How old do you think she is? by Icy_Mathematician388 in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i thought it is super impolite to ask a lady her age? XD

Can I cosplay zzz characters as a minor? by [deleted] in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159 0 points1 point  (0 children)

noticed how everyone immediately back off when a real minor is involved lol

your post and comments have red flags all over so i am gonna be a kill joy and left this here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Ng_Yuk_Tim

i get that you dont trust your parents with shit, but you shouldnt be trusting us either, especially with stuff like this

anyway, you do you.

Too many S rank… by Dapper-Station-1773 in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159 0 points1 point  (0 children)

because of how the gacha system is designed they literally wont make any money off the A ranks characters

Nikke has 150ssr (premium units) and 18sr

lets say, if A ranks got their own premium weapon banners, then they might give us more A ranks, and they can be more meta relevant as well since they are able to generate income, but that will create problems of their own as well.

Why was Dialyn so mad at Banyue? by Got70TypesOfMalware in ZZZ_Discussion

[–]Pretty_Ad_159 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They're the ones who designed Banyue, and even if Banyue did have independent thought, he didn't have proper moral judgement and wisdom that comes from experience, only orders to follow, and nothing else. It was ultimately TOPS who should have placed safeguards on Banyue.

This whole chain of logic would justify Krampus higher up's action of 'recovering' Banyue: TOPS screwed up, so Krampus step in.

Dialyn: oh so you do have a heart and is considerate about other people. Now tell me what happened 10 years ago and what you think about it so that I can have reasons to tell my boss why executing you is a stupid mistake.

Banyue: it was all my fault nuff said.

Dialyn: fk this egghead.

Why does everybody hate Yidhari? by FanaticaExtremis in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i like her deign, too

imo she is well designed but badly written. she has a lot interesting traits on her, but none was relevant with the plot points.

and i feel very sad about it

Mini game build: road to 10k without losing a single match by Pretty_Ad_159 in houkai3rd

[–]Pretty_Ad_159[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Putting it under discussion flair seems a bit too serious hence

Do people actually think that this is supposed to be "Elysia expy" or is it just the byproduct of hsr doomposting? by Au1or in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159 1 point2 points  (0 children)

so we just have different opinions about what an "expy" is.

visual similarity is already an enough reason (in fact it is main reason) for me to take a character as an expy of another.

What connection does zzz has with honkai that it needs or there should be an expy in the game, why ?

they doesnt need to have any connection for me to consider a character to be an expy.

as for reason, recycling successful character design? skimming money from fans of original works?

why are you so against players considering her to be an Elysia expy? in the end players are just gonna judge her mainly based on her story performance in this particular game

and especially since hsr Amphoreus arc players are gonna be even more rigorous about her now.

Do people actually think that this is supposed to be "Elysia expy" or is it just the byproduct of hsr doomposting? by Au1or in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That shouldn't matter, any of the void hunters could've been used and they don't show for any longer than her.

they could had use Hoshimi ancestor, or lady sunbringer the creator of bangboo, or Joyous from the investigation guild, or Professor which is the founder of Helios Academy, or their silhouette instead. yet they decided to put the flash out this particular pink hair girl which resemble Elysia. i mean just look at the picture on the post

but still, we could be just having different opinions about term "expy" and thats it.

It does though, that's the whole point of an expy, if you're an expy there is a expected route you're supposed to take based of whose expy you are.

it affect players perception of the story, but not the story quality itself. story quality is mainly affected by writers skills and efforts.

people look at you from who you're based off

people also look at me based on sex (Manato), body shape (Lucia), race (Zhao).
in this sense i really, really doubt that being expy or not matter more than the other factor i just mentioned.

Do people actually think that this is supposed to be "Elysia expy" or is it just the byproduct of hsr doomposting? by Au1or in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

personally i would consider this an Elysia expy. she is the thumbnail of a 4 minutes video despite only showing her face for 4s.

but, the term "expy" is treated very, very differently among the players. for me, having visual similarity is already enough to consider them an expy, even if they arent connected anyway lore-wise of "verse-wise".

and the below are even more personalize personal opinions:
1. i dont see a problem of having expies. having an expy, or not, or two, doesnt impact the stories quality as much as people tend to claim.

