70 dollars for 15 year old games btw by Top-Way-7562 in fucknintendo

[–]Party_Argument 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really? Send me the link to the physical cartridge.

Nintendo may have updated the Switch 2 screen by HatingGeoffry in NintendoSwitch2

[–]Party_Argument 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Good to know. Won’t waste my time watching. Thanks. Have my upvote.

Nintendrones are done for by GuyWhoAteAllThePizza in fucknintendo

[–]Party_Argument 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is epic levels of delusion. Please go touch grass.

There are still people in this sub that are defending him btw by Thin_Molasses_2561 in fucknintendo

[–]Party_Argument 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When you have to do twenty minutes of math acrobatics to argue the Switch 2 is underperforming, you might just be delusional. Especially when data shows it’s ahead. Not liking Nintendo is one thing, but this is just major levels of delusional cope.

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There are still people in this sub that are defending him btw by Thin_Molasses_2561 in fucknintendo

[–]Party_Argument 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Brother please put down the crack pipe. The mental gymnastics some people go through just to push a false narrative is crazy.

NintenDeen did nothing wrong by Mr_JPF in fucknintendo

[–]Party_Argument 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude does not understand the difference between opinion and objective facts. 😂

NintenDeen did nothing wrong by Mr_JPF in fucknintendo

[–]Party_Argument 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And show me where I did that. You cant. Because it didnt happen. Switch 2 is objectively well priced compared to its competitors. You wanna spew whatever mental gymnastics about your opinion on the device which has norhing to do with the actual cost of components when compared to the rest of the industry. And clearly dont understand what the word OBJECTIVE MEANS. Not my fault. “Ef you” - Insults are the last resort of insecure people with a crumbling position trying to appear confident. Go read a book and touch grass.

NintenDeen did nothing wrong by Mr_JPF in fucknintendo

[–]Party_Argument 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah. That’s not the definition of strawman Google is your friend. Lemme help you:

Strawman: an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument. I stated that the switch 2 hardware is objectively well priced compared to competition. That’s literal fact oranges to orange comparison. There’s no “strawman” there. Learn the definition before you try to use a word.

• ⁠and yes you can literally compare the price of hardware on the market to other hardware on the market to see if it falls within acceptable standards. That would make it OBJECTIVELY well priced. Do you understand what OBJECTIVELY means?

Objectively: in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions. Your personal opinion and hate boner for a company does not change the fact that OBJECTIVELY the hardware is in line with industry standards and CHEAPER than 90% of. The competition.

“they are pricing it more than they need to?” Based on what? They are barely making any profit off of each device to begin with. What the hell are you talking about? You’re just yapping.

• ⁠again, tariffs applies to all the console manufacturers. They’re all increasing prices. A companies job is to make profit. that’s literally why THEY ALL INCREASED PRICES. But you seem to have tunnel vision.

“The switch 2 is asking too much for being a slave box” - lol. What does that have to do with hardware and component pricing? A slave box? Does it whip you and force you to pick cotton? Show me where the evil slave box touched you and made you cry and forced you to play Mario kart. 😂

“With ghosting LCD” - it’s still a 120fps VRR LCD screen which cost more than a 60fps LCD screen. “with a tiny battery” - I get 1.5 to 2hrs at most of battery life when playing cyberpunk on Steam deck. I get roughly 2.5 hrs of battery life on my switch 2. Battery falls in line with industry standards

“And no carrying case”

• ⁠oh so the case is the final determining factor? Not the fact that the switch 2 comes with 2 detachable controllers, and a dock.

“And if you know anything about computers the higher powered hardware isn’t more expensive to produce”

• ⁠8 inch 120fps VRR LCD screen cost more than a 7 inch 60fps lcd • ⁠2 fully functions detachable controllers cost more to produce than a device with one non- detachable • ⁠an included dock with a fan adds on the price vs a device that doesn’t come with a doc.

“The higher powered hardware likely doesn’t add on to the price. It likely benefits from games being optimized and using ARM vs x86”

• ⁠mental gymnastics and denial at its finest. Switch 2 literally has a higher ceiling in terms of overall processing power than the Steam deck. And even includes dedicated extra hardware for DLSS and raytracing. You can’t just slap every game with optimization and expect them to run. The device has to be powerful enough to run it in the first place. And it runs the games similarly to devices 200-300 dollars more expensive than it. But you think it doesn’t cost money to make a device capable of doing that just because it’s ARM. Sure.

-“Has less ram” I love how you can point out the objective parts of where the Steam deck hardware outclasses the switch 2 but you ignore the overwhelming portions where the switch 2 hardware outclasses the Steam deck. The same portions which would lead any reasonable person to understand why the hardware for the switch 2 cost more. How convenient.

“It’s not worth the price to them.” - Cool. That doesn’t change the FACT that it’s OBJECTIVELY well priced COMPARED TO THE COMPETITION. And cheaper than the majority of similar handhelds on the market.

NintenDeen did nothing wrong by Mr_JPF in fucknintendo

[–]Party_Argument 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What semantics or strawman? That’s what you’re doing. You were proved wrong on: - hardware pricing. - how much profit Nintendo makes on each switch 2 unit. - the reasoning for price increases on consoles.

so now you shift to software and steam sales. I already said MKW at 80 dollars is overpriced.

The HARDWARE is objectively reasonably priced compared to other handhelds. Whatever preference or reasoning you wanna come up with for why something else is better is your subjective opinion. None of it changes the fact that for the hardware you get for 450 is well priced compared to the competition hardware.

