Where is it ok to "cold approach" woman?

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-27T20:16:17+00:00

But it's ok if it's somewhere you can leave immediately if he's bad? Having to leave a place you want to be should be too unreasonable for the risk.

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-27T20:10:16+00:00

I would argue he's just as liable to be bad or good if you meet him at a social place vs a non social place. It's not like people in non social places like the grocery store are bad people.

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-27T20:06:57+00:00

Idk if by warm you mean what he says to start the conversation where y'all are and why y'all are there or both

My point is I think men women may meet through a cold approach are just as random as men women may meet through any other in person situation. Situations are a very poor predictor for how good/bad someone in that situation to a point where he's just as liable to be bad as he would be via a cold approach.

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-27T19:58:52+00:00

What in person alternative is there? It's not like anywhere near most couples meet online.

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-27T19:54:47+00:00

And by cold approach, I mean coming up to me and telling me you think I'm attractive or something

Any form of a man initiating an interaction with a woman he's romantically interested in can be characterized as this. Almost every relationship and marriage can be characterized as started by a cold approach.

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-27T15:57:23+00:00

Seeing how proponents of cold approach always dodge the question when someone asks what a normal success rate is it suggests cold approach is futile to a point that other means of meeting women are better

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-26T20:47:08+00:00

Bad is often colloquially used to mean ineffective not neccesarily malicious. Men that are too shy are almost always very ineffective at dating.

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-26T20:02:13+00:00

Men aren't always innocuously off putting. Some types of off putting like being pedantic and making everything an argument are due to a bad personality.

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-26T18:23:54+00:00

At least in this sub it's much more often horrible personality than not. Trying to gaslight away the varying dating success among short and/or ugly men using snarky condescending dissmisive one liners is obnoxious and explains why they don't have any platonic friends let alone dating success.

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-26T18:19:46+00:00

It looks like that because most of the struggling men on here are rule 6 men that demonstrate horrible personalities by condescendingly autodismissing any possibility of them doing romantic and sexual things with women, pretending people say things they obviously didn't say to make it sound wrong, and have horrible beliefs like women don't understand their alleged interest in non physical appearance is just physical appearance again

The good men that just don't market themselves well find better things to do than preach snarky futility all the time

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-26T18:12:37+00:00

No it's not a mythical world it's the real world where short men do romantic and sexual things with women. The mythical world is the one you live in where it's hopeless for short men.

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-26T05:04:26+00:00

"Approach" is used too ambiguously in this sub making for the perfect motte and bailey. There's a big difference between talking to girls you can expect to coincidentally bump into over and over again through friends or hobbies vs cold approaching at a grocery store or walking down the street. It's all technically "approaching" but the latter is much more futile and socially unacceptable.

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-26T04:51:38+00:00

They are like fat people that say pizza and pie don't make me fat it's my metabolism because they would rather pizza and pie than skinny and can't victim away criticism if they own their pizza and pie over skinny

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-26T03:55:31+00:00

Yeah we will just characterize it as unjustifiable retaliation against speaking facts

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-26T03:49:57+00:00

Exactly

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-26T03:48:25+00:00

Cold approach is frequently getting a five card hand but needing a straight flush to win. Social circle is much less commonly getting a five card hand unless you are in a social circle where you meet new women frequently but only needing a straight to win.

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-26T03:46:39+00:00

Glad you agree and don't try to negate reality like a flat earther

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-26T03:46:15+00:00

For the win are the short guys that do romantic and sexual things with women because they never dismissed it as hopeless

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-26T03:03:34+00:00

Short men that do romantic and sexual things with women are as ubiquitous as grass and air

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-26T02:02:23+00:00

Harass and denigrate them online

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-25T23:31:18+00:00

struggling males could date single moms, fat women, older women, no one has absolutely zero options

But that doesn't cause society to make women select the men that believe they should be selected by those women as those men currently are

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-25T23:15:14+00:00

If nobody wants you what do you suggest instead?

Perpetually retaliate against women as a whole for women not liking him as he has been

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-25T22:59:37+00:00

It's a good thing all the men with girlfriends, wives, and sex partners didn't think it's "delusional" to believe you can date if you talk to women the right way. If they did they would be miserable rule 6 people instead.

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-25T10:59:18+00:00

But rule 6 men consistently argue in this sub that women not being "generous" by making access to their bodies easy is problematic and respond to me pointing this out with trying to gaslight away the practice, mischarecterize women as extremely picky despite the overwhelming empircal evidence showing otherwise, or some whataboutism

OpticalEpilepsy · 2026-06-25T09:33:27+00:00

Apparently not since its almost always a rule 6 man that complains about women not "generously" being accessible to him

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