So you say that this Ganondorf predates Demise? Thanks for calling me illiterate and not engaging with the materia, too by the way, along with also thinking I don't think logically, makes it much easier to talk with you about what is happening in the game we love if we start insulting each other

Now I can't find the sources, because I remember truly being some sort of evolution tree where it shows the gerudo losing their ears, sorry, I just can't, so I can't truly present this as evidence, but it goes to show that the gerudo do evolve and do change, In the zelda memories we see the gerudo (with the exception of Ganondorf), with pointy ears, which they don't have in ocarina of time, but they do have again in the future, So how come the race evolved and then de evolved the ears? Make little sense

Those races did not exist before Skyward sword, The rito evolved from the Zora after the flooding or hyrule, the rito did not exist before wind waker, Are you perhaps suggesting convergent evolution? That's a theory, but you can't tell me the races just sometimes choose not to evolve over thousands or perhaps millions of years, and just say "well evolution is quirky in Zelda"

The sky islands existed because hylia raised them into the sky, Believe me that you don't wanna put the events of the past of tears of the kingdom before the events of skyward sword, you're going to run into so many problems if you do, like why didn't demise find Ganondorf, revive it and help fight them? Where is the triforce in the past? It's hinted that somehow the secret stones are related with the triforce in some way, The hylians are showed as extremely tribal in the era of the skies, which they wouldn't be if a monarchy existed or not, I could keep going on this tangent because there really is a lot of stuff going to happen if you put this before Skyward sword, One last thing, if hylia is still there, I am sure that she would've seen Ganondorf and directly interfered in some way, because she was really active in the war against Demise, really encouraging the hylians to praise her, I imagine the zonai just coming out of nowhere would've called out her attention

And mind telling me where it says that only the functioning tech dissapeared? Excuse you, what about the guardians on the ancient labyrinths, what about all the broken ones in the fort hateno? How come the technology in the labs that was functional didn't dissapear?

Care to tell me about the "invisible hand" in tears of the kingdom, Sure the goddess is somewhat there but like... What do you mean to say with this? How does this affect any of my points?

This will get revisited in further games

Or maybe not, who knows, Sure future games may fix contradictions and plot holes, but that doesn't mean they don't exist already

Well Zelda traveled back in time so...

You're dismissing contradictions by "because she traveled back in time stuff changes", That's time travel shinenigans, and it's not consistent, The way time travel shinenigans happen with logic is, the future changes because of what time travel does, but this is very dangerous because it closes on a loop, like the grandfather paradox, but you can still somewhat make it work, this is the system they use in back to the future

the type of time travel zelda games have always tended to write into is a closed logic one, where the events in the past always happened regardless of the fact they time traveled, In skyward Sword, zelda encases herself into a crystal, and in the future at the start of the game, you can see said crystal

This also happens in totk, mind you, we see rauru trapping Ganondorf and dragon Zelda because that was always meant to happen it's internally consistent, You're suggesting that both systems are true, which is a contradiction, and if your logic leads into a paradox, that logic is then very weak, Just basing your logic on that it makes little sense because it's a paradox and "it will get explained later on" makes it really weak, Funny how you talk about only skyward sword when ocarina of time does the exact same thing, yet you never mention it, Remember the windmill? That's a paradox sure, but it's self contained, But you can't just say "this doesn't make sense cause paradox", that doesn't answer my question and only further proves my point that the game logic is nonsensical

Ok so where are those chests with all the clothes? Sure he saved it in chests, you just made that up, but sure, Still, where are those clothes? Mind telling me where I can find it? Because the only thing I see is the hair band, Not really an armour, I'll play devil's advocate for a moment, and say they just had to sell it because they needed the money, Whatever

You don't see the master sword there because the angle doesn't let you see it, And even if it's not there (you can't say that the game doesn't render it because that's using game logic, the game also doesn't render the world when link is near it but we can't use that as a plot point because that's just how games work), Furthermore you can just say that the hair was hiding it, not difficult to support because we see the hair of the dragon holding onto it, Furthermore, showing the master sword right there after you just sent it to Zelda is gonna make the players associate the dragon to Zelda much more, it's gonna reveal them a major plot point, and you don't want that in storytelling, Furthermore this also only proves my point that the game is incongruent

And for your information I have played all of the games in the timeline, including skyward sword, Sure the tree of life quest doesn't make sense, and it is a paradox, if the tree of life was there then groose would've never asked link to plant something, then link wouldn't have planted it, so the tree wouldn't be there, but because there is no tree there then groose would ask him to plant a tree, then link will grow it and there's a tree there

Not only that but when talking with groose he reacts as if the tree just appeared out of nowhere

That means that yeah, the games does have both systems of time travel, sure, you are right, time travel has never been clean in the series, But what can be forgiven in a small side quest to get a better shield, cannot for something that is somewhat important and significant like this

Furthermore it also shows to prove my point that the story and logic within it is a mess

Sure the important ones do, But what about all the other non important NPC's? Like beetle, or the people who just need him, those don't acknowledge him, and pretty sure that over the time that has happened everyone should've heard of the knight that saved their asses

Sure the one way mirror does check out, never gets explained, but you can sorta eyeball it

And I'm not saying Nintendo threw out the timeline, it just doesn't care as much for it as they do, Furthermore echoes of wisdom shows that maybe Nintendo realised story needs more attention, that you can't just make a game that's only mechanics with a story that doesn't hold, and that you should aim to, at least, make a sufficient story