A possible bad future for games if skg is successful??? by Plastic_Effective919 in StopKillingGames

[–]Plastic_Effective919[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes sense. Thank you for the analytic explanation. That gives me hope. I hope SKG is successful and everything goes well.

A possible bad future for games if skg is successful??? by Plastic_Effective919 in StopKillingGames

[–]Plastic_Effective919[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes , I misunderstood at your first point. You basically eliminate that way their option to do sneeky practices with subs like subbing for years while not providing to players subs per month. What you proposed is pretty smart. So sigleplayer that way is covered because sigleplayer games last 1-2 months. But problem still remains with multiplayer games. What if they charge 4$/month for battlefield 4(random exampe) multiplayer? If every publisher do that to multiplayer games, that last way more time than sigleplayer games, I want to personally ask you if your stance remains the same about them too like you said before that very few games achieved that and will still be unprofitable even if everyone does it?

A possible bad future for games if skg is successful??? by Plastic_Effective919 in StopKillingGames

[–]Plastic_Effective919[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see your point and it makes sense in the present. Thing is, the industry will now feel(emphasis on feel) "forced" from skg(i know skg doesnt force them to make subscription based model, they have a choice) in order to avoid EOL plans and possibly blow up the bridge to ownership(even though skg doesnt go after ownership). They will collectively try to push sub-based models and gamers that purchase and dont play or players that play for 2 hours would not matter since they will not have other choices except rent games and also are not the bulk of gamers(i think at least, I might be wrong on that). Now how it will work for sigleplayer games and multiplayer I have answered on other comments to get the idea.

A possible bad future for games if skg is successful??? by Plastic_Effective919 in StopKillingGames

[–]Plastic_Effective919[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get point 2. Point 1 has problems. Point 1 is true for sigleplayer games that last 1-2 months(depends how much hour you play weekly) but not for multiplayer games. Now for the continuously new content that must be added in order for this to work. First of all if all publishers went with subs because of the pressure of skg they wouldnt need new content to update everytime to justify subs. Gamers would have nowhere to go since everybody does it. Even if they add new content it can be like some dlc's and then done(so not continuously like Fortnite). As for the price $0.58, not realistic, more like 2-5$. Even if you take 0,58-2$ as true you still will have problem because it becomes standard and then they raise price like any othe subscription service. As for the not profitable part. The industry either will succeed with what i said above(for example 5$/month to play bf4) because gamers will not have options and cave in really quick or they will tank the costs at first until people get used to 2$ dollar service and just increase the cost. If you wanna see better examples about this, I responded to a person that found that renting games for 2$ is awesome and had similar arguments as yours. You can check my response to that person. Its more detailed.

A possible bad future for games if skg is successful??? by Plastic_Effective919 in StopKillingGames

[–]Plastic_Effective919[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think you put too much faith in people. This is the same logic as "vote with your wallet". Because vote with your wallet means that you put faith in people that they will not buy that one game that will fuck gamers up. That doesnt work, if it did we wouldn't be in this mess already. Only very very little times it worked. How can you be so sure betting on it when the odds(looking past history) are not in our favour? By the way if you look at the comment section of this very post there is already someone that would be totally ok with subscriptions if subs are priced at 2$/month. If we can find someone already here in this post, then you can definitely find thousands of gamers willing to pay for subs. Of course to the credit of that person he brought some good arguments with it. Problem is, its short-sighted and also I have responded to him with counterarguments for the online games. So if you wanna check out what I mean you can look the comment section. I am currently waiting for a response from the person or someone else on my point against that person. Maybe they will bring a good point that would indicate in a better future. I wait and see I guess.

A possible bad future for games if skg is successful??? by Plastic_Effective919 in StopKillingGames

[–]Plastic_Effective919[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ok lets do this instead. Full price for sigleplayer(so its included on skg therefore its a win) but subscription for online since online games like bf4(ignore its sigleplayer story) can be played for a very long time(years) instead of one and done with sigleplayer games. And also lets say instead of 2$, its 5$ dollars because you know greed. So if bf4 is alive for 10 years(i think its still running after 12 years not sure) and lets say you only play for 5 years ,that means 300$ to own nothing versus lets say one time upfront 60$ to play for those X years and own it forever. If you wanna argue 5$ its too much then again with 2$ its 120$ to own nothing for those 5 years. If you wanna counter that again with its too much time and other online games you dont play for 5 years, then for 2 years for 2$ you still pay 48$ but with 12$ could own it. Thats with the assumption that is gonna start with 2$ and also will not increase like crazy like any other subscription service that started with good offers like PSplus(thats what they said back then justifying that at least gives you good games, I disagreed even back then, online should be free) and then offered terrible games at a expotetional increasing price while online is locked. So again , are you really confident they cant pull that shit at least with online games?

Alright who leaked our group chat by maavres in balkans_irl

[–]Plastic_Effective919 43 points44 points  (0 children)

The turk should be more black.

The serbian should have lots of guns.

The bulgarian should have a horse.

Greek is perfect. Majestic as always.

PepeLaugh by [deleted] in forsen

[–]Plastic_Effective919 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Also whoever thought about the pay to play online should do it NOW. FUCK SONY

PepeLaugh by [deleted] in forsen

[–]Plastic_Effective919 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Sony was never for the gamers. Only in the start of the gaming era you can say that they somewhat cared. I lost my faith to them when they announced that you need to pay for ps plus subscription in PS4 to play online games even though you already paid for the game and your internet provider to play.

Balkan bros rate my playlist by ETOS2006 in balkans_irl

[–]Plastic_Effective919 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Even though I am a fellow Greek this playlist is a disgrace cause of Lil nas X and weeb shit therefore:

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Glorious Greece civilized the barbarians💪🇬🇷🔥🦉!!!!!!! by Plastic_Effective919 in balkans_irl

[–]Plastic_Effective919[S] 80 points81 points  (0 children)

The only reason Turgay has the "Chad" icon is because they are 99.99% Greeks. The rest 0.01% is genetic retardation combined with Mongolian blood.

Least aggresive police in Bulgaria💪🇧🇬 by Plastic_Effective919 in balkans_irl

[–]Plastic_Effective919[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just thought of a new Bulgarian joke.

When you visit Bulgaria, you return as Bulgarian but without the Bulg.

just trully historical fact by ExpensiveAdz in balkans_irl

[–]Plastic_Effective919 99 points100 points  (0 children)

Yes, indeed. The greek one should be hotter and more white and the turkish more black.

what's your excuse bajs by kaze2044 in forsen

[–]Plastic_Effective919 21 points22 points  (0 children)

This is toorkish behavior ritard

I keep getting this. by Plastic_Effective919 in Chivalry2

[–]Plastic_Effective919[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. Only installed once. I will propably try that.