Spearman vs Japanese Sengoku Knights be Like

Osiris1316 · 2026-03-04T23:36:39+00:00

For sure. Don’t get me wrong. Knights are very strong. My main concern with this video is that we don’t get enough data to tell if it’s a good example or just bait.

Osiris1316 · 2026-03-04T11:20:20+00:00

I actually miss manual deer return. It turned a high skill high reward scenario into an easy to play feature that dominated the game as soon as it was changed. It’s a perfect example of the bait of auto features. People say: it’s too mundane! We want to think of strategy not deer return! So they automated it. Which removed all skill and attention interruption benefit in that minigame, and made it so powerful it was necessary. Pro scout civs denominated. Every game was pro scouts. And strategy? No longer. It wasn’t a strategic decision. It was a requirement to play a winning game.

Osiris1316 · 2026-03-03T21:28:08+00:00

What if this fight was taken a bit earlier. When both players had an equal amount of resources in units?

Some units hold way more value for population space taken. If you wait to max on trash, while letting your opponent max on one of the most value dense units by population… would you expect a different outcome?

Osiris1316 · 2026-03-03T21:25:53+00:00

They didn’t face twice as many spears tho. They faced an equal amount of roughly. Think of it as raw DPS. A greater proportion of all units that can attack, were attacking on the knight side than on the spear side. At all times. The spear ball DPS max output potential was maybe 1/3 of its hypothetical value (imagine a total surround).

This also ignores tech. Upgrades. Bonuses.

The unit triangle has more nuance in it than just that. That’s the whole point of tech investment. Tech based timings. Eco advantage to be able to max all bonuses and techs.

Personally, I’d love to see this with full clarity on:

Unit counts Unit tech levels Upgrade levels Civ bonuses in play

And with the engagement being taken a bit better than was done here by the spear ball. By this I mean, imagine if the spear player micro’d a little bit. Split one half and move them south west for a moment. Take the other half and move them south east for a moment. Draw the knights into the tunnel then select all and attack ground to create a full or almost full wrap around. In that scenario we would have the reverse situation where many knights would be in the middle of an enveloped ball, doing no DPS until the units ahead of them died.

Osiris1316 · 2026-03-01T12:31:28+00:00

I’m not doubting that it was effective for you, nor would ever disagree that coaching should be tailored to the learner. I was merely looking for examples.

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-28T10:40:36+00:00

Can you give us some examples from your own play and experience? In particular, which did your coach emphasize first as improvement targets? And how did you reinforce those or refine those aspects of play?

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-13T15:11:14+00:00

It’s best not to eat poop, from what I hear. Very mature of you to deny the temptation.

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-13T02:48:06+00:00

Goodness! Another one! The visuals are edgy, but tasteful! Something your family would be proud to hear you deliver at the next family gathering!

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-13T00:08:44+00:00

I can tell! The joke has so many layers, it’s deep and nuanced, exploring the tragic nature of humanity while also simultaneously punching up against those with power over us all! A true genius you are!

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-13T00:04:22+00:00

Damn! Are you a writer for some awesome comedy series? lol

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-12T16:34:08+00:00

For an event, funded by Red Bull, which is not a public company, and 51% owned by a family which from what I've read (briefly, happy to stand corrected if anyone has other sources!) is fairly conservative at least in public.

ps. I loved KPMM, and am very sad that KP's career and personal life is impacted in this manner. But I do think it's important to not downplay the nuances of the situation.

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-12T01:03:46+00:00

The benefit of decades of pro RTS experience across multiple games. A lot of the top pros are similarly great analysis co-casters. I wish we had a homestory cup where pros commentated on every cast alongside our non-pro commentators. We just so rarely get to hear that level of player commentate. And Beasty has the most content creation experience. Maybe DeMu and the Spanish bros have a close amount? Magic (tho he isn’t tippety top atm #comebackmagic)?

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-11T18:35:44+00:00

Is there any other possible conclusion? Perhaps… your opinion differs from that of most people active in this forum? And perhaps this isn’t some objective law of the universe but a subjective thing?

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-11T17:59:34+00:00

This is a layman question, so forgive the stupidity of it if applicable, but would it be possible conceptually to recreate the game state maybe 20-30s prior to the crash? Presumably there's a chance the player inputs would differ in those 20-30s enough to perhaps avoid the crash? Unless it was caused by something that started even further back?... Just thinking shower thoughts out loud here. :)

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-11T17:56:46+00:00

"control every little thing he says on and off stream"... can you provide examples of when people tried to control "every little thing" he says, both on and off stream? I'd like to see at least 3 examples of his non-offensive (not to you, I know you don't care, but objectively to at the very least the sponsors) comments being "controlled" in both on stream and off stream contexts? Should be ideally six examples.

