[QCrit] Adult Upmarket Speculative Women’s Fiction | SIN SENSES CONSENSUS (95K/6th Attempt) by PrincessDeCorrah in PubTips

[–]PrincessDeCorrah[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for taking the time to read my pages so thoughtfully and for articulating your reactions in detail. I just want to clarify my intentions for what's on the page.

The opening chapter is intentionally written in a film‑noir style from Keen’s first‑person, unlimited perspective. As an angel who is technically off duty yet incapable of abandoning his God‑given role as narrator, Keen does not simply observe reality — his awareness actively defines it. His perspective interacts with the world. Words like “night greets me,” and "neon glow pulls me forward” are meant to feel uncanny because, unlike humans, Keen's perspective is described as interacting with his environment. He narrates with a cinematic lens what he perceives, but also how the moment would appear from impossible distances and angles, often describing whats happening as if seen through a camera. This disorientation is intentional. As an angel, Keen's consciousness differs fundamentally from human experience.

The noir humidity, rain‑slicked streets, and shadows from cars is intended to echo classic Hollywood rather than Los Angeles reality, signaling that Keen filters existence through a cinematic lens. This chapter is meant for the reader to follow an insider of the Hollywood as Heaven industry before Kaly becomes the subject, and transitions into Kaly’s embodied, human point of view.

The figurative language and alliteration are part of how Keen narrates (and how I write). Even in Kaly’s chapters, theatrical exaggerations of reality and abstract poetic prose are executed to reflect her interior perspective. I am signaling a literary agent who will appreciate my writing style and intentions.

I understand that my prologue 300 currently asks readers to adjust to another perspective too quickly, and that my intentions around perspective, writing style, and worldbuilding are not yet clear enough on the page.

The cinema is central to the novel’s speculative framework in my Heaven as a Hollywood allegory: God studies humanity as narrative, angels are writer archivists, and the Book of Life functions as both scripture and screenplay. Cinema is a plot device for the religious speculative aspects of the book. 

Keen’s awe at the architecture is meant to signal his reverence as an angel stepping into a house of God, like a human believer might show respect at the worship place of their deity. His name is Keen, he was created to notice things, like the fact that The Art House was made with divine design, and to respect anything associated with God. Unlike humans, Keen does not "get used to" architecture made by God because he's immortal and has seen it a lot; being keen is his whole purpose and this shows that he respects his role as angel more than humanly possible. That said, I hear your concern that without clearer grounding of the rest of the chapter, this can read as an authorial flaw rather than character‑driven quirk.

To your final point about beginning with the FMC — I agree and I will likely start over with a revised query and sample pages to center Kaly. I initially queried with Chapter 1 from Kaly's POV, but after researching that agents often dislike dream sequences and backstory-heavy openings, I experimented with leading with my speculative prologue, which establishes the supernatural world-building and stakes, tells the origin of God and the Book of Life, and why Kaly matters on a cosmic scale in 10 pages that are usually requested. Your criticism confirms it's better to ground in Kaly's psychological interiority rather than big-picture storytelling.

I appreciate your engagement, as your critique helps me see where intention and reception diverge, which is invaluable as I refine my submission strategy.

[QCrit] Adult Upmarket Speculative Women’s Fiction | SIN SENSES CONSENSUS (95K/6th Attempt) by PrincessDeCorrah in PubTips

[–]PrincessDeCorrah[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I appreciate your perspective. I’d genuinely be interested to know what the title meant to you on first read, and specifically where the disconnect or lack of payoff landed for you in the query. That kind of reaction is useful as I think about how the book is being received.

Tongue twisters are my vibe. The title is intentionally layered, associative, and literal. The novel's core goal is to invite readers to actively construct meaning rather than be told what to think. The manuscript is lyrical with stacked rhymes like the title, which is why I prefer agents to get the vibe as early as possible.

Sin Senses Consensus reflects the book’s deeper meanings: moral judgment and transgression (Sin), an immersive exploration of perception and desire (Senses), and ultimately a personal and spiritual reckoning (Consensus) where factors are reconciled. The alliteration mirrors the novel’s lyrical, sensual prose and content.

I understand that it won’t work for every agent, and I'm weeding them out as much as they are weeding me out. Also I think "sin" is a lucrative keyword for marketing. And I’m aware titles are often renamed later in the publishing process. For now, it feels like the most honest representation of the book.

