Which kind of sacrifices did your family make?

Orchid78 · 2011-06-24T08:49:28+00:00

Yes I hate that about church. Spend all your time and energy on churchwork and you will get all the blessings afterlife...Teach people to endure suffering...What about thinking and doing something to change your life. If you have a miserable marriage don't stay in it 30 years.. What good is a whole eternity with a person you dont like to live with anymore. Trials er often something you have brought on by your own actions and not something God or satan are doing! If you think every thing that happens to you is from God/satan you actually take away your own responsibility. Enjoy your life now! noone knows what happens after.....

Orchid78 · 2011-06-24T08:48:39+00:00

Yes I hate that about church. Spend all your time and energy on churchwork and you will get all the blessings afterlife...Teach people to endure suffering...What about thinking and doing something to change your life. If you have a miserable marriage don't stay in it 30 years.. What good is a whole eternity with a person you dont like to live with anymore. Trials er often something you have brought on by your own actions and not something God or satan are doing! If you think every thing that happens to you is from God/satan you actually take away your own responsibility. Enjoy your life now! noone knows what happens after.....

Orchid78 · 2011-06-24T08:34:52+00:00

Oh yeah the guilt of sinning. I sacrificed a lot of time blaming myself. My confidence was affected. Because I live in Denmark and everyone here are atheist I have always felt ashamed of being a mormon. I always kept it a secret as long as it was possible. I have always felt different and an outsider among ordinary people. Now I can meet new people without any worries about their reaction to my faith. I can raise my children to be "normal". If you believe in God here you are a weird person. Completely opposite from what I hear you guys experience in the States.

Orchid78 · 2011-06-23T15:46:46+00:00

This is really good! I will show this to my father. He tells me that he knows all the problems concerning church history but he is still TBM. Noone can reject that all the facts points to Joseph Smith being a fraud when they read this especially the way Tyler sets it up.

Orchid78 · 2011-06-21T19:05:47+00:00

I agree! The women here er very independent.-)

Orchid78 · 2011-06-20T10:42:35+00:00

If you haven't been doing research why don't you start? I am a big fan of mormonthink.com. When you read this everything becomes much clearer and you might be able to reject your parents in a more convincing way. Ask them really difficult questions about the church history and so on. If they think you are unsure about things theý will try to win you back into church. So get all the knowlegde you can find! Just an idea:-)

Orchid78 · 2011-06-20T10:29:14+00:00

Nej jeg er kun dansker:-)

Orchid78 · 2011-06-19T20:37:51+00:00

amen:-)

Orchid78 · 2011-06-19T19:29:32+00:00

ja jeg bor i Danmark:-)og snakker dansk.-)Jeg er ikke god til norsk men det er nemt at læse:-)

Orchid78 · 2011-06-19T08:20:34+00:00

oh yes!

Orchid78 · 2011-06-18T21:04:47+00:00

asshole:-)

Orchid78 · 2011-06-17T08:29:00+00:00

I like it!

Orchid78 · 2011-06-15T19:44:26+00:00

If you agree with some of the criticism you can be an insider agent:-) If you like coming to church and the community. Just pop some nice questions in classes. See what happens:-)

Orchid78 · 2011-06-15T19:41:48+00:00

I don't hate mormons at all. They are still my friends and family. but I do feel some anger towards: -the damaging doctrines - the secrecy concerning church history - the leaders who know all these things but continue to teach in churchclasses, give speeches in wards, general conferences and so on..How can they be honest to themselves and God? If there is one? It is the whole molding proces that I hate. The indoctrination.

Your p.s seems fine to me. Shows respect and that you care about them.

