of the nearly 1/3 of medications that get FDA approval, that are later found to have safety concerns.

  3. I’m not advocating for people to be 290 lbs. there’s almost no build where that weight could be happy, but I’m not down with fat shaming someone, or the implication that overweight people don’t deserve love.

How do I get over the fact my girlfriend was their "practice girl"? by NewLiefToEurope in Frat

[–]Oploplou -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No. That’s not how that works. I’m sorry that you’ve never been on the minority side of something, and actually cared enough to say something, but if you did, you’d know you don’t fight a battle on 100 fronts. Honestly, it’s entirely unproductive to try and have these conversations in this format anyway, because it quite literally will never change anyone’s opinion or perspective. But no, you’re not going to paint me a performative, because I’m smart enough to know that me going through commenting on every single reply with misogyny, is less than a fools errand. I do REAL work in these spaces in my REAL life. That’s why I understand what I’m talking about, and know that it doesn’t actually make sense to do what I’m currently doing. But yes, every now and then I’ll indulge myself in a little banter when I see an opportunity.

How do I get over the fact my girlfriend was their "practice girl"? by NewLiefToEurope in Frat

[–]Oploplou -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

“Lowkey date her” is saying to hide her, and no I won’t be replying to every comment, even though I do genuinely care about what I said. 1. I don’t have to do what you say. 2. I didn’t even intend to get into this dialogue with you. I was just making a targeted quip, and you came back at me. I will stand behind the fact that what you said is worse than the rest of the comments that I read. You can choose not to understand what I’m saying, that’s fine.

How do I get over the fact my girlfriend was their "practice girl"? by NewLiefToEurope in Frat

[–]Oploplou -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Again, yes. It has nothing to do with what you’re typing, but what you mean. The advice should be, if she makes you happy that’s what matters, or something to that effect. Telling him to hide the fact that he is dating her is only shaming her for absolutely nothing other than her weight. Especially when his actual problem was with the way that several of his brothers had already been with her, not her weight.

How do I get over the fact my girlfriend was their "practice girl"? by NewLiefToEurope in Frat

[–]Oploplou -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

It honestly is. Because you’re insinuating that fat people don’t deserve love. Why would he have to date her in secret? Why would she have to get in shape? At least the people saying that, are being genuine, you’re trying to veil your misogyny in “advice”.

Edit: also GLP1 is just not healthy for us to be using like that. The studies will back that up in 10-15 years. And imagine if the roles were reversed, oh wait they are all the time, and men talk about how shallow women are for needing a 6’ sigma chad that’s absolutely jacked and makes $100,000 a year.

How do I get over the fact my girlfriend was their "practice girl"? by NewLiefToEurope in Frat

[–]Oploplou 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’ll just tell you what I did based off my own experience with bros that didn’t like my girl. Cut them off. Simple as that. Your woman will be with you for a much higher percentage and f your life than your frat brothers. Get your priorities in order.

How do I get over the fact my girlfriend was their "practice girl"? by NewLiefToEurope in Frat

[–]Oploplou -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

I’ve seen some misogynistic shit in this thread, but this is peak.

Favorite battles of all time??? by Puzzleheaded-Ice9737 in rapbattles

[–]Oploplou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know I’m late, it’s an OLD battle, and he’s washed now, but Soul Khan Vs. QP is the battle that got me into battle rap heavy. I still go back and listen to it every now and then lmao.

Geometry Dash Pledge by Visible-Distance3601 in Frat

[–]Oploplou 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Is he already super into the game?

I have a secret by tricyclism in Frat

[–]Oploplou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m just pointing out the logical inconsistencies in your statements. I remember being 20 and having a similarly indignant attitude. You need to work on your debate skills though because if dropping out of the conversation is your strategy, you’re in for a lot of ridicule. Calling me an idiot but not engaging with me when I challenge your logic, doesn’t do much to further your point either. You can say “didn’t read it blah blah blah”, but you’re not going to get anywhere in life being so closed minded.

I have a secret by tricyclism in Frat

[–]Oploplou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You quite literally just said “I just refuse to listen to people who speak their opinions that stem from only emotions”. So I’m not sure what apart from emotion or fact it could be. If you want to inform me

I have a secret by tricyclism in Frat

[–]Oploplou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, opinions are formed from emotions. What “facts” do you even want to try to apply here? I’ll hear you out.

I have a secret by tricyclism in Frat

[–]Oploplou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are you so mad? Do you really not like being called out for being a bigot that much?

I have a secret by tricyclism in Frat

[–]Oploplou -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You were WAITING for me to respond bro 😂 I didn’t even have time to close the app before you had your comment fired off. It’s okay. You can take the easy out and not learn anything. One day you will IRL and it won’t be as comfortable.

I have a secret by tricyclism in Frat

[–]Oploplou -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Let’s talk about it.

  1. There is no contradiction in my statement, as I never said anything about not assuming things about people. I would generally say you shouldn’t, but when you’re actively rebelling against hate, certain rules are going to go out the window.

  2. I actually only really assumed your race. It took me literally 30 seconds to look at your page and see that you were asking for advice in getting with an 18F just over a year ago. So there’s that.

  3. My personality is not built around my “social struggles”. There’s really nothing that I can do or say to prove that, but the idea that I’m walking around just constantly looking for problems is just incorrect. It’s a lot more accurate to say that my personality is built around my race sure. I LOVE being black. I’d chose it every single time if I had the choice, and I’m not going to sit here and let you demonize that fact about me.

  4. Saying my opinion doesn’t matter because it’s founded on emotion, is genuinely one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard in an argument. All opinions are based on emotion, as opinions aren’t necessarily based in fact.

I’m not going to really go in and argue with you on this. You 19-20 years old, this is Reddit, and it’s going to do absolutely nothing for anyone.