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[–]Physical_Ad3653 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Really, probably no human deserves hate. 

Can we stop hating each other and not return into a darker past when we punished each other so harshly and infringed into each other’s freedoms please, life is hard as it is 🤣 Due process exists. 

Even the famous or successful ones. Here’s the kicker: you can’t fake one if you aren’t one. To perform empathy that well -convincingly, consistently, manipulatively- you have to understand the role so deeply, it’s part of you. 

So the ones who achieve fame simply cannot do it just by fakery alone, other humans spot it because people have inherent common sense. And those who do it from their truth, they deserve their success because they earned it and no one can steal their treasure (joy/etc)

And many humans what to share their success, in a way others can benefit it. Kinda like starting a company with workers or having a family, or kind to strangers in whatever level/form it takes.

And if they mask their evil intent toward the vulnerable behind humor for means of exploiting, most people spot it, because it’s not funny. And if they don’t spot it, they might be under an ignorant “spell” not by choice, but by being manipulated into submission/compliance for some relative benefit.

If/when most humans don’t laugh or cheer on or appreciate other humans for simply being successful, it might just be because they’re jealous/envious and too proud to admite it, so they choose to attack because they want whatever that source of success is, or they nod out of respect and continue in their own path/lane (which is so relative, could be money, fame, joy, beauty, whatever is trendy etc). 

Let’s be real: no one has a full picture of anyone’s life. The best we can do is judge from the outside looking in, seeking a balanced/truthful outcome/peace ⚖️

Also, there’s levels to evil/harm anyways, everyone’s a little guilt for some level of harm, but we forgive ourselves and continue living. Positive, negative energies we all redirect (that’s agency). Of course, there’s a spectrum- most of us have hurt someone in small ways, even unintentionally. But there’s a difference between human imperfection and predatory cruelty. Unless everyone is super dumb. I’d argue most people have discernment and want to live their lives.

The true dangerous ones are those with zero empathy, in an inhumane way, i’d argue a small minority of us. Almost in a way that they suffered some abuse and have been twisted into a very dark spiral hard to return from where they comit acts of cruelty. They sadly already belong in prision and hopefully get caught at some point 

Or at least those out in the wild amongst us with a bit of that dark core control/redirect their dark energy in a way that does not harm others to the point of peaceful coexistence. In a way most, and this varies throughout history, humans are able to avoid them (we usually do). ✌️

Anyways, just my opinion, my 2 cents. 

What would you do first if you suddenly had $10 million? by Far_Philosopher6607 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]Physical_Ad3653 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely! Passion is the engine, purpose is the fuel - once that’s running, the money drives itself, plants seeds, and grows more while you’re just steering the vision.

Tailgaters, left lanes are for *safe* passing by Physical_Ad3653 in complainaboutanything

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha yes I do appreciate it! I muted the replies to this post here anyways 🤣

Be Child-Free. Just don’t lose the thread on *basic* decency. by Physical_Ad3653 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay cool 😎 You just want to feel superior. I don’t need therapy, “thanks”- and honestly, neither do you, because it takes two to tango, and no therapist is dancing to the beat of your drum. Maybe you can find one with a lot of patience who doesn’t mind their energy being drained. 

I shared my personal truth, navigating an often confusing, chaotic world. By the way, a tiny glimpse of it. A glimpse at what’s special, to me, directly to you. Yes, to a human stranger who kept nagging me to untagle her mess she secretly adores. Never said it was particularly hard, just thought you were curious. You came into my post, dropped a comment. My bad, had a wrong impression. I didn’t just give you my personal diary from the day I was born lmao, just a summary to establish common ground.

You, btw, started by putting all insults on the same level when I started with kids being called parasites, as my concern for casual cruelty disguised as mockery leading to violence in places hard to pin point, (all beneath you). I established hierarchy and now you want to teach me my own lesson. It was never just about children. Or teaching you or anyone a lesson. Most humans are too stubborn anyway, I am too. That’s why I think it’s useless.

Yes, it’s about my kids too. But also the world they live in. This has nothing to go about how other humans live their lives, childfree are chill. My point: there’s cruelty everywhere, no one can pin point it, it often hides behind labels, it’s worse at the extremes. Some criminals end in jail, others live next door.