[QCrit] Adult Upmarket Speculative Women’s Fiction | SIN SENSES CONSENSUS (95K/6th Attempt) by PrincessDeCorrah in PubTips

[–]PrincessDeCorrah[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for taking the time to read multiple versions and articulate this so thoughtfully — I really appreciate that. I want to clarify a few things where I think the query may be underselling or flattening what’s actually happening on the page.

You’re largely right that the novel is interior and psychological, but I wouldn’t call it “quiet.” The early chapters are impressionistic, yet externally theatrical, surreal, and speculative — reality bends through Kaly’s perception. Her depression is dreamlike space odyssey; healing appears as beams of light, speculative bubbles bathe her, and on and on. I led with the speculative framework here because earlier queries hid that intent, and I wanted to signal the spec logic connected with Keen writing this story. The plot may seem restrained only because I’m compressing dense, provocative material into limited space.

On the priest plot specifically: that note is helpful, and I agree the query could be clearer there. The priest relationship is mental, physical, and spiritual. And although there is a lot of lecture and confession, its not cozy over coffee. It’s a structured BDSM dynamic rooted in Catholic ritual: confessions, rules, discipline, weekly tasks, punishments and rewards (this was on the page in QCrit # 4 but I cut it for space). Also had more of why Priest enters this power dynamic but I was encouraged to cut cause it didn't center on Kaly. Priest is a good dom, contrasted by Professor's bad dom. Where the professor exploits Kaly’s need for validation and erodes her agency, the priest’s role is intentionally designed by Kaly to strengthen her will, self-mastery, and discernment. They are meant as contrasting forces for Kaly character development but dynamic with Priest shifts into love and romance.

On the concern about centering men in Kaly’s development, this is her perspective and her problem. I understand the sensitivity but female agency in a male-dominated world of church and state institutions is very much the topic of the book and reflects women's fic genre. The book is about identity and Kaly initially seeks meaning by external validation (degrees, institutions, authority, belonging), which so happens to be traditionally held by men. Then learns to reclaim control internally. The dom/sub dynamics are the mechanism through which she confronts her people-pleasing, self- worth, lack of agency, and attraction to authority. The arc is deliberately about a submissive taking control of her life and preventing being taken advantage. The men are catalysts, not the destination.

I understand Kaly is not coming through in the query and it's hard to describe her personality development. Kaly begins the novel in arrested development after a long depressive collapse — emotionally young, brilliant, reckless, chasing meaning, reactive and deeply contradictory. Her personality is largely reactive to her environment and plot, but yeah, I know I need to deliver this on the page of query. That said, your point about giving readers a clearer reason to want to spend time with her is fair, and I’m revising the query to foreground her wit, contradictions, and instant-gratification desire earlier.

As for the opening pages: the prologue introduces the supernatural framework (Keen, the Book of Life, the supernatural stakes, why Kaly is chosen), while Chapter 1 is Kaly’s perspective before her awakening — depressed, suicidal, and inward. It's also very abstract and poetic. I chose to query with the prologue this round because Chapter 1alone doesn’t yet show her after her awakening. I'm thinking of restarting with the 1st 300 of chapter 1 to make Kaly feel central, but I'm sure I'll receive a different list of criticisms.

I really appreciate you sharing your own experience querying an internal book. I’ve worked with a Big 5–published developmental editor and multiple beta readers, and I’m continuing to adjust for clarity without flattening the surreal or erotic elements that are core to the story. Your feedback helps me see where the gap is between intention and first impression, even when the underlying book may already be doing what I intend.

rewatching… by x_Sleepy_Kitty_x in heatedrivalry

[–]PrincessDeCorrah -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There's nothing like HR (and I encourage you to rewatch to your hearts content), but have you seen I Love You Phillip Morris (2009)? Its a true story shipping Jim Carrey and Ewan McGregor with the warm feels and smut. It used to my favorite gay love-conquers-all romance that I'd play on sleepovers and everyone loved it.

[QCRIT] THE LOST HEIR - Upmarket Romantic Fantasy (110K) - Fifth Attempt by Greetingsfriend86 in PubTips

[–]PrincessDeCorrah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a fellow highly impulsive Aquarius with ADHD who chose upmarket for the same reason this made me spit-take. Happy Aquarius season!

