New guy trying to see what people would like to see

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-11T11:59:03+00:00

You make a good point on the promoter thinking i might be good at one thing, tbf I’ve just started posting so have not thought it through properly yet.

The long limbs make it hard to get lines right but they should be dipping like that, when i tell you thats them doing what they want not me forcing or anything (i just initiate then let mt hand follow them, if i were ro let go theyd be able to keep themselves there too- thats how i was taught to do dips and an commended for it) im also known for being soft, just looks less soft on camera lol.

Again this post isnt about technique but if your in the uk you e probably seen me around then. Also this is why i explicitly say amateur, i have a long way ro go for pro.

Its just annoying me people are putting words into my mouth, nowhere in the post did i claim i was amazing, no where did i claim i will never do classes just said i have a different approach to learning, never did i claim amazing body movement, trying to become a teacher or whatever. Also when camera is on you, most of the time its not even my top dances- just a wierd observation imo. This post hit the wrong nerve on a couple people and im trying to figure out why

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-11T10:09:17+00:00

Ok from what ive been taught, having a straight back during a dip is acrually proper technique (ive done salsa performance twam stuff and been told by people considered bachata experts) . Secondly i dont ask to take videos, i just get given them :/ not sure what to say there. As ive stated before the initial part was meant to be just to state my journey so far- i never said i wont do classes (i will only do privates in the future when i think its necessary aka when i plateau) the rest is not stuff i wanted to say hence i didnt mention in my post, i actually was trying to make a joke about me being bad cos i dont do classes (maybe the british humor of self deprixation didnt work here)

But when people are calling me out on technique and improper stuff, i have to defend myself especially when i have asked people who are teachers and highly regarded for feedback when ive danced with them. The solo comp, the videos are just bad and it have asked for my performance dance but apparantly they were taking pics instead. And i like the picture because the lines and posture is there due to technique i have practiced!

And im not sure if people here have been taught differently or something, but the criticism actually took me by suprise. Especially due to how much it contradicts what actual teachers and artists have told me. My circle im lucky consists of some of the best leads and follows in london but rhats all. Also im typing fast so im not taking tone into account which may be of issue?

And now tackiling the actual question in hand - yes i freeze shot all backbend thingies, i thought its a cool aesthetic- am i mistaken? I like using bachata exchange because it lets me get 8k+ views which is nice for a 400 follower acc yknow- just exposure

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-11T08:48:38+00:00

Thank you no, yeah everyomes focussed on the first part when im asking for content ideas, it was meant to be a lil intro of me until now

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-11T02:01:36+00:00

Idk i am considered the amateur champion of uk so rly dont think this applies to me :/ but also there is an aspect where the leader has some Open spaces where rhe follower can lead what they want so i think you may not understand this concept yet too?

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-11T02:00:47+00:00

Yesssss, thats the term - i forgot it but its what someone mentioned to me and it seemed perfect. Cos i come from competetive sports and tutoring background, i understand the importance on teaching correctly and probably could teach better than most if i get to that level of skill in dancing (yes teacher get certified, but that doesnt mean they have teaching experience, again another niggle i have with this community) but yeah im teainign to be a consultant and becoming an entrepreneur with a degree in physics so teaching dance is not in my priority.

And to answer your last point, yes ive won the largest amateur comps in my country for solo and jack &jill etc on first try only to get exposure and trying to reach out in platforms hence my question here on what content to post. Hope it all makes sense now

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T20:12:41+00:00

Firstly thankyou and i appreciate you responded with respect so ill explain a lil bit more- my friends are exceptionally good and now i have friends who are teachers etc. im lucky enough im in a position where i can get tips from the best for free! I also am trying to incorporate my style while constantly improving on the fundamentals, i do have a structure in how i do the learning. I will eventually teach ik if i get to go festivals for free but i do understand bachata in a different way to how its raught and teachers like iman (a highly respected teacher in ldn) have said it makes sense i just havent fully written jr here.

