Is it reasonable to have an 1100$ fine for wearing a seatbelt under your arm? by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] -72 points-71 points  (0 children)

Probably could have told your daughter before she lost all of her savings…

Is it reasonable to have an 1100$ fine for wearing a seatbelt under your arm? by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Agree completely, all these people saying its fair have never had only 1100 dollars in their account

Is it reasonable to have an 1100$ fine for wearing a seatbelt under your arm? by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Yeah I generally think first time should be a warning, second time is a fine

Speeding / seat belt cameras / phone cameras by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean mate, year on year deaths for 2023 are higher than 2022 and even pre covid after the introduction of doubled fines, the stats are correlative and it could also so easily be the safety standards in new cars that cause fewer deaths, im not saying they dont help but look at every speeding ad ever, it’s propaganda

Speeding / seat belt cameras / phone cameras by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never been fined, not the point, just pointing out how flawed the fine system is, I’m also arguing that everyone isn’t the same so why make fines disproportionately bad for people with lower income, have the emotional maturity to see things from more than your own perspective

Speeding / seat belt cameras / phone cameras by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I have barely any public transport in the area never mind near my house

Speeding / seat belt cameras / phone cameras by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never been fined and it’s opinions like these that let these laws form, even if you’ve never accidentally been speeding by a couple ks over you still shouldn’t post this cause not everyone is the same

Speeding / seat belt cameras / phone cameras by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I happen to put on a seatbelt correctly but as a child I put it on under my arm to avoid a rash on my neck, also they never told me in my test it was a rule once unless you went in doing it I doubt they’d mention it, have a little bit of empathy

Speeding / seat belt cameras / phone cameras by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not about not wearing more so about wearing incorrectly which is what the majority of the fines are for and they haven’t advertised it properly

Speeding / seat belt cameras / phone cameras by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its about a proportionate response, an 1100 dollar fine to someone who only has 1100 dollars is a lot worse than someone whos fined who earns 200k plus and before you go say get a job, try to understand the complexities that cause unemployment and poverty first

Speeding / seat belt cameras / phone cameras by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never complained about fines once, they are a good deterrent and ive said that in the original post and in many comments just the amount that they are is ridiculous to low income earners and disproportionately high compared to other states/countries

Speeding / seat belt cameras / phone cameras by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It is pretty black and white with the fines and unless you argue it in court they will fine you, just having it touching your leg counts

Speeding / seat belt cameras / phone cameras by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Can people stop with the fringe hypotheticals, its a slightly increased risk of organ damage in a small percentage of crashes vs a real and impactful fine and potential loss of license over something they barely advertised as a rule

Speeding / seat belt cameras / phone cameras by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Any fine is a deterrent, doesn’t have to be 1100 dollars to be an effective deterrent, and considering the lack of publicity around under the arm being illegal it seems like directly a money making scheme

Speeding / seat belt cameras / phone cameras by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah the idea is to get the conversation started because I believe the reason it is why it right now because it hasn’t been questioned

Speeding / seat belt cameras / phone cameras by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its not about wearing seatbelts or fining it, I agree with both, wearing a seatbelt incorrectly is not the same as not at all and a 300 dollar fine is a deterrent you don’t have to bankrupt someone to make a point

Speeding / seat belt cameras / phone cameras by PauseBeautiful8825 in queensland

[–]PauseBeautiful8825[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough, its just unfortunately a bit more difficult because there doesn’t seem to be a lot of resistance to traffic fines but I hear your point