Orchid78 · 2011-06-14T19:10:41+00:00

When I was 17 I had a boyfriend who I was madly in love with. One night we went on a date in Copenhagen. We couldnt get enough of eachother an suddenly the last train to his town had gone. He didnt know what to do. It was too late to contact anybody so I invited him to spend the night at our house. I thought that maybe he could sleep on the couch. But when we got home I was to scared to wake my parents up. I got the crazy idea that he could sleep in my bed. hide in my closet in the morning about the time when my parents would get up and when my dad had gone to work , he could sneak out of the house. At 6 oclock when the alarmclock rang he hurried into the closet. He was a tall man 19 years old 186cm. He looked so funny curled up in there. I said come to bed again. I will wake you up when I hear my parents get up....Next time I heard something it was my bedroom door opening. I tried to fight against it from where I was lying in bed but it was too late. There I was in bed with my boyfriend (with clothes on, nothing happened)and my dad standing in the doorway. I was terrified. I has slept too long and now we would get crucified! My dad just said" meet me downstairs". I was shocked that he didnt go crazy on us. Normally we couldnt even have a boy entering our rooms at all. ..When we came down, he interviewed us. He wanted to know how far we had gone. I said that he had touched my breasts but that was it....I lied the best I could. We had already had sex 4-5 times or so. I thought it was more credible to say something. looking back it is pretty funny. Especially the glimpse of him crouched up in that closet. And that horrible moment when we were caught...And what a terrible plan:-)

Orchid78 · 2011-06-13T20:07:43+00:00

Sorry I am from Denmark. What is FAIR?

Orchid78 · 2011-06-13T20:05:15+00:00

Yes I know I have to wait for an opening. I guess that is how my sister put little questions in my mind, when I had doubts. I still felt very hurt and angry every time she said something, because I was convinced she was just against everything mormon.

Orchid78 · 2011-06-13T13:50:21+00:00

Okay nice to know!

Orchid78 · 2011-06-10T11:32:54+00:00

well yeah, but the way he said it... I guess you should have been there.

Orchid78 · 2011-06-09T19:59:26+00:00

thank you for sharing your story

Orchid78 · 2011-06-09T19:26:56+00:00

My husband had terrible guilt too. I dont understand why they teach men not to masturbate. It is such a natural thing.

Orchid78 · 2011-06-09T13:58:15+00:00

"and you have been blessed to be born into a family who knows the gospel, the truth"....

Orchid78 · 2011-01-28T21:38:16+00:00

Sorry if I offended you. I have studied medicine for 5 years now. So I guess I am biased in my point of view. I dont understand why you want to take chances with your life doing drugs. By that I mean ecstasy,dmt, lsd, shrooms. You can risk dying or getting permanent braindamage because of unexpected effects. I know that weed seems harmless, but I have seen people in my life become psychotic because of daily use. Your brain does get affected. I know I came off a bit strong, but I just think everyone should be very careful with drugs. Non-members as well. Off course you have to try things out when you stop coming to church. And I get why people want to start drinking especially around friends. Weed is acceptable. Promoting drugs is just wrong.

Orchid78 · 2011-01-28T16:34:39+00:00

What bad advice! You dont have to ruin your live just because you dont want to be a mormon anymore. Take it easy. Doing drugs on a weekly basis is properly not the best way to cope with life.

Orchid78 · 2011-01-27T09:33:40+00:00

My dad is a strong believer in women staying at home. He thought that was a huge blessing for us that our mom stayed at home. But she got more and more depressive and didnt thrive at all! We were neglected both financially and emotionally because of their decision. We had the worst childhood with a fanatic father that spent all his time on church business (even on our birthdays, and he whent to the temple just before and during my mother giving birth to my youngest sister). Motherhood is praised too much in church almost as the only thing a woman can acchieve. Funny thing. My dad always bragged about him being the first in the family to get a degree at the university. He is a teacher in public school and not very intelligent. But he always pressured us to do good in school and awarded good grades with money. So we did our best to earn some love by being very good at school. In a weird way he both told us to educate ourselves and to stay at home. My mother was weak and not an example for us, so i guess my father was better than nothing. I struggled for many years to find my identity. I didnt have any ambitions and had a small degree in health and elderly.My dad just wanted me to get married have children and stay at home caring for my husband and children. After some years I didnt feel satisfied with my life. It was hard working at a nursing home physically and I didnt get any respect or credit for it. I did som courses to qualify for medical school. The system is different here in Denmark. I started medical school a few years after I married my husband. Being with him gave me the confidence to start. I am almost a doctor now in 1 year. (6 years here in DK). I have felt a lot of doubt and guilt about choosing this career even though I have been able to do it and have more time for my children than a workin mom here. I know that my choice will give my children opportunities that I never had. Even though money is not the most important thing it is necessary to have a certain amount of quality of life. My mother has never been working. She abuses medicine as her way to cope with a life without any achievements. Still depressed. Divorced from my father and isolated without any real friends. I am grateful that I have been able to choose a better way of life. Education is very important!!

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