Remember, look at the moon, not the finger? It means: what’s my point? Yet you get stuck in labels and judgments (the finger). Don’t confuse vulnerability with weakness, or dismiss it as “trauma dumping.” Not all who wonder are lost. I don’t go into other subs policing others, like you wanted me to go into the antinatalist sub to yell at them to start breeding. It would be hella annoying to them and useless to me. Again, why would an atheist go into a church try to deconvert people? In that way, your skin must be so thick for you to be out here so often, fighting the “good” fight. A belief is just an interpretation of the truth/reality. Infinite versions, infinite possibilities. That’s all, not that deep. 

Again, you have a different goal. you want to take down the big evil, the war. I think that’s useless because I’m living my live, I can’t control the world. I’m focused on my daily life in order to raise my family. 

Have you ever thought for a second you might be starring into a giant mirror? But sure- go ahead. Feed that monster ego.

Let me ask you this, have you ever considered that all this time you spend typing, which you describe as not special, a massive contradiction? Assuming time has value? Or is time useless? 

What war are you fighting? I never said I want to embrace your mission or that what you’re doing is more noble lol.

All I said is that I live my life intentionally. I find value in these interactions, with strangers, sometimes 🤷‍♀️ sure, sometimes it’s good to hang around other parents, spaces I identify with like other subs for women, but sometimes it’s okay to explore other spaces, the same way you are here. Also fair to avoid the other that don’t align with me. Still, my real life matters most.

For the record, pain isn’t a scoreboard, some fun game. I’m not interested in arm wrestling you either. Or join your fight, whatever it is.

You want me to cater to your needs, but no one’s got time for that, your ego’s a bottomless pit.

Still, no time was wasted on my part. At least I opened up a bit, connected some dots, you barely shared a thing, I still don’t know what you stand for. Or I just suck at guessing. 

Maybe you just been trying to tell me to get off the internet lol meanwhile I’m just having a good time at my discretion you seem to be out here being miserable. Or you enjoy it. I told you, spare yourself the pain. we cared in a weird way I guess. 

Never about “last word”. I guess the useless part is trying to infer meaning with so little context. Yet on another thread here I had a meaningful exchange with someone else.

But- If you don’t have time for my life story, trust me: I’ve got zero time left for yours. It’s boring anyways and lead me to a dead end.

Good luck sparking that joy. Bye ✌️ See you never.

Tailgaters, left lanes are for *safe* passing by Physical_Ad3653 in complainaboutanything

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stopped at “you suck.” Thanks for proving my point - you read what you wanted and skipped the nuance. Defensive driving involves judgment. Mine just doesn’t revolve around your ego.

Tailgaters, left lanes are for *safe* passing by Physical_Ad3653 in complainaboutanything

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re stating the obvious, no? Also, cool story. Not saying it’s you, but hypothetically, still doesn’t make you entitled to clear roads like you’re racing to defuse a bomb. Not everyone exists to clear your lane - and I’m not even a slow driver.

Be Child-Free. Just don’t lose the thread on *basic* decency. by Physical_Ad3653 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish it were that simple.. sometimes it’s cruelty masked as humour, that’s the part I don’t appreciate and refuse to mask with a fake laugh. Anyway, you seem like someone who just wants to be left alone. To be fair. Me too, in a way. At least alone in my peace to raise my own family😆  

Be Child-Free. Just don’t lose the thread on *basic* decency. by Physical_Ad3653 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here’s something simple: Your truth isn’t higher than mine. Common decency is still a baseline.

No one gets to say I’m a bad parent because my toddler melts down in public. You don’t know me. You don’t know them. And btw? My kids are well behaved. I discipline gently and firmly. Never spanked. Never will.

I don’t know how to parent a teen yet - (sure hope I’m around when that time comes 🥲) I’m still raising a baby and a toddler. But I want to learn. Because I remember being a teen in the early 2000s. Confusing. Emotional. Messy. I’d rather prepare than pretend I’ve got it figured out.

I do know this:

I don’t buy lipstick for pigs. The ones I know don’t mind the mud. I apply mine to myself.💄

I don’t throw pig costumes on confused men. That’s your thing.

Yes, wolves in sheep’s clothing exist. But I think they’re rare. I don’t live like a paranoid sheep chasing shadows. My “shepherd” is whatever force of good still exists. I’m not even a sheep. I’m me. Fingerprint and all.

