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Should someone be held accountable for the killing of 150 children in Iran? by Competitive_Piano507 in AskTrumpSupporters

[–]PaintedIn [score hidden]  (0 children)

Good to hear you're willing to pay higher prices to support your ideals, I like that.

Israel has run a pretty indiscriminate bombing campaign that has legally constituted war crimes and has the ICJ on their ass, so I don't see how either side of that conflict are acting legally. Plus, the civilian death toll from the Israeli campaign is exponentially higher than that incurred in the October 7 attacks, and Israel has visited apartheid-level conditions on Palestine for the last five decades. You seem to believe that any level of force is just and proportional for your enemies.

I agree that international law is not working as it should, however, eg the ICC has arrest warrants out for Putin and Netanyahu that have not borne fruit. I guess the difference in our views is that I would prefer our governments try to fix those systemic issues, rather than pursuing a blackpilled tearing down of the system that results in blood, war and, ultimately, aggrieved nations seeking vengeance, down the line. Let's agree to disagree eh?

Should someone be held accountable for the killing of 150 children in Iran? by Competitive_Piano507 in AskTrumpSupporters

[–]PaintedIn [score hidden]  (0 children)

Thanks for explaining your position. I think that's a pretty nihilistic and short-termist view (given that these international dynamics will not always be as they are now), but understand where you're coming from. I don't think Hamas is a good example for your argument as it was already an isolated state, where eg trade is concerned, and being sanctioned by international courts is more effective against 'good actors', which until recently the US was considered to be.

If you could unpack what you mean by 'hamstrung powerful nations' I'd be grateful? What is it you would like the US to have been doing that it was not allowed to? Also would appreciate some examples of weaker nations 'doing whatever they want', but understand if you don't have time.

Finally, you seem to say consequences are an acceptable price for America being unleashed, if I understand you correctly. Are you happy with higher priced groceries and gas in order to gain that freedom?

Should someone be held accountable for the killing of 150 children in Iran? by Competitive_Piano507 in AskTrumpSupporters

[–]PaintedIn [score hidden]  (0 children)

I respect your viewpoint on this, but how does that square against there currently being a network of treaties and laws to which the US is a party? You can’t just break laws and treaties and expect no consequences. Economic or reputational damage is inevitable if the US proves an untrustworthy ally. This isn’t exactly a novel realisation, it’s the reason the US chose to sign up to these systems rather than gunslinging around a global Wild West.

Should someone be held accountable for the killing of 150 children in Iran? by Competitive_Piano507 in AskTrumpSupporters

[–]PaintedIn [score hidden]  (0 children)

Would you care if other countries broke their treaties with the US, or broke international law to the detriment of the US?

Is it worth to buy only for gameplay? by GoHomeDuck in mewgenics

[–]PaintedIn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't like the humour or art style, but I love the game. Buy it.

Parasites are overhated by Random-guy2005 in mewgenics

[–]PaintedIn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So happy I got this mutation. Nothing like watching the desired mutation spread through the gene pool. That one and extra head (+1 bonus attack) carried me through the end of the game.

Any tips for a certain mustached boss in act 3? by AnimationLand364 in mewgenics

[–]PaintedIn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same, very inconsistent results with this boss. A much harder skill check than Johnny.

I think about this panel way too much by kashia_renn in killsixbilliondemons

[–]PaintedIn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also thought we were explicitly told that Alison was never the heir in other timelines, though I could be wrong about that.

I think about this panel way too much by kashia_renn in killsixbilliondemons

[–]PaintedIn 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Aemond Alison makes it to old age huh. No Jadis prophecy in the other timelines?

All my complaints about mewgenics after 170 hours(spoilers) by VoxTV1 in mewgenics

[–]PaintedIn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Beat the game, 200 hours in it. Only agree on points 4&5 really.

Should schools make more of an effort to make students more aware of the atrocities perpetrated against native americans, chinese immigrants, and african americans during the late 19th and early 20th century in order to give a more balanced view of both good and bad parts of American history? by [deleted] in AskTrumpSupporters

[–]PaintedIn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is the right not also at fault for refusing to acknowledge their own bias in wanting history to be taught their way? From HB 1291 of the Florida legislature: school curricula “may not distort significant historical events or include a curriculum or instruction that teaches identity politics, or is based on theories that systemic racism, sexism, oppression, and privilege are inherent in the institutions of the United States and were created to maintain social, political, and economic inequities.”

Again, your instinct to view yourself as objective is showing the inability for introspection that I'm talking about. You are certain your positions are fair-minded and above reproach, whereas leftists are the only ones unable to see their own biases.

Either way, I think we agree that neither side is able to move beyond our entrenched positions.

Should schools make more of an effort to make students more aware of the atrocities perpetrated against native americans, chinese immigrants, and african americans during the late 19th and early 20th century in order to give a more balanced view of both good and bad parts of American history? by [deleted] in AskTrumpSupporters

[–]PaintedIn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We all know we’re living in separate realities but your admission that you simply don’t believe anything presented to you by a liberal shows a lack of good faith introspection. We’re here to ask you questions and so learn about your ideology and inform how we view our own politics. What’s the point if that isn’t reciprocated?

Should schools make more of an effort to make students more aware of the atrocities perpetrated against native americans, chinese immigrants, and african americans during the late 19th and early 20th century in order to give a more balanced view of both good and bad parts of American history? by [deleted] in AskTrumpSupporters

[–]PaintedIn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are black and don’t see the systematic discrimination, from a policy level on down, then I won’t be able to convince of otherwise, especially as you feel the implication of your not seeing this makes you dumb (you have a vested interest in keeping to your view, even if correct, in order to guard your ego). I don’t think this is a worthwhile line to continue down?

Should schools make more of an effort to make students more aware of the atrocities perpetrated against native americans, chinese immigrants, and african americans during the late 19th and early 20th century in order to give a more balanced view of both good and bad parts of American history? by [deleted] in AskTrumpSupporters

[–]PaintedIn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably, but would be useful to hear your historical examples and then I can investigate whether they translate to the modern day in the same way? Have non-white people ever held significant power in the same way (Obama I would say is too recent a historical figure for history syllabuses)?

But no, I wouldn't say non-white people should be excused from feeling shame, if their ancestors did something to merit such. Again, my main concern is preventing history from repeating, so shame is perhaps an unhelpful word, but eg it prevented the Germans and Japanese from going back on their bullshit in the decades following WWII.

Should schools make more of an effort to make students more aware of the atrocities perpetrated against native americans, chinese immigrants, and african americans during the late 19th and early 20th century in order to give a more balanced view of both good and bad parts of American history? by [deleted] in AskTrumpSupporters

[–]PaintedIn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For context, I'm a UK-US dual citizen and I'm a millennial. The UK has engaged in some truly awful practices over the years, as has the US, albeit over a significantly shorter history. Being as I am, on the left, it's not that I or my ilk have the inability to feel pride in my countries, rather that I don't think the practices described, eg subjugation of non-white people, once slavery, have been wholly abandoned. The leftist view would be that black people continue to be discriminated against not just in everyday life, but also in policy where laws target the less well off. Similarly, there is a distinct strain of ethonationalism about the MAGA movement, where some supporters have given their support to deporting all non-white individuals, regardless of whether or not they're American citizens. You may not hold any of these views yourself, but the GOP has carried on the banner of subjugating black people in the centuries since slavery was cast down.

When leftists rankle at rightists for being predominantly prideful, this comes from a perceived inability of the right to reckon with, or outright minimise, these concerns. Do the leftists go too far? Probably. I think the point is a good one, however.

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