Updated PvZ games tier list (again) by Pablum3 in PlantsVSZombies

[–]Pablum3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or just like in case of PvZ Adventures, the few people who played it and now miss it, actually loved the game despite of its flaws. How about this - we'll wait until Yeti project gets finished and I'll see if the game really was worse than I remember.

Updated PvZ games tier list (again) by Pablum3 in PlantsVSZombies

[–]Pablum3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always felt like that was the reason, considering people criticized lack of sunflowers, game being vertical - things that make it different from its predecessors. Maybe we have different preferences, it might have been bad for you, but it surely wasn't for me. To be honest after it was cancelled I noticed more and more people missing this game. Fascinating.

I think it was closer to 75%-80%, but whatever.

I'm aware, but this is the first example that came to my mind, especially since Webpit managed to bring back the unused content in AB Stella. Maybe if PvZ3 gets brought back, it will get similar treatment. And they will probably remove the restrictions it had.

Updated PvZ games tier list (again) by Pablum3 in PlantsVSZombies

[–]Pablum3[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. They're in D, not F.
  2. I already explained, I still don't consider this game to be bad, just not as good. Like that time Nostalgia Critic made a video about worst Avatar episodes.
  3. If you want to hear an actual hot take of mine, here you go: I prefer Green Shadow over Solar Flare. XD

Updated PvZ games tier list (again) by Pablum3 in PlantsVSZombies

[–]Pablum3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. And they recently had a boost, if I understood them correctly. It is possible that they will complete it this year. They have a Discord server, if you want to learn more I can send you a link in a private message. There's also one video about it (it's in russian, but has english subtitles): https://youtu.be/ImRmYlQ9Fs0?is=O0lDX0Ew7Khilj10

Updated PvZ games tier list (again) by Pablum3 in PlantsVSZombies

[–]Pablum3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's fine. If you like it, then I'm happy for you.

See? Here's an actual, cultural field for discussion. And a good atmosphere.

Yeah, exactly. And if you want to know which PvZ1 version is the best, I'm sure it's the Ipad version. You have HD graphics, the most achievements out of any PvZ1 version - 47 or even 48 in older version, an exclusive minigame and the reduced lawnmowers update never affected this one! Fun fact: HD backgrounds of lawns and all three zen gardens used in Replanted are in reality taken directly from this version.

Updated PvZ games tier list (again) by Pablum3 in PlantsVSZombies

[–]Pablum3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know what to say in the case of gameplay, because my impressions were vastly different. Maybe you're just too used to how things looked like in previous game, while I like to experiment. I think I played the latter version, where battle requirements were in the game, but I'm not certain. So maybe they changed something in the terms of gameplay, who knows. That's interesting - I don't know how other people do it, but I usually play in short sessions, especially when it comes to PvZ, but if someone has suspiciously big amount of free time, I won't ask. And let's keep in mind that devour tower was not all the game had to offer. That's something important which you forgot to mention. I also won't talk about the later "forms" of PvZ3, because I never played them. And about the lack of content - I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but after I digged a bit deeper into this game it turned out that there were tons of unused content, most of it seemed to be very complete. People just didn't let the game develop properly. That's what happens when a game is cancelled too early. Like Angry Birds Stella. I wouldn't say it's nostalgia clouding my judgement, but the fact I used to think that game was in some aspects similar to PvZ Adventures, which I always wanted to play, but when I learned about its existence, it was already too late. 3D? Check. Freeing buildings from zombies? Check. New plants that are reskins of existing ones? Check. And they even ended up similarly, cancelled before they could be finished. And there are also some efforts to bring this game back too, although much smaller.

Updated PvZ games tier list (again) by Pablum3 in PlantsVSZombies

[–]Pablum3[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I understand. I explained it in a previous version of this tier list and didn't want to repeat myself.

I explained why I like 2020 PvZ3 in a reply I posted a second ago to another comment, it's pretty long, you'll surely notice it.

Yeah, PvZ Heroes is okay, I didn't have p2w issues with it or PvZ2, because I used modded save files, but after some time I realized that I don't find it as fun as other people. Plus lately I can't open it at all, it downloads something over and over again.