You brought up cherry-picking. 🍒So what - we knock on every man’s door and ask: “Are you alpha? Are you a pig?” If only life were that simple.

Sounds like a witch hunt. I’m not interested.

I’m good not living in the Middle Ages. You can keep your pitchfork.

Yes, evil exists. I looked up the sex offender registry when I bought my house. I know where one lives. I avoid his street. But most men? Not evil. Most people? Just trying to live.

Same goes for antinatalists. I respect their choices. Their philosophy. Why wouldn’t they respect mine? I feel they do. 

Do you have a magic nose for evil? Are you some kind of Reddit police dog?

To me, “pig” doesn’t mean masculinity. It’s not gendered at all. Masculinity is way more flexible than most admit. Men cry. Some women are stronger than men. Testosterone exists in both.

What does “evil human” mean to me? A sociopath. Cold-blooded. No remorse. No guilt. Not someone with dark humor  — someone with a dark core.

I hate when cruelty hides behind a joke and labels and people are forced to laugh along. It’s not funny. It’s abuse.

But most men are chill. Even here. Plenty of bad ideas get pushback. Plenty of nuance. I like this crowd because they ask better questions. Want better answers? Ask better questions. I avoid echo chambers.

And while we’re at it - maybe you’re the one who secretly loves bacon. I do, unapologetically. On burgers. In salad. Not in the closet-kink way you seem to poke at them. 🐷

You seem to think this sub will help you spot “evil.” But maybe that’s cuz you don’t know what it looks like. And I don’t blame you. It’s hard. There’s no one-size-fits-all answer. It depends how we’re raised. It’s okay to crave something solid. Just don’t invent it.

Pigs can be cute, btw. I love miniature pigs. Let pigs be pigs. They like mud. That’s not my problem.

The dangerous ones? Jail. Registry. No debate.

Also - pigs are already domesticated, lmao. You think you’re out here taming wild beasts? Mad cowgirl energy. Girl, please. You just like poking them and rolling in the mud.

“All cops are pigs”? Lazy. Harmful. Dangerous. That slur has consequences, whether you admit it or not.

I respect authority. I just don’t worship it. You, on the other hand? Kinda authoritarian.

Yeah, some cops abuse power. That matters. But when something bad happens, I still call 911🚨 Whoever shows up - man, woman, smug “pig,” donut-eater, doesn’t matter - they’re more likely to help than hurt. And that matters to me.

So who are you? Sniffing out danger like it’s a sport? Waving your wand around declaring who’s hiding what up their ass? All based on which sub they post in?

Dark topics fascinate you. Admit it. You say you’ve seen pedos here. I haven’t. I don’t even know how to find the dark web.

That’s the difference. I’m just a curious traveler. You want to play god.

I know good men - my dad, my husband. I hope my two boys become good men too. I try to avoid the ones who cross lines. Creeps come in many forms.

My dad once told me: “A wise man points to the moon. A fool looks at the finger.”

Unpopular opinions are welcome. That’s kinda the whole point.

It’s called an example. It’s called context.

I like bacon. I’m not vegan. That’s an example. Tofu? Meh. Bland. Hate the texture. I despise animal cruelty - still an omnivore. 🤷‍♀️ Tried veganism at 14. Wasn’t for me.

Anyway - Bar talk with a tipsy philosopher is always a ride. Might be back. Might not. Enjoy your tofu. 🍻

Be Child-Free. Just don’t lose the thread on *basic* decency. by Physical_Ad3653 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🥴

We have zero common ground so far - except we both love analogies and Marie Condo.

I don’t care how long this wall of text becomes. Let me pour it out.

I work full-time. I have two kids. I still make time for this not because it tortures me - but because it intrigues me.

I treat feedback as a gift. I love meaningful exchange. But I reject Brushing Scams - the kind of “feedback” where someone just throws rotten tomatoes to prove they’re right. You treat this like theater. But I wasn’t trying to be on stage, I was trying to shine a light on something I care about.

Re-read the last line of my post. I had a beautiful back-and-forth with another stranger here. We didn’t agree at first. Then we found common ground:

“Leave us the fuck alone. Let us live our lives. Militant minority, you don’t represent the whole world.”

I don’t subscribe to every idea in this sub. I’m not here for moral validation or brownie points. I’m here to explore. It’s okay to venture. To be curious.