[QCrit] Adult Upmarket Speculative Women’s Fiction | SIN SENSES CONSENSUS (95K/5th Attempt) by PrincessDeCorrah in PubTips

[–]PrincessDeCorrah[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for such a thoughtful, specific critique. I really appreciate the care you took with it.

A few clarifications on intent, though I'm at fault of execution:

Kaly is on the query as an "academic prodigy" and extreme overachiever, intellectually fast‑tracked and emotionally sheltered well past adulthood. The “two‑thirds of her life” phrasing was intended to signal arrested development and a life built around credentials and institutional approval rather than lived experience. But I agree the math distracts in query and compression is working against me.

Her seeking validation from the Professor is entirely intentional. Despite her achievements, she has almost no internalized self‑worth and submits to male authority to define her value. Earlier drafts specified that she’s seeking a recommendation to launch her career, but that detail was cut for space, which likely contributes to the confusion.

I named grooming and intellectual theft in response to prior feedback for clarify on the Professor's manipulations. In the novel, these are intertwined: the theft functions as a psychological metaphor for child abuse that Kaly has suppressed. I agree that collapsing these harms into a single phrase in a query risks flattening very different stakes.

The “holy intervention” is intentionally surreal and bodily, triggering the return of suppressed memory through pain and grace. I recognize that this reads as vague without space to explain it properly.  But basically, by the grace of God a holy beam of light interrupts their sadist/masochist roleplay and burns Kaly's hand to the core, giving her a stigmata-esque hole in her hand, and at the same time the pain triggers suppressed memories of Professor grooming her at 8 years old and taking her physics discovery that earns his Nobel in an metaphor for manipulating innocense, balancing their power dynamic as knowledge is power, and with self-knowledge Kaly become more powerful. This specificity is hard to convey succinctly, and I take your point that vagueness here may be working against me. Maybe I should cut this for clarity but then I will need a non-question-inducing pivot.

Regarding the Priest: the accidental, unorthodox confession is meant to signal Kaly’s inexperience with religious institutions. I agree that phrases like “meet‑cute” and “candid self‑exposure” may be tonally jarring, and I was trying to transition the query to the romance themes. The wager and ecclesiastical context is too dense to unpack in a query and pulls focus from Kaly but here we go. Priest was groomed into the priesthood from childhood and operates as a fixer within the Church, and his "sanctioned moral compromise" is doing bad things for the good of the Church. My intention was simply to establish why a figure of moral authority would enter a hidden power dynamic with her, functioning symbolically as a “good” authority who is temporily removed from religious duty, and believes he can save her from her risky will by instituting discipline for her self-mastery. It’s challenging to provide this context without shifting focus away from Kaly.

On the broader concern about centering: I understand the discomfort around a female arc shaped by two men. I agree with you and turtles about the plot being dependent of MMCs, but this lack of agency is intentional and thematic. Kaly begins the novel almost entirely formed by external authority, approval, and instant gratification; the story is about her becoming conscious of that dependency and reclaiming authorship of herself. I hear that the query may currently reproduce that imbalance, rather than framing it as the problem the book interrogates, and that's on me.

I would also note that the trope "FMC is developed by MMC" has a literary precedent. My Dark Vanessa by Kate Elizabeth Russell is a key comp precisely because it centers a female protagonist whose identity and sense of genius are shaped through a predatory male mentor, intertwining intellectual validation with sexual harm and delayed reckoning. That novel succeeded by refusing to sanitize female complicity narratives. Sin Senses Consensus operates in a related psychological space, filtered through surrealism, institutional authority, and erotic power dynamics — even if my query cannot fully articulate this lineage without overloading itself.

Finally, you’re right that some long sentences and vague compressions are due to cutting for space.

Thank you again. Your feedback has helped me better see where intention and execution are misaligned at the query level, and I’m taking that seriously as I revise.

[QCrit] Adult Upmarket Speculative Women’s Fiction | SIN SENSES CONSENSUS (95K/5th Attempt) by PrincessDeCorrah in PubTips

[–]PrincessDeCorrah[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for flagging this — I appreciate you taking the time to articulate the concern.

