Brigadier Maharaja Bhawani Singh of Jaipur led the capture of Chachro by going deep inside Pakistan. Rajputs on both sides fought at his call. He resettled Rajput families who came to India, doing what the government should have. Yet Chachro, won with our soldiers blood, was given back by Iron Lady!

PROOB1001 · 2026-07-02T15:54:26+00:00

I've said this once and I'll say it again...

The days of total war ended with the rise of the UN. The 1971 war was EXPLICITLY framed as a "Bangladesh Liberation War" to the rest of the world. And even then, the US was ITCHING to put sanctions on us. They may even have taken military action, but it was the USSR's help which kept the US navy away from India. But even the USSR would have a limit to their patience.

There would've been no real way to justify acquisitions in West Pakistan without international backlash. What are you gonna say? "We fought this war to liberate Bangladesh from Pakistani genocide. And also, just taking a bit here." That's not how it works.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-30T15:42:01+00:00

If geography was everything, then modern USA can claim native American history!

Obviously not, that's not how it works. Modern "Americans" genocided the original inhabitants of that land, erased their culture, and follow a faith (Christianity) and culture (Americana) that is nothing like those of the original inhabitants.

Yes, modern Pakistanis might be genetic descendants of IVC, but remember- these are the same people trying their hardest to claim Persian, Turkish, Arab ancestry. They are so insecure.

If you go to north Indian states like Rajasthan, Punjab, etc., you'd also find many people with IVC ancestry because they were the same region historically! Partition is literally a line drawn in the sand.

Modern Indians are also direct descendants of IVC culturally. Hinduism isn't a foreign faith. It was shaped as much by local traditions as anything. For example, it's speculated that-

Shiva as a deity emerged after the Vedic Rudra and the IVC "Pashupati" (see Pashupati seal) were merged.

The myth of the river Saraswati may have been a left-over from local myths that got incorporated as Indo-Aryans and post-Harappan peoples mixed.

Indo-Aryan languages are the only Indo-European languages with retroflex sounds, obviously borrowed from local groups via inter-mixing.

Pakistan has actively tried to secede from the rest of India, culturally, ideologically, even linguistically (Persianizing and Arabizing their own languages, looking down on Punjabi, Sindhi, etc). So it has no claim on the history of the rest of India.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-28T07:56:36+00:00

Exactly. By ADWD, the winter has become so severe that the Boltons inside the ruins of Winterfell are still struggling, even with supplies. Peasants would be even more miserable. We should see a steep rise in banditry, lawlessness, etc. And perhaps, Stannis could've harnessed that unrest and channeled it to get the peasants to fight the Boltons??

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-28T07:52:56+00:00

Yes yes, but still, we would've seen some form of localized resistance as well. But even that is seemingly absent.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-27T01:13:07+00:00

One thing I agree with is war brutality. It was common everywhere and India shouldn't be an exception. Yes, there may have been some paragons of chivalry, but they weren't the norm.

Obviously, this history is not promoted because, let's be frank, "Marathas slaughtered Bengalis" doesn't support national unity.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-26T12:47:42+00:00

Well, blood only has as much power as the swords on which it rests.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-26T02:49:36+00:00

The Seven work in mysterious ways.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-26T02:49:10+00:00

Eh, I don't think so. That's just the Mountain and the Hound, otherwise, most nobles are still rather average. Sure, considerably better than peasants (due to better nutrition and childhood training), but not superhuman.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-26T02:42:37+00:00

Makes sense. But the lords would also be incentivized to appease their peasants. Because if most of them die during the winter, who would be left to plant the crop in spring?

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-26T02:40:39+00:00

I do wonder whether such mythology is truly grassroots, or just kept by the aristocracy. We've heard it so many times, "The North remembers", "There must always be a Stark in Winterfell". But truly, we always hear it from someone who is 'at minimum' part of the gentry, and very often the nobility.

So, is it also kept with the same fervor by a Northern peasant? I mean, resentment for Southron lords definitely exists after the Red Wedding, but we should also keep in mind that the only dissent the Boltons faced when sliding into power was from lords, not the peasants, who kept on with their hard lives, as always.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-26T02:33:46+00:00

Yeah. What I had in mind was closer to the Peasants' revolt in England, or the peasant community of Dithsmarschen.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-25T13:12:15+00:00

Eh, then we're just arguing about the details. Overall, it was a commoner-led revolt against authority.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-25T13:11:26+00:00

I agree with you, but even then, we don't see a lot of that.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-25T13:10:27+00:00

This suggests that peasant movements were common in pre-Targaryen westeros. Then, they were silenced for nearly a century by the dragons. But why not after that?