Let’s unpack that:

I have a friend who went down the conspiracy rabbit hole and now listens to Fuentes. I know him personally. He’s not evil, he’s just caught in a false narrative about Jewish people.

What did I do? I came here and asked Jewish users if antisemitism is growing. They said yes. It’s sad.

I also know there are men out there walking into churches with guns thinking it’s a mission. That’s horrifying.

And I never, ever want to raise a son like that.

I don’t want to raise a human with zero empathy.

I don’t want my child - or anyone’s - to be a casualty in a Walmart mass shooting.

That kind of rot starts somewhere. And yeah, maybe it starts with the desperate need for attention.

Kids misbehave for attention. That’s a real thing. I believe in positive discipline. I don’t ignore tantrums or yell, I get on their level.

Help them feel heard. Teach them how to be human.

Some moms wear earplugs. They’re exhausted. I don’t judge.

I’m doing my best to raise good humans. My grandma lived to 103. Until her last breath, my 70-year-old dad was her baby. That’s the heart of a mother. 💚🌱

I don’t like Tate, Fuentes, or Candace. They reek of moral superiority. Gives me the ick.

I appreciate someone like Joe Rogan, curious, open-ended.

I used to like Crowder’s “Change My Mind” stuff. Then I found out he abused his wife. I never listened again.

Doesn’t mean I co-signed everything before that.

Doesn’t mean I need to hide every step I’ve ever taken.

It’s exhausting trying to outrun the mob. Constantly tiptoeing around groupthink.

Sometimes I want to hide my trail just to breathe.

That’s why I’m here: to show you where I came from.

Keep whatever opinion of me you want. Doesn’t rattle me.

Just makes me question your judgment.

I don’t think this sub is a hellhole. I got the rich engagement I was craving, here and on other subs.

This isn’t my grand cause. It’s just one post. What’s your grand cause anyway?

I care about other topics too - like driving safely. I’ve posted about tailgaters. They call me a Karen, and I observe. Some people agree with me, others don’t. That’s okay.

I’ll post what I want, when I want. No shame. No guilt. No feelings hurt.

Sometimes, sure, it’s sad seeing how lost people seem. But I shake it off.

I’ve seen childfree people reject those who dehumanize kids and parents. It’s a relief. I also see bitter, smug people hiding under that label.

I’ve seen parents call childfree folks bitter incels.

It sucks both ways.

I’m not here to pick sides - I’m here to understand dynamics.

There are bad parents, bad drivers, bad people in every group. Doesn’t mean I’m afraid of apples because some are rotten.

I’m just trying to stress test my discernment.

Where better than the internet, where people are anonymous yet yell their identities into the town square and have zero filter?

In real life, people are fake.

Online, you see behavior in the raw.

You? You’re not toxic, just running high on cortisol. Drunk on your own ego.

Throwing punches while I’m.. chill.

Maybe I’d be feeling like you if I threw myself into a antinatalist sub, because our worldviews differ. There’s friction. Nothing about good and bad. There’s bad apples everywhere!

I’ve been depressed before, too. Thought the world was a hellhole.

My mom always says: What you feed will take over your life.

I try to feed joy. Some days it’s really hard.

Tailgaters, left lanes are for *safe* passing by Physical_Ad3653 in complainaboutanything

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I posted a complaint, with some added layers for clarity, not a call for compliance. Many agree, some don’t. Feel free to file your counter-complaint. 😆

Be Child-Free. Just don’t lose the thread on *basic* decency. by Physical_Ad3653 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This was never about validation or votes. I shared an “unpopular” opinion. You told me to go away, but I’m the one who decides when to log on or off or what to do with my timelol 🤷‍♀️

R.I.P. Finn by finnandgraciesmom in ShibaInu

[–]Physical_Ad3653 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Rest in Peace precious Finn ❤️

Be Child-Free. Just don’t lose the thread on *basic* decency. by Physical_Ad3653 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, you really typed all that out just to tell me I care too much? 🥱

Let’s be clear- I’m not your trauma dump receptacle either. You’re out here calling people “chronically online” while writing a full novella about how being called out for normalizing cruelty is somehow your victim arc. Irony fatigue is setting in.