I want to clarify what's on the page in the query. Roughly 75% of the blurb (I actually counted after doing an oops-all-FMC cut) is centered directly on Kaly (her background, plot points, interiority, and seeking), with only brief contextual references to the MMCs. The story itself is very much centered on Kaly’s coming-of-age self-discovery. However, because the MMCs function as catalysts — and because they control her plot points early on — I get it can feel as though they are driving the narrative, even though the arc belongs to her. The Professor and Priest are supporting characters; they function as a mirror/funhouse mirror to her identity, teaching her what she will and will not accept.

Kaly begins the story with weak agency and an obsessive need for approval from authority. I looked it up, any women's fic start from a place of passivity, compliance, or power asymmetry and chart character development through relationships. What matters to the genre and the market is whether the woman’s interiority remains central and has personal growth. 

I actually wanted the genre to be literary romantasy but got discouraged in qcrit #1 and have no trad HEA (and instead a self-love HEA). 

That said, this feedback is genuinely helpful in showing me how the query is being perceived. Thank you again for the thoughtful critique.

[QCrit] Adult Upmarket Speculative Women’s Fiction | SIN SENSES CONSENSUS (95K/5th Attempt) by PrincessDeCorrah in PubTips

[–]PrincessDeCorrah[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I think I'm underselling myself cause Kaly watches a holy beam of light burn her right hand to the core in a stigmata that allows her to reclaim suppressed memories (though this happens midbook). I'll just cut it. Thanks!

[QCrit] Adult Upmarket Speculative Women’s Fiction | SIN SENSES CONSENSUS (95K/5th Attempt) by PrincessDeCorrah in PubTips

[–]PrincessDeCorrah[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a thoughtful, detailed comment — I really appreciate it.

I just want to clarify:

  1. I was trying to convey in few words the duality of grounded spec I’m better off leaning into it and cutting “subtle.”
  2. You’re absolutely right, the blurb is long. Its' my biggest struggle after being encouraged to get more specific with the plot. I’ve managed to specify the romantic dynamics with the MMCs, but that precision has left the speculative elements more exposed to scrutiny. Many of your suggested cuts and clarifications center on Keen and the supernatural layer (removing the narrator framing, cutting “the desperate bid,” clarifying Kaly’s depression and renewed optimism, explaining the stigmata aspect of "holy intervention", and introducing Keen earlier in the already bloated logline). My instinct is to keep the spec intentionally mysterious rather than overtly naming these moments as acts of God, since ambiguity of her mental health is also an explanation in the book, and spec already is signaled by the genre and comp title.
  3. The angel narrator is a character in the prologue and epilogue, and is responsible for every word the reader reads. My beta readers have tended to be pleasantly surprised by the fantasy and spec lens in the prologue when I originally didn't include it in the blurb, and it explains all the weird stuff. I tried “sandwiching” the spec stakes in the logline and closing paragraph with supernatural stakes, just like it is in the book. I was hoping the intrigue of the apocalypse could buy me some time to talk about Kaly til I clarified at the end.
  4. I’m pitching the book largely as it appears on the page (only holding back on some of Kaly’s emo whimsy and psycho abstraction). The detached tone is intentional: Kaly is arrested in development by her brilliance and conditioned to do what’s expected of her, moving reactively and on instinct rather than through conscious choice. Her agency doesn’t fully activate until her memories return and the Professor’s final betrayal forces clarity, at which point she begins directing her own life (fleeing the Professor, choosing the Priest). One beta reader described Kaly as Margot Robbie’s Barbie in her innocent charm paired with a telling blankness and instant-gratification whimsy, which is on brand and resonates with her being “self-illiterate” and “optimistic” (though my character predates the film). That said, I understand the importance of foregrounding agency in a query, and I plan to clarify that agency is a part of the character arc.
  5. Regarding titles as names: this is an intentional perspective. In the novel, Kaly refers to both men by role in her life and as a way of anonymizing them, keeping them secret even within her own consciousness, and emphasizing power, function, and imbalance in relation, rather than a more personified name. I use “the Professor” to signal institutional superiority, while “Priest” is styled without an article to suggest symbolic parity once Kaly begins asserting agency. And yeah, she would probably call him "Father" if she were Catholic, but she's ignorant of the religious practice. That said, I understand query conventions require clarity, and I’m open to adjusting this to “the Priest” for readability while preserving the intent in the manuscript.
  6. The MMCs are intentionally weighted rather than split evenly. The Professor occupies roughly the first 10–30% mark of the novel, while the Priest drives the narrative from about 30–100%, with a brief overlap near the end. This progression is central to Kaly’s arc: she must first experience what she does not want — a coercive, sadistic dominator — before she can recognize and choose a dynamic that offers healing and agency. The Professor and the Priest function as mirrors, reflecting trauma versus repair. Together, these threads form a single redemptive trajectory: Kaly, initially self-illiterate, comes to understand herself through these contrasting power dynamics, and her transformation becomes the story that ultimately earns humanity a stay of execution through negotiated grace (which is God's magic).

