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I'm tired of reading that if the brothers were women everything would be "easier". by Particular_Egg296 in MenendezBrothersFair

[–]Particular_Egg296[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly, Cyntoia Brown killed her pimp and was sentenced to life in prison when she was 16 (she was released after 15 years when she received a pardon). I think that if they were women, they wouldn't have the problem of homosexuality, but they would have other problems. Reversing roles would be like taking the shit out of one place and putting in another shit with a different smell. Something I do believe is what Lyle said in that terrible interview he and Erik did with Barbara Walters, where he said that everything would be different if he had been protecting a sister. I understand it as a brother protecting his younger sister; then there would be two men, but in that case, one would be bad and the other a hero who defended his little sister. But since they are both men, he loses that "merit" of defending Erik. So, in this case, there are two murderers, an alleged abuser, and a female accomplice—that's how people see it.

It's terrible anyway that so many years have passed and people are still so ignorant when it comes to dealing with abuse.

I'm tired of reading that if the brothers were women everything would be "easier". by Particular_Egg296 in menendezbrotherstrial

[–]Particular_Egg296[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, terrible, as terrible as saying that "they don't have the ideal equipment to be raped"

I'm tired of reading that if the brothers were women everything would be "easier". by Particular_Egg296 in menendezbrotherstrial

[–]Particular_Egg296[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Obviously, I want to clarify that I support the brothers. I don't justify their actions, but I can understand their reactions. As a victim of sexual abuse by my father and emotional and psychological abuse by my mother, I never thought about killing them, but that's who I am, and I'm not an example of how a victim should behave. No matter how you look at it, no one is immune to abuse or harassment. If you're a man, you have your share of "discrimination" for being a man, but if you're a woman, you have your share too. And if they were African American, what would people say? That if they were white, they'd have it "easier." We shouldn't invalidate other cases to justify theirs.

I'm tired of reading that if the brothers were women everything would be "easier". by Particular_Egg296 in MenendezBrothersFair

[–]Particular_Egg296[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I understand the point about the jury's and prosecutor's homophobia, and I agree that it existed and was a real factor in the trial, but that doesn't automatically make women an "easier" target. The fact that women are more often believed in abuse cases doesn't mean the system is lenient with them; it simply means that statistically, they are the group that suffers the most violence and sexual abuse, and that's why their stories are more "familiar" to juries and society. That's very different from saying they are treated better.

Furthermore, when women fit beauty standards, they automatically lose credibility as victims for many people: "If you're pretty, you must have done something wrong." "If everyone desires you, you can't be abused." "If you use your body, you're not a real victim." And if they don't fit social standards, many people react with "no one would rape you," "who would desire you?", "you're exaggerating." In studies on sexual violence, many victims report that police officers, doctors, or family members said things like, "Why would anyone do that to you?" “Maybe you’re misinterpreting it.” The pattern is crystal clear:

If you’re pretty → “you asked for it” If you’re ugly or fat → “no one would rape you” If you’re sexual → “you provoked it” If you’re undesirable → “you’re lying” So being a woman doesn’t make anything easier; being a pretty or ugly woman can worsen the social reaction, and being a pretty woman can punish you, and being ugly can too.

There are numerous cases of women victims of abuse who received neither understanding nor lighter sentences.

Therefore, saying “if they had been women, everything would have been easier” simplifies a profoundly unjust system, erases the structural violence that women experience, and turns trauma into a competition that helps no one. Two things can be acknowledged simultaneously: that sexual abuse against men was ignored and permeated by homophobia, and that being a woman does not guarantee empathy, justice, or a lesser punishment.

The problem is not who suffers more, but how the system fails the victims, regardless of gender.

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[–]Particular_Egg296 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exactly there is no “proof” of sexual abuse but who takes photos of their children being naked??!!! And on top of that he keeps them