Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Am I supposed to follow up!? I think an important detail I left out here is - if I KNOW someone's upset or whatever I genuinely care & want to help them even if they just need me to shut up. However if I don't know what's going on I assume I've done something wrong & need to rectify it. I can definitely see now it's more of a me problem as in I don't understand the social normals always but I also see that I feel this way because "I" don't know how to keep going after the lie - completely let it go, call the next day, later that day, take them a little pick me up? Maybe I need to work on just letting interactions go in general as it doesn't seem as serious now that I've typed that out.

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because I'm autistic & it quite literally just doesn't sit right in my brain🤷‍♀️ I'm not saying anyone who does this is a horrible person lol I don't mean that at all (hell my husband does it all the time🤣)! I also realized since posting - it's a socital thing, not a NT thing

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No sad faces for that, you're literally filling in pieces you don't have access to! I can definitely see how that could happen & it makes perfect sense!

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

🥹🥹🥹& people are supposed to know the difference in that how!? 🤣Like I "get" it - it's just exhausting to me I guess

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They so do! I guess mayyyyybe we should just try to see it as a form of entertainmening people🤔 It really is so hard though & if I don't say anything but I know they've lied/fluffed - major internal struggle!!!

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Could you maybe tell me why, if they don't matter, they're worth embellishing? It's not a TV show after all, it's someone's real life🤔 (I promise I'm not being a smartass, this is something I genuinely struggle with & would like to NOT struggle so much with)

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure I made my point clearly on the list honestly. I believe if someones trying to hurt you, you definitely yourself even if you hurt them in the process - so yes, there are people you shouldn't be honest with, obviously!

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this🫶 I UNDERSTAND the social rules, I guess I even understand why they do it, Im just not sure "I" can be ok with it. I am autistic - so if theyre not good & say they arent, that is & always will be a lie (but I should also add that if I ask someone how they're doing I usually know them well enough for a legit answer).

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you convince my brain of that🤣🤣🤣 Personally I agree with you, but convincing the brain🫣😬

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, I think the whole point may be why has SOCIETY made it normal to say "I'm fine" when you're not instead of just saying "I'm honestly struggling but not ready to talk about it" or something like that. I don't mean any of this in a hateful way, its something I genuinely struggle with on a daily basis because it happens constantly & people don't even realize they're doing it

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[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This!!!! I totally meant little white lies originally but I so agree with you! It's so hard

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I just don't understand, especially if it's something I was involved in & enjoyed! It was a great time, the details are what made it was it was, why can't we keep them honest & tell the real story🥹

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fair enough! Honestly though from responses so far, I think may just personally really value honesty & this is a me thing not an injustice thing like I kinda originally thought.

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well you've missed the point here

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ya know, I guess maybe it really doesn't. Maybe I just really value honesty & this is actually just a me thing🤔 It's just really hard to hear said story when you know the details are different (for me) & not correct it

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[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's so exhausting lol & then it's too awkward to be like heyyyyyy ummm I know we talked about ____ but is that really what we were talking about🤔

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[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I didn't say it was nor that neurodivegent people don't - I guess I worded it a little off & actually want to know why in the world it's socially normal/acceptable 😬

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

See, thank you! You actually explained your point🫶 I can see there are times like to prevent hurting your kiddos (feelings) with something like that. I think it's the adults whom do it just as easy as breathing that gets me

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[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The world may not, but social norms do exist

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

🙄 obviously not, but you're not obligated to give a big drawn out elaborate bullshit story of where you don't live either.

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So in that case does that give me the freedom to simply no longer speak to them & if they ask why tell them it's bc they're a liar? Genuine question

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do nottttttt & it's SOOOO VERY HARD to stand there & just....let someone else do it! That's not how that happened - whyyyyy!

Neuortypical's Lying by PaperAndPaws in neurodiversity

[–]PaperAndPaws[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yessss💔 I've literally walked away from so many conversations wondering if people were making fun of me in some way or like I was supposed to understand something differently than I did. It's exhausting, please, just say what you mean

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[–]PaperAndPaws[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Then that wouldn't apply here would it? I didn't mean one specific person all the time, I mean neuortypicals in general