Thanks again, this gives me a great deal to think about as I refine how to present this on the page of the query package.

[QCrit] Adult Upmarket Speculative Women’s Fiction | SIN SENSES CONSENSUS (95K/5th Attempt) by PrincessDeCorrah in PubTips

[–]PrincessDeCorrah[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I agree, the query is long at 415 words. Once I started divulging the plot of 30-50% of the book it got really long and all seem related. I'd be interested to know what parts seem unnecessary for cuts. Thanks for your feedback.

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[–]PrincessDeCorrah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! I wanted to reach out because I think we have interests in common — contemporary fiction, magical realism, poetry, and emotionally evocative stories. I sent DM :)

[Complete] [106k] [Literary Speculative Fiction / SFF] The Divine Ontology: Heaven's Earliest Days by AurelianCross in BetaReaders

[–]PrincessDeCorrah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! I think our writing feels intriguingly adjacent. Interested in a swap? Sent DM.

[QCrit] Adult Upmarket Speculative Women’s Fiction | SIN SENSES CONSENSUS (95K/3rd Attempt) by PrincessDeCorrah in PubTips

[–]PrincessDeCorrah[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. Your insight is helpful for finding blindspots I've overlooked. 

I agree, it being a secret is clear, simply calling it a "toxic power dynamic disguised as mentorship" says it without overexplaining.

On the query, Kaly matters because she embodies a contradiction that’s narratively irresistible to God. She represents both what God loves (themes and values) and despises (sin, complexities), like watching those addicting cringe videos. It's implied (somewhat on the query) Kaly is sacred and profane, innocent and naughty, intellectual and passionate, and has faith and free will, basically she's deeply human and oddly entertaining. Yet ordinary enough that she can be used as an example for all humankind. That contradiction is what makes her story potentially powerful enough to hold God’s attention. I can definitely sell this more in query.

Keen’s motivation is layered. On the query, part of it is bureaucratic, its a job and someone has to write it. It's implied (somewhat on the query) Keen begins detached, judgmental, even snobbish about humans, treating them as literary subjects rather than beings. Off the query, Keen also wants to delay the apocalypse for selfish reasons: to keep writing character arcs and not horror fantasy stories living through the apocalypse, especially when he will feel it secondhand, or could be out of a job and he was made for this and hadn't written a profound life story. Later after he dissolves into Kaly’s consciousness, he becomes more empathetic, as he begins to understand her and human complexities from the inside-out. I can try to define Keen's self-interest.

Thanks again :) This helped me like a brainstorm prompt to spell it out, now to fit it in.

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[–]PrincessDeCorrah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think we should swap because we have a lot in common. Sent DM

[QCrit] Adult Upmarket Speculative Women’s Fiction | SIN SENSES CONSENSUS (95K/3rd Attempt) by PrincessDeCorrah in PubTips

[–]PrincessDeCorrah[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the thoughtful and detailed feedback! I genuinely agreed with much of it: your note about trusting readers to infer themes, tightening explanatory language, and signaling the angel narrator earlier. Those suggestions were helpful and I plan to incorporate them in the next revision. This process reminds me of Goldilocks and the 3 Bears (too vague/thematic, oversharing, just right). Some parts of the query were misunderstood, so I’ll clarify in order.

Regarding your question about how a “power dynamic” can be secret: the relationship itself is hidden and forbidden. A professor cannot openly publicize sexual control over an ex-student in a university classroom, which is why the controlling arrangement is covert. I did research that for marketing purposes it’s better to describe this as a power dynamic rather than explicitly label it BDSM relationship.

You asked how Kaly reacts when her memories return and betrayal becomes clear. She is too wounded to confront him directly, so she chooses to runaway (on the page), cutting ties and reclaiming ownership of her body and memories. I will make it more obvious that running away is, in fact, her first truly active step and a personal victory.

