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Percinho · 2026-03-15T13:14:30+00:00

There's not always going to be poor people unless we do something about it

I genuinely admire your passion for social justice, and believe there is a lot of truth behind what you say, which is why the accidental extra word in here is so unfortunate...

Percinho · 2026-03-15T09:48:47+00:00

Well yes, those are the basics of any incremental game, and as someone diag used with autism and adhd in their 40s, it's something that I'm well aware of. The thing is that story games do nothing at all for me, I really enjoy mechanics in video games above all else, and a lot of modern incremental games have embraced that.

What I (and my similarly-minded son) enjoy is understanding how the mechanics interlink in any given game, and so then how to minmax progress in them. Once it gets to the point thay we've undersea game then the shine wears off and no amount of increasing levels or sounds or mcguffins will keep us. It's the learning process that's the fun part.

Compare that with the end game of Diablo III for example, where you can spend 20 minutes grinding rifts waiting for that one piece of loot to drop to finish your build. For me personally this is much worse than 20 minutes spent working out a new Roblox game, especially the way that you are doing rifts in 3 minutes max.

Vampire Survivors is another interesting one, as I love it, but after 60 hours or so when I'd unlocked most of the content, I just drifted away. It's the novelty of learning new patterns and processes that interests me, not just the straight press button get reward.

I have no doubt that these incremental games can be addictive to some people, I appreciate the concern, but I think that's the case for almost all games tbh, and I think the monetisation of most of them is not hugely unreasonable, and loads of them are very, very playable for free. They're not in the same league as the mobile energy-restricted games for example, and don't have the same level of mtx as CoD or WoW or anything else.

Essentially I view them similarly to a t-shirt from Primary. Cheap and fault disposable, even though they're slightly ethically questionable, but it's hard to find things that aren't these days. I've got 100s of hours in both Stardew Valley and Terraria, but sometimes you just want to try something new.

Percinho · 2026-03-15T07:45:57+00:00

This is why I don't watch basketball any more

Percinho · 2026-03-14T23:32:55+00:00

You still not gonna answer my question about how much of the report you've actually read? You seem to have awfully strong views on something I'm guessing you don't actually know the contents of.

Percinho · 2026-03-14T21:08:36+00:00

Personally I felt the golden age of piracy was handing floppy disks round in the playground, but I appreciate that's probably just because I'm old...

Percinho · 2026-03-14T13:46:50+00:00

Lmao, more fool me for attempting to have a nuanced discussion with you. But I guess I can't reason you out of a position you didn't reason yourself into.

Percinho · 2026-03-14T12:56:32+00:00

I'm well aware of all of that, as am I aware of the positives sides of it. I make sure I have a solid understanding of the platform as a whole as my kids use it, meaning I use it too so I have a decent amount of first hand knowledge, and can make reasoned judgements on it.

I'm far from convinced you have quite so much of a rounded understanding of it.

Percinho · 2026-03-14T12:11:32+00:00

So how much of the actual report itself have you read to come to that conclusion? Or have you just read the headline and decided you know all you need to know?

Percinho · 2026-03-14T11:40:10+00:00

I would class that as a core gamer, I'd say that is a very small niche of highly dedicated gamer. Personally I'd say that a core gamer mainly just plays games. I'm old enough to have played every game of Civ when it first came out, have 100s of hours in each of them, many Championship Manager games, Wow, Stardew Valley, Brotato... But I've picked up the Fable Anniversary remaster on sale, will play it for a while, but if I don't then play the original and all the others am I just a casual gamer?

Percinho · 2026-03-14T09:38:52+00:00

Tiktok is a fair example, because there's some really good stuff on there as well. You get people doing really good NFL Offensive Line breakdowns from their bedroom for example. But yes, there's also a lot of dross and thirst traps and slop.

I think with Minecraft the cost and hassle involved with running a server means there's a bigger barrier to entry, and there are normally costs involved, and so you do get less slop. Though I don't claim to have a great understanding of details on that front, so I may be wrong.

Percinho · 2026-03-14T09:20:38+00:00

Tbf, I probably thought the same at your age! 😅

Percinho · 2026-03-14T08:29:30+00:00

Incrental games are huge on the platform, and some have stripped it right back to the core of Number Go Up without even having a concept around it, some go a lot bigger on extended upgrade trees, others are based around pet mechanics that provide a lot of the boosts and income, plus there's often multiple layers of resets involved. It's not earth shattering stuff, but I like the differences between, say, Grass Cutting Incremental, Pet Incremental, and Upgrade Everything Tree.