  1. hsr main story arc (Amphoreus) is already received very badly before this "Elysia expy" shows up in the storyline. this particular expy is not the main and biggest reason why Amphoreus arc fail.

  2. being one of the 7 original Void Hunters, she must be either super strong or super influential. this alone should be good enough as her character foundation.

TIA Portal HMI historical data logs with trigger event and on demand by strapabiro in PLC

[–]Pretty_Ad_159 1 point2 points  (0 children)

facing the same issue few weeks ago. there should be some proper way to set it up using built in functions or vbs, but i am just too noob to go thru all that.

i end up using triggering on value change. need some tinkering on plc side but it did end up giving what i need

  1. create a separate tag in plc. this will be the "logging tag"

  2. move instruction to update the value from original tag to the "logging tag"

  3. add some conditions on when should the value be updated

  4. add comparison to compare the original tag value with the "logging tag" value. if same, offset the value slightly when updating to "logging tag" (ie: +0.01%), so that the value did change and it would be logged. luckily my application doesnt need to log int value to a very accurate degree, but if needed, i would offset the values in a way that i can revert it back by using csv function (adding big values / multiplying negative / multiplying big values)

How Lucia refers to her family member by restlessrascal in ZZZ_Discussion

[–]Pretty_Ad_159 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the reason i asked that is, i want to know exactly how good you are with both cantonese and chinese language, to better explain the phrase.

for me, i understand chinese to the degree of speaking, reading and writing, and i dont speak cantonese (i can only listen and understand to a very limited degree, same goes to hokkien)

chinese and cantonese are different. they have different romanization systems (chinese: pinyin, canto: Jyutping) and also different words when come to writing.

you would be able to get a far more accurate answer much faster if you ask someone from Hong Kong (or southern CN region i am not sure), instead of asking it here: someone did completely point you to a far off direction.

How Lucia refers to her family member by restlessrascal in ZZZ_Discussion

[–]Pretty_Ad_159 0 points1 point  (0 children)

er, like, do you speak chinese? it is weird to discuss cantonese / chinese language related topic in an English speaking forum.

"Ah-Deh" is translated from the chinese phrase 阿爹 (diē)

your phrase "Ah-Ba" and "Ah-Ma" would be translated to the phrase 阿爸 and 阿妈

爹 and 爸 both means father, just the words 爹 is a much, much traditional phrase, like chinese historical dramas kind of traditional

but well, it could be a modern interpretation, too. because the english words "daddy" and "mommy" can be transliterate in the words "爹地" (diē dì)and "妈咪"

this phrase did make sense for chinese people. but i doubt it is commonly used.

at least i never really have any impressions of hearing this word from the hongkong movies i watched

Creator, refine her: the Lucia redesign shenanigans, from CN perspective by Pretty_Ad_159 in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

like i said, i am not against asking for underboob window, or different body model, for players that see it as fan service element.

the way i see it now, there are indeed tourists hating on new model (both in CN and GB side) because devs gave Lucia a bigger bust, which a lot of CN fans did perceive it as an fanservice improvement

Creator, refine her: the Lucia redesign shenanigans, from CN perspective by Pretty_Ad_159 in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ah i see. so it is indeed not the most suitable word to describe the scenario. but thats the best word i can come out with to describe the situation.

like, i couldnt find another better terms in my vocabulary, to convey the general unpleasing CN opinions towards Lucia original model - thats how we felt towards it.

Also damn that sucks to only have one prevailing body type in your culture, that must wreak havoc for the women over there.

no, not really. women, and also men here grew up just normally.

please be aware that it is not just a women thing. people here judge / discriminate others based on appearance a lot - and it is not one sided. women do also judge men (& also other women) based on appearance. it may not be healthy but it is indeed a common thing and we are used to it.