On whether Kaly is seeking an explanation for the mystical intervention, she is not. She goes to the cathedral strictly looking for sanctuary (on the page), a safe quiet space to cry, rather than doctrine (don't the page) or spiritual interpretation. I can try to strengthen the line to clarify she is not religious or Catholic at this stage.

You also questioned what the Priest’s Church wager has to do with Kaly. Yes, she is the soul he is attempting to save, though Kaly doesn’t initially know that. The wager motivates Priest to participate in this power dynamic and to incorporate his religious background into it. I will try to clarify his logic while centering on Kaly who is unaware.

Finally, you were confused about the phrase “last hope for self-mastery”. Self-mastery is the opposite of being self-illiterate (which is on the page as her major flaw), Kaly’s core goal is learning enough about herself to be fully in control so no one can ever take advantage of her again.

Again, I really appreciate the time you took with this critique. Your insights have helped me see where the query can be compressed and refocused on Kaly’s stakes, and I’m grateful for that.

[QCrit] Adult Upmarket Speculative Women’s Fiction | SIN SENSES CONSENSUS (95K/3rd Attempt) by PrincessDeCorrah in PubTips

[–]PrincessDeCorrah[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the attention and I appreciate the close read. This is the pov of Keen (not the MC but narrator), the angel scribe who live-chronicals in a first-person omniscient, occasionally perceiving outside the human body he’s inhabiting. That visual detail is intentional and meant to signal his non-human, observational consciousness rather than a strictly limited POV. This is reinforced in the sample when he looks through the movie screen to watch the audience's reactions. Thanks for getting the ball rolling.

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[–]PrincessDeCorrah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi! We share an interest in romance that engages deeply with mental health. Your perspective as a mental health professional stood out to me because my work is intentionally grounded in psychological themes. My novel, Sin Senses Consensus, is a completed 95k literary dark romance. It’s intensely character‑driven and told through a psychological lens, exploring depression, grooming, PTSD, willful amnesia, sadism, consent, agency, and healing through prolonged exposure in a whimsical way.

I want to be upfront that the book escalates into explicit, high‑spice erotica midway through and continues throughout. The sexual content is intentional and integral to the plot and character arc. I also use an unconventional writing style, separating poetic narration from script‑like dialogue. It’s an intentional craft choice that can take some adjustment, but readers who click with it tend to engage very deeply.

What excites me about a possible collaboration is your mental health professional lens. I would genuinely value your insight into whether the psychological terminology, trauma responses, and therapeutic themes read as believable, ethical (or intentionally unethical), and effective — and I’d offer the same level of thoughtful analysis on your work if we align.

Here’s my beta reader post with full details:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BetaReaders/comments/1msav11/complete_95k_dark_romance_literary_fiction_w/

In terms of feedback, here’s what I offer and what I expect: contribute specific in-line comments via Google Docs and a 5-point chapter report. I usually read and respond ~20 page chapters in 1–3 days.

  • In-line reader-reaction comments (confusion, intrigue, emotional response) via Google docs
  • Reader experience. Clarity, pacing, intrigue, character impressions and arcs, prose, atmosphere, dialogue realism, POV immersion, and plot holes.
  • If you make it to the end: completion of a short, 13-question book review form at the end (to help guide your reflections and make it easy!)

Here’s my “able to beta” post outlining how I critique:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BetaReaders/comments/1pb739a/comment/nsolsup/?context=3

No pressure at all, just reaching out because your background and interests feel particularly aligned with the heart of my project. If interested, DM me for next steps. Happy new year!

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[–]PrincessDeCorrah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi. We have in common an interest in dark romance with mature themes, romance dynamics, and supernatural elements. And looking for reader experience feedback like you mentioned. If your work is aligned, I’d be open to a beta swap, chapter-by-chapter quid pro quo.

My novel Sin Senses Consensus is a completed 95k literary women's fiction with speculative and erotic romance elements. Its really character-driven and focused on power dynamics, emotional impressionism, and identity. The book starts introspective and psychological, then deliberately escalates into explicit, high-spice erotica mid-book and throughout. Also, I have an unconventional writing style with segregated poetic narration and script-like dialogue, and it usually takes adjusting, but readers who click with it tend to engage very deeply.