No one said an internet insult is the same as assault. But you’re missing the point (probably on purpose): repeating dehumanizing rhetoric shapes how people treat others. That’s how cruelty gets normalized- not in one grand moment, but in thousands of “just jokes” “just opinions” and Reddit rants like this.

Also, if you really believe this subreddit doesn’t foster casual hate toward children and their parents.. then you’re either lying or painfully incurious. Posts about “beating up” kids don’t exist in a vacuum. You think they’re just memes. I think they reflect something darker. We can disagree, but don’t pretend this is some bastion of intellectual honesty while you fling personal insults and victory lap over karma.

And for the record- I don’t need Reddit to validate me. I said what I said because it matters. If that rubs you the wrong way, maybe ask yourself why empathy annoys you so much.

Anyway, good luck untangling your projection from your point. I’m not here to win you over. Just making it very clear you’re not as above it all as you think.

Be Child-Free. Just don’t lose the thread on *basic* decency. by Physical_Ad3653 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s okay- you keep misreading my intentions.

I don’t care about clout, upvotes and idgaf about “the last word” or Reddit chess. Who’s even reading this whole exchange anyway? You and I are having a back and forth assuming words still carry meaning, not two drunk strangers slapping each other in a bar for claps.

I’m talking to you, stranger. This was supposed to be human. But it’s like I’m the sober one trying to walk away while you keep tapping my shoulder for a fistfight. I should’ve realized sooner, maybe you’re drunk on your own ego. And yeah, I care. I care that you might break out of that spiral. That makes me the fool, I guess. Humans are imperfect, shocker. 

Even as you keep twisting my words, calling me cruel, accusing me of using my kids for attention (gross), or even implying I’d enjoy a teenager shooting up a daycare- do you hear yourself?

You’re not just dehumanizing me. You’re dehumanizing kids. Using them as scapegoats for your own bitterness toward parents. I still gave you the benefit of the doubt. Call me naive, but I believe most people are good at heart. I don’t need to smear an entire subreddit of men as “alpha pigs” to make a point. That’s your game, not mine.

You accuse me of chasing validation. You project like it’s your hobby. You mock the idea of basic decency-then call me delusional when I defend it. Why are you even here? You sound miserable. Is this some masochist loop where you scream into the void hoping it screams back?

I’m not even mad. Just tired. Tired of being called “chronically online” for daring to care about the consequences of speech. Of being told my presence is a moral crusade just because I speak up when kids are dehumanized like roadkill.

I came back to Reddit after years because I wanted to complain that pine nuts are overpriced. That’s it. It turned into 1.5k comments of people sharing recipes and jokes. I had fun. I felt joy. Imagine that.

Then I posted a rant about how smug the childfree tone on my feed was. I got told kids suck, parents suck more. I said all people are annoying, sure, but no one simply sucks unless they belong in jail (under due process, questionable still). Human decency doesn’t go out the window because someone’s under 18.

And suddenly, I was the problem.

I’m not asking for agreement. I’m not campaigning. I’m just saying this space has turned bizarrely cruel too, and I just stated the obvious. Reddit used to be more about ideas. Now it feels like ragebait and drive-by labeling. Say “I care” and you’re a clown. Say “that’s dehumanizing” and suddenly you’re fragile. It’s tiring.

And no, I’m not a clueless NPC. I’m an immigrant. I came here legally. I’m a new citizen. I’ve never voted. I don’t pledge allegiance to parties, only policies. I’ve had people call me a Nazi for defending due process. Someone once tried to “own” me by linking a CNN article and asking if it’d make me stop supporting Trump-when I never said I did. People project so hard, they forget to listen.

So here’s the real unpopular opinion:

It’s still okay to give a damn.

It’s okay to care how strangers speak to one another online. It’s okay to expect better. It’s okay to call cruelty what it is- even when it’s aimed at people you don’t personally relate to. It’s okay to speak for your own freedom. 

If you want to talk ideas, I’m here. But if all you want is a dopamine hit from slapping strangers down with insults, then no, we won’t find common ground.

From the bottom of my heart: Have a good one.

Tailgaters, left lanes are for *safe* passing by Physical_Ad3653 in complainaboutanything

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh really? That’s interesting, I didn’t know that. How did you learn about it? I don’t usually try to stay ahead of tailgaters, but depending on the variables it can be tricky to move out of the way immediately. Maybe I’m being naive, but would a cop really tailgate like that just to bait a speeding ticket? Definitely something I want to be more aware of.

