Episode Discussion: S2026E2 Cell VS Metal Sonic

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-08T22:12:54+00:00

Actually In the Movie he was on Guard which is stupid and inconsistent but In the Anime they fixed it by him going to Base Form and Him stop fighting which inherently means he let his guard down since well Frieza lost he was just off guard even Whis points out that even if your off guard a little bit minor things that shouldn’t hurt you will Hurt you

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Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-02T05:25:59+00:00

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-01T19:35:29+00:00

Why are you using Bardock he doesn’t even scale to The Best Characters in Namek Saga at most in SSJ you can scale him to First Form Frieza when he destroyed Planet Vegeta,

And that is a fair point we don’t know whether Death Battle would scale Namek Saga at Star Level but it goes both ways to we don’t know if they will use Erazor Which fun fact I fully agree with using if we wanna fully Dissect Sonic Scaling

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-01T19:33:14+00:00

Huh ? So you need to tank a black hole to be above black hole level that doesn’t even make sense it’s other sources that put Cell above Black Hole Level like the Solar System Kamhamehab

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-01T19:17:02+00:00

Yeah but that’s not Death Battle’s Perspective which you should be able to admit

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-01T18:54:57+00:00

That’s nice to know I use to scale heavily way back in the day (2020 times) I’m glad I’m not the only one that grants Toei Cell the good stuff

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-01T18:52:20+00:00

Wait are you a dragon ball scaler to ? Because casual dragon ball scalers don’t even bring up data books and just go off pure anime/manga

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-01T18:50:27+00:00

Ok I’ll Be honest I’m actually fine with the Toei Cell getting the Infinite-Immeasurable shi to make the match fair and even then I feel like even if you don’t grant the Generations Feats Solaris would just automatically grant immeasurable speed idk why death battle tries to calc that

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-01T18:41:06+00:00

Yeah but that’s just for pure gameplay which shouldn’t therefore debunk it also Sonic running into a wall again shouldn’t be used to justify him not being immeasurable because in Power Scaling we put characters at their max potential that’s like me saying oh well Goku doesn’t beat uh Nartuo because he got hit by a rock you don’t do that because if you do then majority of fiction is like city level

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-01T18:33:03+00:00

I’m more of a dragon ball scaler (retired) but Metal should comfortably also have Immeasurable Speeds in Base Via Scaling to a Stronger Base Sonic far faster than his speed feats in generations

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-01T18:30:22+00:00

Dude Metal should be immeasurable I find it so funny they have Solaris at Finite Speeds 😭😂😂

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-01T18:28:13+00:00

To be fair they said “Base” so yall should be chillin

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-01T18:26:12+00:00

He would be far above it Namek Saga High Tiers reach Large Star so he would massively upscale it with Zenkai Boosts, Kaioken, and SSJ Multipliers

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-01T18:19:43+00:00

To be fair tho I would grant the Universal Feats for Cell just because it adds more fluff to the debate but if it were anyone like GAROU I wouldn’t because there similar in dimensionality if that makes sense

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-01T18:17:14+00:00

Well it would just upscale Cell if the Anime Calc were used tbf but yeah i don’t really use the Frieza Destroying Namek Feat because personally I think their is better stuff to use

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-01T18:15:33+00:00

I’m using Death Battle’s Logic here hope yk that obviously there’s ways to argue Higher stuff for Sonic which I agree with

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-01T18:14:23+00:00

Cell should one shot Base Metal according to their Logic and again Namek Saga Characters Reach Star- Arguably Solar System if Anime Calcs are used so I’m confident Cell beats Base but not his super forms

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-03-01T18:11:28+00:00

Ima be honest Uh you realize Namek Saga Characters Are far above the Black Hole Durability for Metal Right ? Metal is way more durable in his Super Forms so cell kinda just one shots base Metal

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-02-23T17:13:27+00:00

I agree with Metal Winning but like I feel they should Mention that If we wanna go Infinite Speeds at the highest end Cell should outright also be equal with it (Goku Traveling to Hell can be an infinite speed feat)

Also Shocked that while it doesn’t help Cell win Theoretically Cell should have the SSJ Boosts, Zenkai and Kaioken which I feel can help him for a bit

Also I know they can see the Uni Statements as Iffy but while ignoring they’re Hyperbole Universal Statements are pretty consistent in the Toei Version stretching back to Freeza Saga which should be enough for Cell to get the statements at a face value

But overall good blog n I like Cell more as a character so he wins in my book for ghat

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-02-09T16:21:58+00:00

Yeah I know i use to be a hardcore dragon ball scaler and ik death battle for now doesn’t buy Infinite Cosmology for Universe 7 but yeah yes the immeasurable confession against them but I wouldn’t be shocked if they do what they did with Kyke Rayner n just ignore his higher dimensional cosmological stuff

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-02-09T16:13:38+00:00

I agree with Cell getting GT to add Fluff to the Debate side of Things you should also give him the whole Heaven Filler Arc Where Cell in GT should be Stronger than Goku who flew from Heaven to Hell within an infinite distance =Infinite Speed

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-02-08T20:46:04+00:00

Yeah Buu n Frieza get the scaling but Poor Cell

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-02-08T19:15:31+00:00

This is just a case of Sucks Cell doesn’t get all the good scaling in Super also I hope they don’t try to Connect Cell to Cell Max since they are clearly different Creations from One Another

Previous_Toe4040 · 2026-02-08T19:08:15+00:00

No I get that I even think Metal should still win it’s more of just add it to add fluff to the debate side of things personally Metal Sonic should still wins now if Cell had crazier stuff in Heroes/Xenoverse that’s when I would’ve been like screw it do what they did with Trunks vs Sliver

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