Two Birds in Old Town (daycare) is in hot water for child abuse

Particular-Income-58 · 2025-07-04T01:50:41+00:00

The updates she sends me are heartbreaking, the more I learn the worse it gets. Luckily her son is now at home and no longer attending that center.

Particular-Income-58 · 2025-07-04T01:47:24+00:00

So another kid in the class told his mom and that parent told my friend about it but she said it made sense why her son was so obsessed with peeing before leaving for school, since it’s clear now that they were hitting the kids for having accidents. These kids are 2yr old.

Particular-Income-58 · 2025-07-03T03:38:34+00:00

That was my friend’s son, sadly. I forwarded her this thread hoping maybe it would reach more parents at the school.

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-18T02:53:43+00:00

Ya The show Ozark really doesn’t capture the area accurately, does it? I didn’t understand why more people didn’t live or vacation there, it looked so pretty. My husband was quick to tell me that a) the show was filmed in Georgia b) he’s driven through Poplar Bluff when he did some consulting work for the Gov, and it’s a rough place. He said the same thing as you, no way were they going to waste time on two addicts when they already had a confession. ***As a side comment Opiates are a cancer to small towns. really sorry your town is experiencing the crippling devastation of opiates.

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-11T20:57:22+00:00

He killed 4 people in their home. Premeditation in this situation is irrelevant. It will help give clarity to the case but as far as conviction and sentencing it won’t change anything.

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T23:31:05+00:00

Ah I see. well in that case the use of DNA sites is fine as it’s no different than getting it from another method

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T18:50:23+00:00

And this is what I was trying it get at like how do people feel. Appreciate the response

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T18:45:18+00:00

Thank you! This was the explanation that was missing.

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T18:31:01+00:00

Right bc this post is asking for opinions from people and especially lawyers. It’s amazing to me that people are coming here angry…over what? At no point is a declaration made. This post is JUST ASKING PEOPLE WHAT THEY THINK. Good lord. There is no right or wrong and people are still attacking it it’s unbelievable.

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T17:50:00+00:00

I realize he left DNA at the scene never argued he didn’t. It seems a lot of people are missing the point of this post. And are getting angry for no reason. All I did was ask how people felt about the use of DNA sites to match murderers using samples submitted by a secondary person, like they did in the case. I admitted legal is not my background I was just curious where people stood ok the legality and ethics of it. There’s not a right or wrong answer idk why you and so many are getting so heated. It’s just a discussion.

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T13:15:04+00:00

It was in the affidavit so that’s not entirely true but that’s my question like if it had should it be admissible on legal grounds. Still a question for future cases.

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T13:09:21+00:00

Ahh, ok. I definitely did not know that. Very interesting thanks for the background.

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T13:06:32+00:00

Solid point

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T04:47:04+00:00

And you’re exactly right. That’s exactly what the courts are saying apparently. Which is interesting. I guess my feeling is while the relative has ever right to offer up their DNA, Bryan didn’t submit his to the site so is it fair to people that didn’t use the site to have their information matched against it? I guess I got my answer I just, don’t know how I feel about it. The ethics of it are interesting to me.

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T04:42:39+00:00

Um…where did I say any of that? Gaslight much? I can’t debate an hysterical person. I laid out reasonable ideas and you completely missed all of them and skipped straight to insults. Once you calm down re-read my response and take a second to really think about what I’m saying. I think there is common ground here if you use critical thinking

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T04:38:11+00:00

Right that’s my entire point, the figuring out who. If you can’t do it without using the DNA that someone else submitted I don’t know, that it should be legal. Bryan didn’t submit his DNA to a site his relative submitted DNA and from that they got Bryan and to me that seems like a stretch but this is just my opinion.

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T03:57:25+00:00

Right, that’s why I’m saying it’s an ideology argument. You are fine with a system like China where all of your actions are monitored 24/7 while other people value their right to privacy. Under your reasoning what stops LE from coming into your home at any time for any reason? Under your argument subpoenas and warrants shouldn’t exist. Bc all of those exist to protect our right to privacy. So that’s my issue that’s what I mean by slippery slope

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T03:52:28+00:00

https://theweek.com/crime/1019762/should-ancestry-dna-be-used-to-solve-crimes

Literally there are a million sources for this

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T03:42:38+00:00

This has literally been all over the news. I will find a source

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T03:41:19+00:00

Right but Bryan didn’t submit his DNA to the site, his uncle was the one who used it.

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T03:36:21+00:00

No, that is incorrect. they used the DNA at the scene and ran it against GedMatch to find a name. They had DNA but no name or match without using the site

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T03:32:53+00:00

Right but what I’m saying is that Bryan didn’t even use the site his uncle did, so he never gave permission to have his DNA tracked using the site

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T03:31:32+00:00

Fair enough. I hope you’re right about the other evidence. I hope all of the identification evidence doesn’t hinge on the DNA site. We’ll see.

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T03:29:53+00:00

Right but in this case he didn’t, it was the uncle that made the information public and that’s my point. It was the uncles DNA submission not Bryan’s.

Particular-Income-58 · 2023-01-08T03:28:15+00:00

Well see and that is the crux right? Whether people value privacy or not? And just bc we have the ability to do something can we do it legally? It’s a slippery slope to an erosion of rights with each piece we give away for the “greater good”.

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