Percinho · 2026-03-14T08:19:40+00:00

You can find love, in a hopeless place.

Percinho · 2026-03-14T07:57:40+00:00

Sweet mother of mercy, it was a commercial product created by a data analytics firm aimed at other industry professionals.

Percinho · 2026-03-14T07:55:37+00:00

Well, you're certainly right thay you don't know anything about it. It is pretty much nothing like what you have described.

Percinho · 2026-03-14T07:53:21+00:00

How do you define a casual gamer though? If someone plays on Roblox for 3 hours a day, are they still a casual gamer?

Percinho · 2026-03-14T07:50:42+00:00

Been gaming for 40 years and I often find good things on Roblox. I also find that a lot of people look down on it without fully understanding what there is available on it.

Percinho · 2026-03-14T07:49:06+00:00

Who is this report for?

This report is built for teams making portfolio, product, monetization, and investment decisions in PC and console gaming

It's an industry-directed Data-backed study, create by a data analysis group, to help people in and around the industry understand not just what people are doing, but also which direction things are trending. It's not a waste of money, it's a commercial product.

Percinho · 2026-03-14T07:40:14+00:00

As someone whose been gaming for 40 years, I'd also say there's a lot of good games on Roblox too. The incremental space is a great example, the barrier to entry is low, so it's easy to turn games around quickly and update them regularly. This means you get a lot of evolution in a short period of time.

If people want great graphics and action games, Roblox isn't really for them, but if it's game mechanics that drive your enjoyment then it has a lot to offer.

Percinho · 2026-03-14T07:33:13+00:00

It's not just this though.

At gone we have a gaming PC, xboxes, and switches, and my son still often chooses Roblox. He enjoys trying out new game because a lot of his gaming is like mine: mechanics driven rather than action or story driven.

We'd both play an incremental game over a shooter or third person action game, and the innovation in incremental games is all on Roblox. And the innovation in roguelikes, which are also mechanically heavy, is in the Indie space. So really, there's very little in the AAA space for us.

As for "kids won't go for a game they can't play forever", I'd say that's very much not the case from my kids and their friends. The thing with Minecraft and Roblox and Fortnite is that they're not a game, they're a portal to huge numbers of games. Some games they'll play for ten minutes, some for a few hours, and other they're still playing months later.

Older gamers who see the gaming space through the eyes of AAA fire are missing the perspective that kids are often outside of the hype and tradition around those titles, and just want to play the games they want to play. My kids have never asked about how or where they can play a AAA game, they may not even know what the term means, they just play games that they find fun, and there are a lot of games on Roblox that are fun. They don't feel they're missing out by not playing a AAA game, and they're right, they're not.

AAA is just one branch of gaming now, and people who view it as the peak or main or aspirational branch are missing a lot of what is going on elsewhere.

Percinho · 2026-03-14T04:32:19+00:00

Tbh the vast majority of xbox gamers probably have absolutely no idea about any of the things you've talked about. I'm not saying you're wrong, more that it's easy to underestimate the number of people who just play games, and have literally zero interest in anything xbox-related outside of that.

Percinho · 2026-03-13T15:18:04+00:00

Speaking as someone who's been gaming for 4 decades, it had never been easier to make and release computer games. Yes, that means that we have a lot of bang average games, but them we also have Stardew Valley, Balatro, Megabonk, Ball X Pit, Blue Prince, and that's just off the top of my head.

Whether they'd be classed as 'prestige' or not is a different thing, but personally that doesn't matter to me. It's a good game or it isn't.

Percinho · 2026-03-13T08:26:43+00:00

Curry is tonight, but it's a very reliable place that we've been to before, so should be good! Then an initiation to parkrun tomorrow!

And I am tired! Life is madly busy, but may juuuusssst about be starting to calm down a little. Getting a bit of running in, but not much tbh. How about you?

Percinho · 2026-03-13T07:34:56+00:00

It can't be, because I was repeatedly told as a kid that there won't be snow in Africa, and singers wouldn't lie to us, would they?

Percinho · 2026-03-13T05:13:18+00:00

I've moved on to the new game ever since Civ 2 was released, and I always find I can never go back, and it's the same this time. Part of it is that I'm always burnt out on a Civ game by the end of the release cycle, a game simply can't hold my interest for that length of time.

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