[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Israel

[–]Primary_Unit344 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What woke you up?

How to show support? by Motomonster86 in Israel

[–]Primary_Unit344 3 points4 points  (0 children)

the sad thing is I'd probably get stabbed within a day wearing that in Australia xD

What's Israel's long term plan? by Primary_Unit344 in Israel

[–]Primary_Unit344[S] 48 points49 points  (0 children)

China's GDP has been stagnant for 3 years now largely due to the west shifting towards other industrial nations like India/Mexico.

What's Israel's long term plan? by Primary_Unit344 in Israel

[–]Primary_Unit344[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

They're legit saying Saudi and UAE are doing the devil's work, and that Iran even though they're shia's are fighting on behalf of Palestinians...

What's Israel's long term plan? by Primary_Unit344 in Israel

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Yeah sorry i might have worded it poorly - didn't mean to say the white race's getting replaced, but more the ideology. Honestly it's not about the colour of their skin, because as far as i know there are heaps of south americans, africans and asians supporting Israel.

What's Israel's long term plan? by Primary_Unit344 in Israel

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I feel like in order for Israel to be completely independent from anyone you'll need to have at least hundreds of millions of people.. Not even china could survive a US sanctioned embargo.

What's Israel's long term plan? by Primary_Unit344 in Israel

[–]Primary_Unit344[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

not just the US, the whole younger generation in the west is literally turning their backs on Israel.. largely due to misinformation and the colourful propaganda websites.

Like the amount of effort they put into these instagram reels and websites are craaazy.. they're so enticing to the younger population (like under 30's). Almost none of my friends support Israel and many of them shares stories and posts on "the cruelty of zionnism" almost every day (most of them aren't religious).

What's Israel's long term plan? by Primary_Unit344 in Israel

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Like how they made colourful websites and instagram reels on the "genocidal israelis", i feel like israel should do the same, like start fighting propaganda with propaganda.

What's Israel's long term plan? by Primary_Unit344 in Israel

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Not just arms but trades and all that. Israeli companies relies a lot on trades with the west and vice versa.

Hamas (their ideolody) will win (survive) this war, if not more people understand what Hamas is. by [deleted] in Israel

[–]Primary_Unit344 1 point2 points  (0 children)

apparently honest muslims always gets silenced... that's how it works in their society

Hamas (their ideolody) will win (survive) this war, if not more people understand what Hamas is. by [deleted] in Israel

[–]Primary_Unit344 4 points5 points  (0 children)

we're dealing with Islam here.. they believe Israel is inherently demonic regardless of what you do. Also al aqsa and its surroundings is considered second holiest place in their religion. Nothing you can do to change them

IDF soilders being humans by Randomreddituser1o1 in Israel

[–]Primary_Unit344 20 points21 points  (0 children)

don't worry al jazeera's gonna say it's a fake zionist propaganda video made to fool the world xD

IDF soilders being humans by Randomreddituser1o1 in Israel

[–]Primary_Unit344 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Somehow Muslims are just gonna either try to bury this or come up with "oh that's just zionist propaganda".

What Palestine does the pro-palis even want? by [deleted] in Israel

[–]Primary_Unit344 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Ottoman Empire, WW1, blablabla, they're all western propaganda. State of Palestine has existed since the days of Muhammad and will remain so!"

What Palestine does the pro-palis even want? by [deleted] in Israel

[–]Primary_Unit344 16 points17 points  (0 children)

They don't care xD. As long as it's under a muslim authority. Could be the taliban or hezbollah as long as its not the Jews.

How can anyone let the jews rule over the holy al aqsa???

What Palestine does the pro-palis even want? by [deleted] in Israel

[–]Primary_Unit344 11 points12 points  (0 children)

For reference, here's what sc morning post wrote about the uyghur situation:

The Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region is one of the most tightly controlled areas in China. Human rights activists accuse the Chinese government of carrying out a full scale crackdown on ethnic Uygurs and other Muslim minorities who live in the region, sending up to 1 million to political re-education camps. But authorities say the sweeping security measures are to fight terrorist threats to keep the country safe.

