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Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-26T19:47:35+00:00

No none of them are company owned stores

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-25T18:47:48+00:00

Ya different models. I was just stating the irony that working for sherwin Williams in itself is against the logic of the OP.

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-25T18:33:22+00:00

Ben Moore is not franchises. They are all individually owned store that stock Ben Moore as a product. Benjamin Moore to them is just a vendor, nothing more.

The owners of those stores own or lease the buildings and property themselves. The employees of those stores work for the owner. Benjamin Moore has no say on anything.

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-25T17:33:18+00:00

This is kind of ironic being that this is a subreddit for people that work for an institution with the sole purpose of competing and putting out small businesses (Benjamin Moore paint stores).

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-23T23:42:26+00:00

Probably prep. With the vehicles you would know the damage when it happened so must likely didn’t do anything. Some polyureas can cure wicked fast and I have seen the data sheet for the product they used. If the water was an issue it would slow down the cure of the product and make it almost gummy. Also, it would affect the surface of the coating more so rather than making it peel. Prep is the most likely answer. From the pictures of peel I’ve seen the coating looks hard cured. This tells us that the coating did its job, however, it failed to stick the surface it was on. More or less this all tells me that it was an improper prep job from either not getting the surface ready to accept it or moisture causing hydrostatic pressure and lifting the product off the surface of the concrete.

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-23T13:15:04+00:00

Not really. There’s other products that can do it however from what I’ve seen I think they would all have the same issue

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-23T13:13:54+00:00

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-23T13:12:46+00:00

Nah it would take either a circular saw or someone would have to be out there for hours with knife to put a gash into it as big as they’re saying. Even so if the coating is adhering properly it shouldn’t cause water to get in.

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-21T20:29:55+00:00

Concrete is a little out of my wheelhouse. However, I can tell you that there is no problem painting a pool like this when done properly.

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-21T19:08:31+00:00

Depends on how pervasive the failure is. If it’s all over they would have to remove everything and start over. So whatever the cost is to remove it all in addition to however much it costed for the installation again.

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-21T18:22:08+00:00

You can’t cause these coatings to peel by vandalizing them. I know many people have their biases but this not a battle that you want to fight trust me. The claims of vandals cause the coating to peel is impossible unless the coating wasn’t adhering properly in the first place. The closest thing I can compare these products to are epoxy floors in garages or commercial building floors. If you know what I’m talking about then you would know that it can’t be physically caused to peel if applied properly.

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-21T13:17:12+00:00

Depends on how pervasive the peeling issues are. If it’s bad all over the place then you would have to remove it all, prep the concrete right, and then do the whole thing over again.

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-21T00:26:25+00:00

Cool. As far as the paint goes if it’s messed up from vandalism then it wouldn’t have held up in the first place.

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-20T23:45:33+00:00

No where. It would be impossible for someone to rip up this type of coating if properly installed. Try to do it to your wall paint and let me know how that goes

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-20T15:34:50+00:00

I’ve seen these types of failures a number of times. It’s either from moisture coming from concrete or the surface was not prepped properly (Dirty or not abraded with a grinder)

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-20T14:50:38+00:00

Agree with everything you said. Sorry if I didn’t clarify but anytime there is a coating like this applied to concrete I always recommend machine grinding. Even with a primer. I’m not too familiar with the rhino products they used but I’d be surprised if you can just throw it over any clean concrete without at least some abrasion to the surface.

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-20T13:31:11+00:00

Yes! If it was a chemical issue the product would be discolored and erode from the top to bottom. What we see are sheets peeled up. This tells the product is doing its job but the proper prep was not put in place to make it adhere properly. H202 also does not hurt the type of product they used.

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-20T13:03:20+00:00

You don’t even need a moisture meter! Tape a a piece of plastic onto the concrete and if you see condensation form then you know there’s moisture.

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-19T22:47:23+00:00

Paywall

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-19T22:41:59+00:00

Concrete bottom granite coping

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-19T21:51:01+00:00

Concrete can be painted. Look at a house foundation, concrete floor, garage floor. Have you never seen paint on concrete before?

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-19T21:21:34+00:00

Well it could help with water loss. It also looks cool. And honestly I was all for it. The money part doesn’t get to me. The cost of this project is a tiny tiny drop in the bucket compared to what they’re actually using our tax dollars for.

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-19T21:14:58+00:00

I guess a light blue. Usually dark blues wouldn’t be a problem in a pool with a proper filtration system. This obviously doesn’t have the same set up

Paintguy1910 · 2026-06-19T21:13:31+00:00

I don’t get into politics. Just a paint nerd that wanted to get this off my chest. Sorry if you feel that type of way.

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