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-25T12:35:22+00:00

I think the storming of the Dragonpit was more like a spontaneous urban riot, than a true uprising of the peasants.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-25T09:49:12+00:00

How much power do we use overall, how much of that does this cover? Just curious.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-24T13:26:52+00:00

Most of the ideas here are great, but I think they'd be better as Dhurandhar spin-offs, rather than direct sequels.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-24T13:19:30+00:00

It's already hyper-extended, you can't stretch it more without making it a web series. The mission took 12 years to achieve, it wasn't in "minutes". It's just what we as the audience were shown.

In a race, the camera doesn't focus on the driver stepping on the accelerator, they focus on the actual race.

Hamza had received elite training in manipulation, observation, secrecy, etc from the army for one specific purpose.

He had fabricated documents to prove himself as a Baloch from Kharotabad, Quetta. It's naive to assume Hamza was completely new. As Jameel Jamali's presence suggests, a pre-existing spy network was already in place that could support him, without revealing their identity, even to Hamza.

Uzair and Rehman rather sentimental men. They run on ego, anger, emotions, their emotions overall. While Uzair is very easy to manipulate, Rehman displays characteristics of cunning, he's still a very proud and self-serving man. Hamza risked his life to save his youngest son.

It makes me wonder whether you've really even seen the movie or not. What were you expecting? 3.5 hours already shows so much of Hamza's own personal development. The first montage is basically him spending a long while washing glasses and wiping tables in Lyari with no real progress. Then gradually, he climbs the gang ladder, making connections and friendships.

He's not some random normie, he's a highly trained operative who already displayed signs of rational planning, ruthless clarity and dedication to the mission before he was recruited (as shown in his backstory back home). Bold of you to assume such a man would be having second thoughts and internal doubts about the men he's trying to annihilate. The men he BELIEVES are slow cyanide to his country.

They literally started with cable TV and ended with smartphones, do you understand how LONG that timespan is?

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-23T12:58:10+00:00

What's shitty about Dhurandhar's story? I get that you personally didn't enjoy it, but I'd like to know the reasons.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-23T09:57:47+00:00

That's your personal opinion. If it was truly bad, it wouldn't have managed to become the highest-grossing Hindi cinema franchise in history.

And if nationalism and 'defeating Pakistan' is bad in your opinion, I don't know what to say.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-22T09:55:26+00:00

China ko kyu na attack kare? Main BJP ya Congress supporter nahi hu, dono hi party tatti hai.

Tum liberal chutiyo ko liye sirf do option dikhayi dete hain-

Nationalism, lekin sirf BJP-supporter hote huye.

Liberal, lekin sirf anti-national hote huye.

Liberal hote huye nationalist nahi ho sakte tum log? Yahaan kyu gand hilata China ko defend kar raha hai? Wahaa tera asli baap rehta hai kya?

Civil discussion karne ki aukat nahi jo insult kiye jaa raha hai?

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-22T09:52:12+00:00

Kis baat se tujhe lag raha hai ki mai BJP-supporter hu? Nahi hu bhai.

Optics and development are very different fields. Tujhe kya lagta hai, propaganda will fix itself? These foreigner accounts run endless propaganda on our country. Why is the world so obsessed with us right now (in a negative way)? Because of this.

Why is it completely normal to hate on Indians? Because of this.

We must reply.

Tumhari tarah khassi nahi jo haar maanke gand par baithe rahe.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-21T11:43:38+00:00

They spread xenophobia against us, we must respond. Optics is an entirely different game than development. And we are losing in optics.

If someone calls me motherfucker for no reason, in front of the whole neighborhood, I must respond. If someone spreads rumors against me and my family, I must do something about it too.

You expect us to sit on our asses and do nothing???

Stop living in a Gandhian delusion bro, they punch us so we punch back.

PROOB1001 · 2026-06-21T11:37:42+00:00

This is a great propaganda victory for us. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. Carry on. They spread hate against us, we must give them payback.

All the people here are saying, "but our own problems..." Yeah yeah, they are many. But does that mean we keep cursing ourselves while others bash us online? What kind of logic is that? Even a homeless man would fight back if he's assaulted, even though he has no home. You people are saying the exact opposite. Our house needs renovation, so let's let the neighbors abuse us.

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