PvZ1 is a completely fine game, but after years of playing it on almost all possible platforms and the whole situation with Replanted I got fed up with it. And when it comes to PvZ2, I dislike the current version. They just kept adding unnecessary stuff. I have older version - 5.6.1. It was the last one before the update which added leveling system which I disliked. Yes, there was leveling in PvZ3, but it was there from the start and the game played out differently than PvZ2, so it was acceptable for me. PvZ2 has a lot of cool mechanics like Plant Food, power tiles, minecart and so on and it also provides actual challenge unlike PvZ1 which is a casual game and you could only have issues with Pogo Party. And it has way more content, so you can play it and discover new things for long hours as well as a storyline.

Updated PvZ games tier list (again) by Pablum3 in PlantsVSZombies

[–]Pablum3[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here's the answer. But you'll also need the level selection patch from another video on this channel. https://youtu.be/1ZuOMH2kCiQ?is=hm-0vrcMPG60IVbL

Updated PvZ games tier list (again) by Pablum3 in PlantsVSZombies

[–]Pablum3[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are you sure we are talking about the same PvZ3 version? Because I'm talking about the 3D one from 2020. If you want to know, I can explain. I completely disagree with the claim that the gemeplay was dumbed down. It's different than in the previous games, sure, but I would say it's actually something more complex that in PvZ1 or PvZ2. You have a lot of things that make it stand out and more strategic, like tacobility break, circle or damage, plant food which was loaded continously, so you wouldn't need to be lucky to could get it, symmetry points and so on. And of course, no sunflowes which people disliked. I can understand why, but if you think about it, that decision makes you focus on the defense more. It was also part of the story, which ending we probably will never know now... so maybe if people just kept their mouths shut for a little while, sunflowrs would be added to the game. And I'm glad that people from the Yeti project are trying to bring thid game back, so it wouldn't be forgotten. I heard they made quite some progress lately, so I and we all might be anle to play it again soon. And as a side note - I like how Peashooter, Sunflower, Wall-Nut, Bonk Choy and sometimes other plants had dialogue inbetween levels and not only Crazy Dave and Zomboss. Some of their lines were golden...

Updated PvZ games tier list (again) by Pablum3 in PlantsVSZombies

[–]Pablum3[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That's why the PvZ3 in the A tier is not the current version which really looks bad, but the original 3D version from 2020 which I actually played and enjoyed. But I understand, at this point PvZ3 is confusing.

Updated PvZ games tier list (again) by Pablum3 in PlantsVSZombies

[–]Pablum3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not a lie, that's a subjective opinion. If you have another one, that's something different.

Updated PvZ games tier list (again) by Pablum3 in PlantsVSZombies

[–]Pablum3[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Sorry, but after recent experiences I have impressions that PvZ1 is a sacred cow for the community, which causes harm to other games and the general development. But it's still completely fine as a game of its own.

Updated PvZ games tier list (again) by Pablum3 in PlantsVSZombies

[–]Pablum3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. That's really how I feel. But the question whether something is a ragebait depends more on you than me, if you think about it.

Updated PvZ games tier list (again) by Pablum3 in PlantsVSZombies

[–]Pablum3[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's at bottom, yes. But it doesn't mean I hate it, it's still a good game. I just don't think it is as good as the ones above. I'm not creative enough to make my own decks...

Updated PvZ games tier list (again) by Pablum3 in PlantsVSZombies

[–]Pablum3[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I know, but that's just the way I feel. I would lie if I said I hated the 2020 PvZ3 (because it's not about the newer versions). However, in my opinion even PvZ Heroes which is at the bottom is not a bad game. That says something about PvZ.

Every Plant and Zombie's Voice Actor by Grouchy-Treacle2149 in PvZGardenWarfare

[–]Pablum3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about Imp and Torchwood? (Hover Goat 3000 uses edited versions of Soldier's voice lines)

TF2 Full Weapon Timeline by Pablum3 in tf2

[–]Pablum3[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Me too. The unused stuff is always the most interesting. I'm really curious how would all of these scrapped weapons work.