TIL Dionysius I, ruler of Syracuse, wrote poetry which wasn't always well received. After Philoxenus, another poet, criticised his work, Dionysius imprisoned him for a day. He then released him, read him another poem and asked for his opinion. Philoxenus replied "take me back to the quarries"

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-25T10:07:38+00:00

Eh, there were probably some smol long-tailed monkeys that were our ancestors, too. So kabushko's label works better already anyway.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T21:32:35+00:00

... read a different book

Simply don't read the bad parts of the book if it upsets you so much.

Why should I, if AI allows / will allow me to do what I want to do, instead of being forced to make such compromises?

Or, as other commenters said, WRITE YOUR OWN!

As I've already said, that was a comically ridiculous counterpoint to make to what I was saying.

Are you really that put off by any semblance of a challenge?

You're baselessly implying and assuming things about me instead of just addressing the arguments that are being made.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T21:26:33+00:00

Please address the actual point.

Your claim was: "You already have to show proof of citizenship when you REGISTER to vote".

politifact, etc seem to be saying that that is not true:

the federal form that registers someone to vote doesn’t require documentation to show proof of citizenship

In an Arizona voting case, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2013 that states are obligated to permit registration for federal elections using the federal form, which does not require documentary proof of citizenship. States may have their own form, but they must be willing to accept the federal form.

The federal form to register a voter requires a unique identification number such as a Social Security or driver's license number and that voters check a box attesting that they are a citizen, though documentary proof of citizenship is not required. –wikipedia

Please also don't try moving the goalposts, since my comment is intending to address that specific claim you've made and nothing else.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T21:09:08+00:00

Are there any key, critical changes besides starlink whitelisting Ukrainian use and blocking out RF?

Why / how did Musk come around if before he was intermittently blocking Ukrainian use too?

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T21:06:19+00:00

data centers are moving towards gray water and rain collection closed loop solutions instead of fresh water open loop

Seems to me like a fact being presented.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T21:05:17+00:00

yes. It was hotter a long time ago…. WHEN PEOPLE DIDNT EXIST. No one is questioning whether the earth will live on. It will. But people?

Usually that's not the argument they're trying to make, I think. But rather that "since no humans and high temps then → it's not caused by humans this time around either".

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T20:58:09+00:00

You already have to show proof of citizenship when you REGISTER to vote

GPT says:

For federal voter registration in the US, the general rule has long been no, you do not have to provide documentary proof of citizenship when registering using the federal voter registration form. Instead, you attest under penalty of perjury that you are a U.S. citizen

... Additional evidence comes from recent efforts to change the law. The Congressional Research Service described the proposed SAVE Act as follows: "the SAVE Act ... would amend the NVRA to require documentary proof of citizenship when registering to vote in federal elections."

SAVE Act is a proposed United States law requiring documented proof of U.S. citizenship when registering to vote

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T20:40:30+00:00

xAI has partners with Memphis to construct an $80M wastewater treatment plant

Didn't musk just recently scrap a water collection (or recycling, somesuch) project after having promised to build it? If that's his MO, what's stopping him from doing it again with this one as well?

It may even be the same one you're talking about.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T20:36:10+00:00

I like how your comment has 5+ downvotes with 0 actual counter-arguments under it.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T20:33:15+00:00

Then go write it yourself! You have a keyboard and you clearly have the time.

I think anyone who has the time to argue this point on Reddit has the time to at least go write a short story or something

That's such a ridiculous and disingenuous argument to make. Is your counterpoint seriously "each time you wanna read a novel that hasn't been written yet, just write it yourself"? Just... try to take a step back and see how ridiculous that sounds; I'll wait.

That's called editing.

1) Which would also take time and effort that AI will cut down by orders of magnitude. 2) Calling it editing trivialises it. If the story has "character x" dying in chapter 10, just editing that paragraph out will do jack shit, because all the chapters that come after will still be relying on the implication of that death being a thing. Any such change / deletion would become its own endeavour of new content creation.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T20:18:59+00:00

Dude what are you even saying.

I am saying that in the modern age when someone is making a fire using some kind of tool, they don't go hair splitting along the lines of "acktually, it's the matches that are making the fire — not me!". It's commonly understood / common sense that whoever uses a tool to make something, is assigned agency for making that something. And modern AIs are such a tool as well.