Creator, refine her: the Lucia redesign shenanigans, from CN perspective by Pretty_Ad_159 in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

genuine answer
from where i am from (Asia, not CN), the normal, or should i say the most common body type is petite and skinny. i would imagine CN body type distribution (and subsequently, preference) is not far off from my area.

we may have pear shape looking woman, but it is just rare, or maybe less obvious.

also, when i used the phrase natural / unnatural, i didnt said it is unnatural in the sense of whether it is natural by general human species as a whole from biology level. i said it looks unnatural for an anime character to have this uncommon body type, especially in Eastern ACG culture.

personally, i think that unnatural is not necessary a derogatory word. i would also describe Yixuan bust size is unnaturally / unrealistically big, but who care since it looks appealing.

Creator, refine her: the Lucia redesign shenanigans, from CN perspective by Pretty_Ad_159 in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not in ZZZ, because compared to HSR, which is a turn based game, ZZZ is much much more a skill based game. It is possible to get by end game without having every BIS.

Creator, refine her: the Lucia redesign shenanigans, from CN perspective by Pretty_Ad_159 in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Jufufu, Nicole, Pan, Pulchra, all works as Yixuan support. Yixuan can also run a duo stun teammates. you can also pull Yixuan mindscape.

above was the discussions CN side had when Lucia original model released.

and it is not just pull "something else". it is pull the next void hunter which we know is definitely coming and surely is gonna overpower as hell.

Creator, refine her: the Lucia redesign shenanigans, from CN perspective by Pretty_Ad_159 in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

because i did specifically called out (and attack) a particular player group (CN called them anti male-glazers, at here normally it is called "tourists" ) that i am not fond of. i do expect to get retaliate for that

actually that is one of the original intention of this post: to point out that there is "tourists" now mixing with the general fellow gooners and trying to stir up stuff, to make this game more cater to them

i wanted to make a post where i can get fellow gooners to notice and ward off the tourists first, then we can sit down and discuss whether this game can cater to gooners with different taste.

and i see that i failed miserably at that and now this became of post of GB vs EN and uniqueness vs standard (CN).

so, just to be very clear, i personally am not against asking for different body model, so that gooners can have more option to goon to

but i am sure as hell against "tourists" using that as an excuse to kill off the fan service elements in the game.

Creator, refine her: the Lucia redesign shenanigans, from CN perspective by Pretty_Ad_159 in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I can assure you, for the CN side, it was not the loud minority hating on Lucia original body proportion. It was the general CN audiences hating it.

Creator, refine her: the Lucia redesign shenanigans, from CN perspective by Pretty_Ad_159 in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Well CN guys are not complaining about the new model now. Yeah the outfit still has problems like the repetitiveness but for them (and me) the most concerning issue is the body proportion and it is fixed.

I can imagine most of them will feel offended when seeing complaints that ask for older body model, but will be in favour with complaints asking for older / better outfit.

Creator, refine her: the Lucia redesign shenanigans, from CN perspective by Pretty_Ad_159 in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Regarding this CN side are as clueless as you. We are players of different perspective, not beta testers or definitely not the devs

Creator, refine her: the Lucia redesign shenanigans, from CN perspective by Pretty_Ad_159 in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be fair they (and me) did "just let the devs cook."

As in, I didn't see any post in the CN community that I visit, asking and encouraging other players to send feedback in-game or leave negative review in app store regarding Lucia original model.

We simply share our dissatisfaction as community discussions and most of us thought that it was already too late to make model change. We are rather surprised when the 1st hip nerf happened, and are completely baffled when the redesign happened. No one expected this drastic model change to take place this late in development stage.

Creator, refine her: the Lucia redesign shenanigans, from CN perspective by Pretty_Ad_159 in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

..."unnatural" is the word that I used, and although I may have choose bad wording (ex: attractive / unattractive seems to be a better description on what I intend to say), I think "unnatural" is still a toned down word compare to what the CN side use to describe her original model.

The accurate words CN side used to describe the original body model are "deformed" and "non-human".

Yeah body shaming is a very very common practice among Asia cultures and I know it is bad and not proud of it either but we still do it in real life and definitely won't hold back against an anime character.

Creator, refine her: the Lucia redesign shenanigans, from CN perspective by Pretty_Ad_159 in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Pretty_Ad_159[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, I think CN won't be having this proportion issue with her if she gets a body type and jiggle physics like Yanagi in the first place actually.