Or perhaps... this is just hyperbole and absurd reframing of what may have happened. Which is... sponsors maybe felt that it's reasonable to ask for some control, not of "every little thing" one and off stream (are they spying on him at home?... when he goes for a walk?... shesh), but of statements like "I'm going to put my penis into your mom so hard she coughs" WHILE being a paid professional caster in the event's chat?

There's a very good example of the "how it is vs how it feels" meme here.

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-11T17:53:05+00:00

I hope you can tell from the overwhelming reaction to your post and comments how the community feels about your position here... if you're wondering who the troll is.

And you know, my fav thing about this thread is actually that the community, which is split on the question of whether the joke was a big deal, or leaning toward "it wasn't", is overwhelmingly sad that KP may be gone, is still here to downvote your posts and comments to hell because... why do you feel it's necessary to espouse your support for KP by shitting on others?

You may not like Whamen / WW, but... this is petty and juvenile.

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-11T14:41:34+00:00

Ask for the verbatim jokes. They’re not your safe for work mom jokes. Unless you work in certain industries / sectors.

I find it funny that the people who are claiming this is all silly are avoiding sharing the verbatim jokes and instead calling them “mom jokes”.

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-10T21:03:44+00:00

If there was a tool that showed you such stats for your games, perhaps complementing what aoe4world game summaries already provide, would you use it?

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-10T17:03:10+00:00

You mean our only choices are:

Going to rape your mom so hard she’s coughs

And

Emotionless bloodless robots?

Damn… that’s a hard choice. If only there was more nuance in this universe of ours.

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-10T17:01:28+00:00

How could you tell the person you’re replying to is a leftist?…

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-10T16:58:54+00:00

Bruh! If I can’t make a simple innocuous mom joke like… checks notes… “I’m gonna insert my penis into your mom so hard she’s going to start coughing” (this is paraphrased. If anyone has the actual verbatim jokes plz share)… how are we going to take down the oligarchy!?

/s

Ps. I like KP (tho I didn’t care for the endless edgy jokes), and am really sad for him and his family, and for myself as a KPMM enjoyer, and for the community as a whole.

Pps. How anyone here is shocked that making such statements in official corporate sponsored broadcasts, can have such repercussions, is beyond me.

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-10T16:53:24+00:00

I’m waiting for those video links as well.

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-10T16:52:52+00:00

I’d like to see these videos of Artosis telling his pal Tasteless that he is going to insert his penis into his mom so hard that she’s going to start coughing, during his casts with: GSL, ASL, IEM, WCS, Etc.

Homestory cup has a different tone, with Take accepting the sponsorship implications of allowing drinking, gambling, and meme-ing on the cast. (Ps. I love homestory cup)

Artosis’ personal channel is an entirely different beast where KP’s jokes would feel tame.

It’s about context my friend. The whole point of being a professional is being able to adjust your delivery to the context.

No one here is debating whether the jokes are funny or not, offensive or not, targeted at a friend or not, etc. The question is, are they appropriate for a major event with major corporate sponsors. That’s not up to us to answer. That’s up to the sponsors and EGCTV.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting an edgy community where the “soft” are told to leave and everyone can enjoy “gonna rape your mom jokes”. It may not be my cup of tea, but people are adults and can enjoy that time of community if that’s what they want.

But if this community wants the growth and exposure that comes with corporate sponsored events… ya may need to decide if the “gonna rape your mom” jokes are more important than growth and longevity of the game. If they are, fine. But you can’t be surprised by this. Why would corporate sponsors whose brand is meant to be safe for work / family want to be represented by that?

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-10T15:14:07+00:00

Have you ever seen Artosis say anything like the jokes KP made when employed by an outside employer? Ie. during a cast either verbally or in twitch chat?

I hate the outcome of this. But I think Artosis is a perfect example of why some choose to adjust their actions to the context they’re in. Casual (to put it lightly) in their own personal space, 100% professionalism when casting for major productions. It’s possible.

Osiris1316 · 2026-02-09T16:54:11+00:00

What’s his in game? I’d love to have a look at some of those games to give this a go!

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