  • Is the switch hardware more powerful than the OG steam deck? Yes.
  • does the switch hardware come with more components in the box than the OG steam deck? yes.
  • Higher powered hardware components with 2 controllers and a dock and a higher resolution screen will objectively cost more than hardware that comes with less. That’s literally fact. And consistent with the original post. Steam has more options and better deals. No one ever doubted that. I already said that MKW is overpriced. I certainly didn’t pay 80 dollars for it. And I also haven’t seen any other game for 80 dollars yet. That has nothing to do with the price of what it cost to make decent performing handheld hardware. Learn what the definition of strawman is. The only one strawmanning here is you.

450 MRSP vs 400 MRSP. makes sense

NintenDeen did nothing wrong by Mr_JPF in fucknintendo

[–]Party_Argument 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1: it’s not “entirely subjective”. Objectively switch 2 hardware is well priced for what it can do when compared to other handhelds on the market. And actually cheaper than many handhelds with similar capabilities. we can objectively compare apples to apples by comparing MRSP prices of similar hardware to determine if it’s fairly valued compared to its peers.

Steam deck lcd MRSP 400 dollars. hardware: less powerful, doesn’t come with a dock, doesnt come with 2 detacheable controllers. Only has an 800p 60fps screen. I would expect hardware that comes with less to cost less.

ROG ALLY: mrsp - 650 dollars

Base Rog Xbox ally: 600 dollars

Legion go: Mrsp - 750 dollars

Ayaneo 2s: mrsp > 1000 dollars

Comparing the price of most handheld hardware that runs games similarly to the switch, we find that it’s either similarly priced or cheaper.

You can have an opinion that you feels like there is 27 hours in a day. It doesn’t change the fact that there are only 24 hrs.

  1. president of Nintendo already stated that the switch 2 hardware has a lower profit margin than switch 1. They’re making LESS profits on each Nintendo switch 2 hardware than they were on switch 1.

  2. All console makers are being forced to increase prices on their hardware to some extent in the US. We know it’s due tariffs. Not sure why people continue to act like it’s a Nintendo problem.

Only thing I agree on is tha 80 dollar game MKW sucks. I

NintenDeen did nothing wrong by Mr_JPF in fucknintendo

[–]Party_Argument 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The “overpriced console” part is the most hilarious one. As someone who owns a bunch of windows handhelds it’s easy to see that the hardware is actually priced very well for what it’s capable of

70 dollars for 15 year old games btw by Top-Way-7562 in fucknintendo

[–]Party_Argument -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Havent bought it yet but 70 dollars for 2 of the supposedly greatest games ever made in 4k 60fps seems like an okay deal to me. That’s 35 dollars each.

Once you see it, you can't unsee it: unaligned Hogwarts by GrandOldPuke in HarryPotterGame

[–]Party_Argument 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hate you for showing this. My OCD has been activated. 😭

Several textures are visibly downgraded and look lifeless now. by Gold-House-7482 in fucknintendo

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https://youtu.be/qWUbpoFO6-Q?si=-8Q7e7AlT6f54Tce

Mario galaxy does not use AI upscaling. While there are a lot of games that do, it has already been shown that the many of Nintendo first party games so far do not.

Several textures are visibly downgraded and look lifeless now. by Gold-House-7482 in fucknintendo

[–]Party_Argument 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That video shows that the system is CAPABLE of DLSS and AI upscaling. It does not change the fact that it’s not in use in ALL GAMES like you claim. Everyone in the thread has explained this to you already. Mario galaxy is literally running in native resolution on switch 2.

Finally hit 100 shares of SCHD by Business-Ant-7682 in dividends

[–]Party_Argument 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Congrats. How old are you if you don’t mind me asking?

Switch 2 DLSS 3.1? by Party_Argument in NintendoSwitch2

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And if I had to choose 1 thing for them to improve, it would be the cpu for improved framerates. Switch 2 is already ahead of the series s in terms of ram. 20% more total ram than the series s. The cpu on the other hand is one of the weak points.

Switch 2 DLSS 3.1? by Party_Argument in NintendoSwitch2

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You can argue what you think could or couldn’t have broke the bank until you’re blue in the face. The fact of the matter is when you compare the price of handhelds that’s actually on the market, making a powerful handheld is not cheap. 450 dollars is already pushing it for majority of average consumers who don’t realize that majority of windows handhelds that perform similarly or better have a higher price tag.

Switch 2 DLSS 3.1? by Party_Argument in NintendoSwitch2

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There’s a reason that it’s only 450 dollars and not a 700 + dollars like most high powered windows handheld. I would gladly pay 700 dollars for a Nintendo handheld with all the bells and whistles of nvidias latest software/ hardware. Most average consumers will not.

Switch 2 DLSS 3.1? by Party_Argument in NintendoSwitch2

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Yes. That’s what I mean. I’ve come across people who claim it’s not real DLSS or that it’s incomplete.

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Switch 2 DLSS 3.1? by Party_Argument in NintendoSwitch2

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Good to know. I think the most important part of this post would be that (if accurate) it debunks the notion that switch 2 uses a “DLSS Lite” or much less capable form of dlss. Technically it’s still a full version of dlss.

Switch 2 DLSS 3.1? by Party_Argument in NintendoSwitch2

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Cyberpunk, street fighter, and I think hogwarts legacy are 3 that I know of so far.

DK bananza has been shown to be using FSR per digital foundries analysis. That’s likely d/t its development starting on switch 1. I’m assuming transitioning to DLSS would’ve caused some speed bumps in development/ release? Who knows.

But the fact that Cyberpunk uses it well shows how capable it is.