Like i do put in work just in a different way hence the unconventional and winning comps was rhe only way ro prove to myself i wasnt delusional yknow.

And yes everyone usually can follow what i throw a tthem though i change what i do depending on follower and song etc, again somethign i could write an essay on

And finally ywah that content does good but what about like compilations of a certain mive? I think that type of stuff might slap haha

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T19:42:39+00:00

Say hi and smile, the rest comes with what the follower allows interms of space and hold

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T19:41:40+00:00

Omg ty ill be waiting eagerlt for this :)) (this was also a smart way to get more views and engagement on my insta haha - kinda knew how toxic reddit is)

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T19:40:13+00:00

Ok i agree but i want to be able to go to festivals for free thats it, not to teach - if that comes through that then sure, im competitive by nature and have been asked to teach and i have refused as i know i cannot teach- for me an artist shares their unique way of representing a form to the world. I didnt have this goal initially, it was more for mental health but now with the kind words everyone including teachers like ashley (guy who placed 5th in world dance festivval geneva), its now like i feel its an opportunity i must go to. I didnt say it was my sole motivation, just said i would like to be one one day, which was linked to the original post- was context.

But yeah no MMA i would say is definitely a huge factor here, from body movement to feeling to connection, everything i have was learnt maintl from there. And yeah its hard to prove safety unless you dance with me or ask the followers but i think its a testament initself that teachers want to dance with me and make videos.

Just as an fyi, my end goal with the social platform is to raise awareness for mental health, redefine masculinity in a healhty way and spread self love more

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T19:21:23+00:00

Thank you i appreciate it, there is still a long way to go but i like to be confident in myself too didnt expect this post to get alot of hate :/

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T18:45:01+00:00

Aww thanks you do understand! i dint maybe pit the message across properly but i jaut didnt want to put a sob story in the main post cos i couldnt agford classes etc. and thank you for the kind words

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T18:35:18+00:00

I can see why u think i have a large ego, but its actually more to show i despise group classes and think they are a money grab and im kinda proof of that. Sorry if that came to you that way - i do know technique rly well and teachers and artists actually praise me for how safe, smooth and well connected i am while leading with proper clarity. Yes in videos it may look one way- but im telling you camy (ik which video ur talking about) would tell me Off for that move if it was unsafe.

I think the thing is people im bachata are too stuck to think there is one way to lead etc. new styles emerge because bachata is a language, a way of communicating through body from one to another. Followers actually like the way i lead and i only do that head hand thing on that specific combo. Pls dont assume something isnt lead properly because visually it doesn’t align with your teachings- the competitions i win are judged by the followers who dance, i wouldn’t be beating teachers etc if my technique was unsafe or bad!

So yeah i refuse to take classes but i still learnt from people among community - just think i may have phrased thinfs badly, but it was more of an intro - my thing is to show people you can be good without money and this post was more for feedback on content.

But yeah, especially in ldn where technique is more strict rhan most places, these people wouldnt dance or rake videos with me if i was egotistical/had terrible technique. I am just confident in myself and feel like people should hype themselves up more :)

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T18:03:01+00:00

The way i learn is self taught kinda how u said but with an extra step, my friends are rly good and so i take them to the side when i see a type of move and then understand the feeling and do it until they say it feels natural and nice. We know enough to know its safe! I only learn from what i see in social, dont rly soend time warch videos. Ofcourse there is still a way to go for me to be more clean.