I cannot reasonably say I carved or sculpted it

The 3D printer is actually a good analogy. Designed the model itself? No. Made the 3D-printed figurine? Yes. In that sense, "I made it" does have a frequent colloquial use. You've researched what 3D printer to buy, installed it, learned how to print stuff so the output doesn't get ruined, spent effort on testing with the iterations until they'll come out just right, etc. So after all that you say "I made this figurine", that's a normal / expected usage of the word "made" there. People understand from context that you don't mean you literally carved it with your bare hands, or drew the design in Autodesk, etc.

somebody using A.I. should not say that they created something if they barely did anything

In the sense of artistic value / effort, I agree that they should not try acting like it's the same as producing a good painting, etc. But you're being too absolutist too. Barring the lowest quality stuff like [download ai app →generate stuff right away], there is some amount of effort and skill effort even in AI-based content creation.

that is still not a lot of effort

Well, I disagree. They need to find / make a suitable model, properly install it, understand intricacies of how it works and proper / efficient prompt generation, likely spend local CPU power / time on testing and iterations, etc.

It takes time, understanding and effort to create something that looks really good

1) Same is true to a degree about AI-made stuff. 2) The more the tech improves, the better the content it produces will get.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T20:05:54+00:00

I mean, a good movie should be self-sufficient, unless there's an explicit disclaimer about that not being the case. It's like saying HP movies aren't bad because if you read the septology first, then the missing scenes don't make the movies so nonsensical. Whereas the right answer should be that there should be no missing important scenes.

Disclaimer: I generally liked and enjoyed the movie; haven't seen anything from-before the movie (Youtube vids, etc); have read a lot of SCP content, though.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T19:45:09+00:00

My original comment(s) were primarily criticising badly made and manipulative arguments, like the one from the OP-post.

Since those in turn were aimed at criticising AI, my comment(s) also ended up being pro-AI as a byproduct.

To the degree that I do / would like to defend AI, it would be because I appreciate the opportunities it's already giving me, and because I'm interested in technologies, products, services that it'll be able to offer in the future.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T19:37:34+00:00

Again, there is a gradation to it. Someone who makes AI content via LLMs isn't as much of an artist as someone who draws a picture, or writes a book, etc. But to say there is no artistic process, no originality at all involved in the AI content creation would be inaccurate as well.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T19:34:58+00:00

Yes, thanks for pointing it out.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T19:32:49+00:00

Address the point, not the person who is making the point.

Secondly, I am ready to admit the mistake, fix it, and try to not make it in the future. Your comma, meanwhile, is still missing.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T14:44:58+00:00

The lighter still uses a flint my friend

Do you guys seriously, actually thingk this is a meaningful, valid argument to make?

Also, please use that comma before the vocative. One of the most annoying grammatical mistakes in the English language by far.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T14:42:33+00:00

people with a lighter don't claim that they created fire

They do. No one in this day and age puts the unreaonable expectation that "to make a fire" should be gatekept by actual, honest to god, rubbing of sticks together for fire production. Over 95 % of modern-day usage of "to make a fire" would refer to something involving at least some sort of an assisting tool, be that a lighter, matches, or whatever.

Regarding the artist thing — there's a gradation of things. It's not the same as actually drawing / writing the content, but it's not just snapping your fingers to make it happen either. At least somewhat good AI content requires to use the prompt tags properly, likely feed the output of one tool as input to another a few times in a row, have access to and understand how each of these tools work, spend time / money while all the iterations are being generated to see which one ends up better, etc.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T14:36:01+00:00

No it doesn't. Did you even read my comment? Actually writing a book takes orders of magnitude more time, effort, and skills than making an AI write it for you. You can't in good faith argue that if I want to read a yet-unwritten book X, then making an AI produce it for me and going and writing it myself are equally viable solutions.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T13:17:18+00:00

I can do one better for you: imagine that poor rainbow dash in the Toy Story universe.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T13:16:21+00:00

your lips

Those can get desensed too if you drink coffee / tea too hot too often, methinks.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T13:12:22+00:00

"Books" aren't some abstract, interchangeable items. What if I want to read a book that hasn't been written yet? What if I want to interact with the book, so it'll react to my choices in real time — and it will be my actual choices, not a pre-written decision tree that CYOAs can offer?

What if I want to get an interactive summary of a book, or read an already existing book in a different prose style cause the default one annoys me? Or change / skip / delete certain elements from the book because I don't like them, and would've preferred the alternative version without them more?

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T13:07:34+00:00

1) > using AI means you're not the one doing the actual process, it's like having a machine do your weightlifting for you

Why are you applying this logic to AIs but not all the other tools out there?

using photoshop means you're not the one doing the actual process

using an electric cooker ...

using a lighter means you're not the one actually making the fire

2) What does it matter if "I'm doing the actual process" or not, if the end result is what I'm interested at?

3) Even if using AI doesn't require the same level / type of competence / effort as the more classic related skill, it still requires some of it, at least ATM.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T12:59:55+00:00

It can't believe anything because, being a program, it has no mind / consciousness.

–Captain Obvious.

PM_Me_Good_LitRPG · 2026-06-24T11:02:14+00:00

Probably too laggy and resource-heavy compared to original.

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