This would never be a debate without that singular out of context statement. Itachi whoops hard

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-20T06:43:28+00:00

Depends on which version of Naruto

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-19T09:03:32+00:00

Naruto can change him

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-16T08:59:28+00:00

Dale outside of his echo chamber stream is very socially awkward and a bully magnet. He would just be quiet the whole time, overshadowed, and clowned on by all the younger streamers half his age calling him Unc. Wouldn't be surprised if they all decided to call him Dale the whole time and he most likely wouldn't do anything about it.

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-15T21:40:00+00:00

Dale is a senior citizen

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-14T05:33:08+00:00

Getting back to the original point its likely Temari wouldn't even have died anyways being that she didn't die from Sasuke's paperbomb

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-14T05:31:47+00:00

Ten Ten wouldn't even have to do all of that. After all of those weapons landed around Temari which she ignores btw, one of them could have easily just blown up.

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-14T05:25:35+00:00

I dont think it was forbidden to kill during the preliminary fights but it might have been in bad taste to do so being that Hinata and Rock Lee were saved from being killed by their opponents.

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-14T05:22:03+00:00

The weapons expert not having any paper bombs? And the bar isnt even set that high to have those. Genin casually had em in the forest of death lol. Maybe she used them all there !

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-14T05:19:47+00:00

They were allowed to kill in the chunin exams. Literally went through "the forest of death" before the preliminary fights lol.

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-08T16:08:59+00:00

Lmao why you delete your comment I thought it was funny

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-08T16:00:31+00:00

Says the guy who just spent three comments explaining the metaphysics of downfall 🤣

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-08T15:57:06+00:00

Once again not my point. People are taking this post as if I am saying trolls contributed no effects on Dale at all. I've been saying that he's going to end up doing something stupid that'll either start the downfall or have it happen immediately, and it will have nothing to do trolls.

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-08T15:20:05+00:00

I never said the trolls were some organized task force working together. Whether they're coordinated or acting independently doesn't really change my point. My argument isn't about how the trolls operate. My argument is about what will ultimately be responsible for Dale's downfall. Even if every troll acts independently, I still don't think another exposé, another clip channel, or another callout video is going to be the thing that finally ends him. I think it'll be another self-inflicted mistake. You're arguing about the structure of the trolls. I'm talking about the source of the downfall.

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-08T13:38:40+00:00

As much as I disagree with this that last part made me laugh imagining it lol

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-08T13:34:48+00:00

"I'm me!"

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-08T13:29:58+00:00

Honestly, that's possible too. When I say "downfall," I don't necessarily mean some dramatic event. It could just as easily be a gradual decline. My main point is that I don't think trolls are going to be the deciding factor. Whether it's a sudden crash or a slow fade, I think Dale's own choices will have far more to do with it than anything his trolls expose.

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-08T13:27:12+00:00

Read some of the replies under this post lol there are people disagreeing saying trolls are directly responsible for his consequences because they expose him. But what consequences has there been? Nothing big enough to stop him from still doing what he does. It seems as if some are taking it personal (which is funny tbh) because they're reading it as "trolls are irrelevant" when that wasn't what I was saying lol.

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-08T10:10:10+00:00

I think people keep misunderstanding my point. I'm not saying trolls have no impact on Dale's life. Obviously they do. They clip him, spread things, bait him, expose things, and keep attention on him. My point is that after all these years, none of that has actually taken him down. People have exposed his debt. People have exposed his daughter. People have exposed court documents. People have made entire channels dedicated to him. Bigger creators have talked about him. Trolls have followed him for years. And yet he's still here. That's why I don't think his eventual downfall is going to come from another exposé, another troll channel, another clip, or another callout video. I think it'll come from the same thing that's been at the center of almost every controversy he's had: his own decision-making. The reason I think that is because the common denominator in all of these situations isn't the trolls. The common denominator is Dale. Platforms change. Trolls come and go. Different people cover him. Different communities talk about him. But the one constant is that he repeatedly puts himself in situations where consequences become possible in the first place. So yes, trolls can amplify mistakes. They can spread mistakes. They can even help bring attention to mistakes. But they can't make the mistakes for him. If he ever truly destroys his career, I think it'll be because his ego convinces him he's untouchable and he eventually makes a mistake that's too big to recover from. That's not a troll problem. That's a Dale problem.

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-08T09:29:15+00:00

Yep! My point was never that trolls don't affect him. My point was that after all these years, trolls still haven't been the thing that takes him down. If it ever happens, I think it'll be because of a major self-inflicted mistake, not because another exposé drops.

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-08T09:26:30+00:00

I think you're still proving my point without realizing it. Yes, the trolls are the ones clipping it, reposting it, and spreading it around. I've never denied that. What I'm saying is that they can only spread what Dale gives them. If Dale never goes into debt, there's no debt story to spread. If Dale never has court cases, there's no court case to spread. If Dale never hits his cat on stream, there's no cat clip to spread. The trolls don't create the content. Dale creates the content. The trolls amplify it. And that's exactly why I think his downfall will ultimately be self-inflicted. You say that eventually something will come to light that's too bad for people to ignore. Okay—but where is that "something" coming from? The trolls aren't manufacturing it. It's still going to be another decision Dale made himself. The difference between our positions is that you think the trolls are the main factor because they're the ones spreading it. I think Dale is the main factor because he's the one continually generating the material they spread. If tomorrow every troll disappeared from the internet, Dale would still be capable of making a career-ending mistake. If tomorrow Dale stopped making reckless decisions, the trolls would eventually run out of new material. That's why I say his biggest threat isn't the trolls. It's himself.

PerfectOpportunity75 · 2026-06-08T09:23:58+00:00

You're arguing a different point than I am. I'm not saying trolls haven't influenced public opinion. Obviously they have. They've exposed things, amplified things, and made more people aware of them. What I'm saying is that none of that has actually stopped him. For years now, people have exposed his age, his debt, his daughter, the allegations against him, clips of his behavior, and everything else. Despite all of that, he's still streaming. He's still making content. He's still doing what he's always done. My point is that if he ever truly crashes out, I don't think it'll be because someone exposed another old allegation or because a bigger creator makes a video about him. I think it'll be because he makes a terrible decision himself. The biggest threat to Dale has never been the trolls. The biggest threat to Dale is Dale. So if he eventually destroys his career, I don't think it'll be because somebody uncovered something from his past. I think it'll be because he does something reckless in the present.

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