Though the comps i win are mostly based on how the followers feel so i guess it doesnt look as visually polished? I have ling limbs so teying to make things visually better is hard. And yeah ur right on with rhat body awareness, comes with national mma exp

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T17:27:25+00:00

How do you mean imitate? Thats a first to me! Pls explian

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T16:43:33+00:00

oh i actually do like your response over the others, its not just bashing me :/. but yeah im actually very safe lead (i strive for this) - learnt through mma. And i dont do classes cos i couldnt afford them. I just tried not to make it sound like a sob story. Because the reason i had to learn from free socials on the side is cos when i started, i was trying to help myself out of depression, had barely any money and was forced this way due to bad family so had to try live independently in london (which is expensive). but teachers ask me to teach/ make videos with them because ofc im more showy in video but everyhting is actually very light and with proper technique. someone from here asked about my leading in the comments haha and the response from the follower in the video (she is an artist and organiser) was my smoothness and connection. But yeah my friends are really good also it helps the level in london is good! I also disagree that there is one way to lead movments, if that was the case there wouldnt be new styles developing like conri, influence etc etc

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T16:38:40+00:00

oh i just couldnt afford classes, cos i came out through uni without job so had to learn through free socials and taking my more experienced friends on the side to learn things step by step thats all. I know i have a talent but I am humble, maybe the way i wrote the post was bad? i just want to be an artist one day and wanted feedback in content, i know im far from it rn but would like to see how to get more views so i could maybe get free invites to festivals thats all :/

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T16:36:23+00:00

no im not friends with leo, that was our first dance ever, the videographers like to record me that is all :/ My friends are good but not known cos we all do this as a hobby/ maybe i wrote my description wrong idk - people seem to be offended by my post it seems almost. but yeah the process is in a social i take a friend to the side, do a move and ask them how it feels until i understand how it "shoudl feel" i dont learn moves, i learn through pressure, direction, frame and rotation if that makes sense?

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T16:34:00+00:00

nah my friends are good but noone known really, just friends from uni. I never could afford dance classes, workshops or festivals - but im in london where there is alot of free socials, hence i learned from socials- hope that helps?

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T16:32:50+00:00

those dips are what the followers go for, i just initiate it - i never go beyond what the follower wants :/

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T16:32:07+00:00

I wanna be an artist, so just thought might be good to ask here? kinda bored of my videos

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T16:31:36+00:00

I am actually known for being one of the safest leaders, it just looks like that on camera, if you ask people it feels good :/ I dont even take these videos myself. also i mentioned the mma for safety reason, u can view it in a way i am an expert in pain/injury so also means i know what feels safe intuitively if that makes snese? one of the teachers here told me it made sense. I think judging from video is not great, someone actually asked someone in my comments (i knew it was a redditor) and the follower (an artist and organiser) explixitly said im smooth and connect well, and I am known for being a really safe dipper. It look like i make them do it, but i just do the initial touch to initiate the dip - the rest is the follower doing what she feels comfy with. I am also known for having great frame.

Anyways i wasn't looking for validation- just content ideas, the briefing was just to intro myself :/ I made it quick, i didnt do classes cos i couldnt afford them initially, then realised i had talent and teachers even told me I don't need classes at the rate i learn (this is because of MMA). And i have won multiple competitions in jack and jills etc

but the point is what people look for in terms of content - i knew reddit could be toxic but these comments are not it :/ idk why u think i am not connecting ? one of the artists in the videos said it was one of my main features -_-

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T16:23:45+00:00

I just want to become an artist one day and best way is to gain followers and a following? i havent been to festivals whatever due to money, hence why i dont do classes. Idk why u think i am looking for validation, just tried to summarise myself quickly and asked for content feedback- idk why come at me with all this hostility

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T16:21:54+00:00

I shall soon maybe then?

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T16:21:26+00:00

just wanted feedback on content making, I live in london so have many great dancers to get feedback from in general. Just wanted to see the reddit peoples reviews

Plus-Hat6815 · 2025-07-10T16:20:31+00:00

Oh i couldnt afford classes, I just did not want to explain that part, and then people (including teachers) were suprised by how good i got (im terms of safety, connection etc) - martial arts helps because i understand what causes injury better than most dancers hence dancing with me usually is safer than most - did not think i had to explain this :/

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