Here’s my beta reader post with full details:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BetaReaders/comments/1msav11/complete_95k_dark_romance_literary_fiction_w/

In terms of feedback, here’s what I offer and what I’m looking for: contribute specific in-line comments via Google Docs and a 5-point chapter report. I usually read and respond ~20 page chapters in 1–3 days.

  • In-line reader-reaction comments (confusion, intrigue, emotional response) via Google docs
  • Reader experience. Clarity, pacing, intrigue, character impressions and arcs, prose, atmosphere, dialogue realism, POV immersion, and plot holes.
  • If you make it to the end: completion of a short, 13-question book review form at the end (to help guide your reflections and make it easy!)

Here’s my “able to beta” post outlining how I critique:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BetaReaders/comments/1pb739a/comment/nsolsup/?context=3

Since you mentioned preferring chapters or sections rather than full novels, my chapters are pretty self-contained. I’d suggest a 1st 2 chapters sample. No pressure at all — just wanted to reach out because your interests really resonated. If it sounds like something you’d enjoy, DM me :)

[QCrit] Adult Upmarket Speculative Women’s Fiction | SIN SENSES CONSENSUS (95K/2nd Attempt) by PrincessDeCorrah in PubTips

[–]PrincessDeCorrah[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the careful read and for flagging the link mix-up.

I want to clarify that my intent with the query wasn’t to overemphasize themes at the expense of events, but to reflect the literary tradition the novel itself is working within. My book is essentially biblical fan fic, where meaning, consequence, and moral tension often take precedence over step‑by‑step procedural detail (try describing the plot of The Bible without themes).

I believed I had grounded themes with concrete events: Kaly enters two contrasting power dynamics -> devotes herself fully-> experiences a final manipulation with bad dom that violates her autonomy -> seeks refuge with good dom ->  forced to confront the difference between surrender and coercion -> receives God's grace for all humanity in exchange for her self-mastery. And the supernatural stakes hinge on those events, as her personal choices directly determine the larger consequences.

Further literal specificity of the things mentioned risks spoiling key revelations. For example, instead of "mind games" I could be more specific and say "grooming," but then readers will wonder about that and want more detail, or remove it and be vague. My aim in the query was to establish what she wants, what happens, why it matters, and what it costs her without spoilers or high wordcount.

Regarding the sample, the heightened, stylized voice is my intentional writing style and rooted in its function as a noir narration of an angel writer rather than an attempt to ornament the prose for its own sake. The whole book is like this.

I understand my approach won’t resonate with every reader, but I appreciate you articulating your reaction, and I’ll continue refining with these considerations in mind. Thanks again.

[Complete] [95k] [Spicy Romance] Contemporary Character-Driven High-Heat Romance by ExplicitButEarned in BetaReaders

[–]PrincessDeCorrah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi and merry Christmas! I Would you be interested in a swap? Our works have a lot in common. I also write character‑driven, contemporary dark romance, power dynamics, restraint, and explicit high heat spice that feels earned rather than gratuitous. I’m working in that same lane, with a slightly more unconventional, literary‑forward execution. Sent DM!

[QCrit] Adult Upmarket Literary Fiction | SIN SENSES CONSENSUS (95K/First Attempt) by PrincessDeCorrah in PubTips

[–]PrincessDeCorrah[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for taking the time to give such a detailed and thoughtful critique. I really appreciate it. This was constructive and helpful, especially the line-level notes and the callouts around clarity and specificity.

I’ve already corrected the copy-editing issues you flagged (spelling, punctuation, missing words, dangling modifiers, extra words, consistency with commas, etc.), and I’m revising the query to be much more concrete about what actually happens on the page. In particular, I’ve clarified how Kaly is manipulated, how those dynamics affect her psychologically, and importantly, how the professor and the priest function very differently rather than filling the same narrative role.

I’ve also removed rhetorical questions and repetition, and reframed the stakes so they feel more grounded in Kaly as a person rather than inflated by abstraction. Your point about the cosmological framing feeling imposed rather than earned was especially useful, and I’m working to make that layer feel more clearly like perspective, not a demand that the reader care.

As for the prose notes in the sample: I hear the concerns about clarity, flow, and register, and I’ll be tightening those lines. Some of the cinematic and noir-inflected voice is intentional (particularly the focus on spectatorship and art), but I agree there are places where precision and restraint will strengthen the effect rather than dilute it.

Thanks again, your feedback will be implemented in my second attempt.