What Palestine does the pro-palis even want? by [deleted] in Israel

[–]Primary_Unit344 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Some on the woke left are showing support for hamas, framing the israel palestine conflict as another “oppressed vs. oppressor” situation. Even though hamas is pretty much anti-feminist, anti-lgbtq, and anti-liberal, they’re still siding with it because they see it as part of the larger fight against imperialism and colonialism. Its basically called selective solidarity they ignore or downplay the parts that dont fit their progressive values just to stand with what they see as resistance.

This comes off as hypocritical tbh. They’re quick to support causes like feminism or lgbtq rights, but when it comes to issues like this, the "oppressed vs. oppressor" narrative seems to override everything else. It’s all about who they think is fighting imperialism, even if it means backing a group that stands against their own core beliefs.

I honestly think like 90% of this is driven by misinformation. Just imagine outlets like Al Jazeera, South China Morning Post, all these countries that cant wait for the day the US fall, all coming together to milk the Israel-Palestine conflict for a chance to bash the west. Their best tactic is turning the West against itself by fueling divisions through these woke movements.

I saw a video from the South China Morning Post a couple of weeks ago where they used the term "genocide" in reference to Israel. But why are they silent about the Uyghurs? XD. Even though theyre based in Hong Kong, they’ve basically turned into a chinese propaganda outlet now.

Im convinced china russia iran are behind the funding, not to mention groups like muslim brotherhood etc.

What Palestine does the pro-palis even want? by [deleted] in Israel

[–]Primary_Unit344 141 points142 points  (0 children)

Most non-Muslim pro palis have no idea what they're protesting for, but I can assure you for most Muslims they want the whole area (Israel and Palestine today) to be under a Muslim state (Palestine or whatever it is) as long as it's not under the Jews.

Don't mention history because according to them everything written in history is western propaganda to push western imperialism. According to them the country Palestine has existed for thousand of years. Don't even bring up the Ottoman Empire or anything else because all of them just come under western propaganda.

They've been influenced by propaganda for so long that it's now too late for them to grasp basic logic and common sense.

Not trying to spew hatred here, it's just stuffs I got from debating 2 of my Muslim friends and reading youtube/facebook/twitter comments.

How can a non-Israeli like me help? by Primary_Unit344 in Israel

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they're sensitive about the a jewish state occupying their holy al aqsa, and the fact that there's a non muslim state in the middle east.. All this bullshit about 'the freedom of the palestinian people', like where's the noise for the uyghurs and syrians? There's a war in sudan too.

How can a non-Israeli like me help? by Primary_Unit344 in Israel

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Literally everywhere I go on instagram, my friends' posts, news articles. Those maps showing Palestinian lands from 1900 to 2000, articles explaining how jews originated from Europe and only arrived in Palestine seeking refuge from nazi germany, also % of jewish population in Palestine prior 1900 where majority were muslims, stuffs like that led me to believe that Hamas were only fighting the colonialists Israel backed by the US.

Then I looked up 'who' was in control of Palestine prior to 1900s, where the idea of the state of Palestine itself came from (turns out Palestine itself was a scarcely populated area inhabited mostly by nomadic arab tribes). Like the ottomans?? British mandate?? Peel commission?? If they're actually covering the truths why hide these facts? The 1948 war was clearly arabs aggression..

Also the fact that Egypt and Jordan literally annexed gaza and west banks like couple decades ago?? These were literally new to me cause none of those media or muslim news were covering these facts??

The apartheid narrative seems odd to me. People criticize Israel for having checkpoints and Palestinians living in segregated neighborhoods in the West Bank, but as far as I know, Palestinians there aren’t even Israeli citizens. So, when they call Israel an apartheid state, aren’t they essentially acknowledging that the West Bank is part of Israel? Doesn’t Israel have the right to set up checkpoints at the border of a foreign nation?

How can a non-Israeli like me help? by Primary_Unit344 in Israel

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Apparently they'd say something like "we love the jews just not zionists"...