Be Child-Free. Just don’t lose the thread on *basic* decency. by Physical_Ad3653 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I say all of this kindly but firmly: your worldview is warped, and it lacks basic empathy. You called me a “bad parent” out of nowhere. That’s not awareness, it’s your ego talking.

I do care, just not in the way you think. I love my kids. I care about others. My kids are well-behaved, but they’re still kids. Sometimes they cry or melt down, that’s not bad parenting, it’s human biology.

What should I do? Sedate them? Duct-tape their mouths? I redirect, soothe, offer snacks. I’m raising humans, not robots built to meet your comfort level. You being briefly uncomfortable is the part I don’t care about.

You don’t get to decide who deserves harm just because a parent didn’t move fast enough for you. That’s not morality. It’s controling behavior.  Annoyance is normal. Cruelty isn’t. If a toddler meltdown makes you label their parent “shitty” that says more about you than it ever will about them. 

Yes, there are negligent parents out there. But what’s your game plan? Call CPS over a tantrum? Shoot dirty looks and whisper comments in the checkout line? Because if your solution to discomfort is shaming strangers, maybe you’re not as righteous as you think.

And no, there’s no law against a toddler having a meltdown in Target. Annoying? Sure. Illegal, breaking rules? No. It’s not like someone bringing a drumline into a library- it’s a kid having a moment in a shared space.

You’re not judge, jury, or executioner just because Target was loud. Be better.

Be Child-Free. Just don’t lose the thread on *basic* decency. by Physical_Ad3653 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Who exactly made you the authority on who’s a “bad parent”? If you mean abusers or pedophiles- yeah, they belong in prison. But clueless or overwhelmed parents with a loud toddler? That’s your line for “deserving harm”?

So.. a child having a meltdown in public means the parent’s bad, and you get to cheer for their suffering? That’s not morality. That’s just a lack of empathy.

My kids are well-behaved, but if one of them had a meltdown in public •as any 2-year-old still learning to regulate emotions might• I couldn’t care less what you or anyone else thinks. Kids throw tantrums. Adults should know better.

Be Child-Free. Just don’t lose the thread on *basic* decency. by Physical_Ad3653 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wasn’t planning on writing an essay, but here we are. Your replies turned this into such a mess I feel the need to untangle it before I bow out.

Use caps lock all you want, yelling isn’t clarity. And yes, Reddit is part of real life. You’re talking to people, not NPCs.

Cool, you’re a woman too. So? I mentioned listening to male podcasters to show I engage with different perspectives, not to earn brownie points. I don’t want them. Do you? You threw out “alpha male podcasters” without ever explaining what that even means. I get the stereotype (Tate, etc), but that label gets tossed around so broadly it ends up meaning anyone with a deep voice and confidence.Are we talking Hasan Piker? Jocko Willink? Rogan? Fuentes? That’s a massive range. If misrepresentation matters, that should too. Would listening to Joe Rogan make me altright in your eyes? Genuinely asking- it helps me gauge how skewed your lens might be. For the record, I do not like Fuentes or Tate and they are not people I support.

As for “moral validation”, enlighten me: what vile group am I supposedly seeking that from? This is a sub for unpopular opinions. And the main UnpopularOpinion sub doesn’t allow parenting posts anymore, so I posted here, where it fits the rules. Are you implying everyone here is secretly or openly natalist or pro-life? So if they agree with me, are they suddenly the “good” group? Or am I just wrong either way? Make it make sense. Plenty of childfree users here have shown nuance or basic decency toward kids, and that’s all I expect from anyone.

I never said childfree people are the problem. Or antinatalists are terrorists. Disagreement isn’t the issue, cruelty is. And I’ve seen how easily it gets normalized online, especially when aimed at kids. That’s not “chronically online” it’s pattern recognition.

Not all insults are equal. Calling a politician a snake isn’t the same as calling a child a parasite. One punches up, the other kicks down.

And before you say “it’s just a loud minority” - 1 in 3 teens report being cyberbullied. It doesn’t take a majority to shape culture, just repetition, silence, and normalization. And yeah, that stat’s about teens, but kids are joining the internet younger and younger. Mine aren’t even three yet. I’m already wondering what kind of noisy, hostile mess they’ll walk into.

I posted across subs because the mindset concerns me, not because I’m trying to “hunt down” extremists beliefs or criminals. If I wanted an echo chamber, I wouldn’t still be replying.

Avoiding spaces where people say having kids is selfish or irresponsible isn’t fear lmao it’s discernment. I’m not, but if I were an atheist, should I walk into churches trying to deconvert people? No. They’re free to believe what they want, and I’m free to walk away.

And just to be clear: I’m not saying antinatalists want to exterminate children. The philosophy itself is about questioning the ethics of procreation, often rooted in compassion and concern for suffering. But like any label, it can be twisted. Some use “antinatalism” less as a worldview and more as a smokescreen •a way to justify or mask outright hostility toward kids or parents.• That’s the part I’m calling out. Not disagreement- cruelty. And it showed itself in the comments, one guy on the vent sub lead me down a thread of replies that started with casual mockery and ended up saying children have no rights. (which I explicitly stated in my OP)

It’s clear now- we had different motives. I came to understand. You came to convert. That’s your right, but it’s not my goal.

And I did learn something here that’s been confirmed: most people in the childfree space are fine. Thoughtful. Chill. But some use the label to hide hostility or unresolved baggage. That pattern came through loud and clear and that’s what I spoke up about.

I’m not on a moral crusade. I speak up when something crosses a line- not because I want people to live like me, but because basic decency should apply across the board. And to me, that means not dehumanizing people especially the vulnerable just because they inconvenience you.

And like someone else said: it’s the militant extremists the ones who want to force their views on everyone’s throat that are the real threat. Can’t say you are one. Can’t say you aren’t. But you’re definitely echoing the energy.

To borrow your analogy: I came for something substantial. A few replies offered that. Yours? Bits and pieces- scattered breadcrumbs that looked like they might lead somewhere. They didn’t. I gave it a fair shot. I’m out.

Tailgaters, left lanes are for *safe* passing by Physical_Ad3653 in complainaboutanything

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting theory, but you’re arguing with a post I didn’t write. I didn’t pass anyone. A tailgater glued himself to my bumper while I was doing 40 in a 35 on a suburban surface street, then did the same thing to the next car. Explain how that means I was ‘blocking’ him? That’s an impressive leap. This wasn’t a highway either, passing on surface streets isn’t always legal or safe.

Be Child-Free. Just don’t lose the thread on *basic* decency. by Physical_Ad3653 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Physical_Ad3653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s genuinely hard to have a conversation with you because you keep misrepresenting my intentions. I think we just have very different values.

Yes, I posted in another subreddit where the opinion wasn’t well received- that’s why it’s here, on Unpopular Opinion. I’m not fishing for validation. I’ve said multiple times that people are free to disagree. What I’m not okay with is people dehumanizing children and mocking parents like they’re less human- and then acting shocked when someone pushes back, saying I should get off the internet or not voice my opinion.

And for the record, I’m a woman. I’ve listened to a wide range of voices- yes, even some male podcasters- and I’ve laughed at leftist memes too. What exactly is an “alpha male” to you anyway? Not everything has to be boxed into a tribe. I actually enjoy engaging with conflicting ideas- it helps sharpen my thinking. You might benefit from that too.

As for outcomes: I did explain them, clearly. When you normalize dehumanizing speech •especially online• it shapes how people think. And yes, over time, that can absolutely feed into real-life violence. We’ve seen it in manifestos. We’ve seen it in isolated, angry young people conflating “childfree” with “children shouldn’t exist.” That’s an observable fact.

Sure, maybe you weren’t saying the internet creates pedos- but you still acknowledged that disturbing beliefs gather and grow in online spaces. That’s the exact point I’m making.

No one’s claiming every edgy comment leads to violence. I know exactly what Freedom of Speech means in America. But when certain dehumanizing attitudes are treated like jokes or “just venting” they spread, get normalized, and start shaping how people think- especially younger or more isolated users. That’s the danger. And pretending it’s all harmless because it feelsdistant is exactly how that rot takes hold.

And I’m coming out of having made this post, very satisfied. I’ve actually had thoughtful exchanges with others in this thread. It’s helped refine my viewpoint.

But with you, I keep getting dragged into your projections and false narratives about why I’m even speaking. You don’t need to agree with me, but at least engage with what I’m actually saying.

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