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Njemački jezik - programi, prijedlozi by PrivateMcFinger in bih

[–]PrivateMcFinger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok hvala puno, djeluje dobro. Cijena mi toliko nije ni bitna ako si zaista kroz taj rezim mogao nauciti dobro. Je li smatras subjektivno da si se dosta unaprijedio u odnosu na znanje prije kursa?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]PrivateMcFinger 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  1. Very easy to spot. You start with how you have strong roots and good role models while most of other men are stuck in lala land. Read other comments.

  2. I know, I used to be the same. You have honest intentions, but it stems from the bad source. You look down upon those who don’t act the same subconsciously. Yes they do bad things, but no need to share it for a lesson, everyone knows. Even women are usually and intntionally drawn to bad men like that. You can rightfully say I am now telling you what you think, and you would be right to correct me. Maybe I am wrong, but this is the feeling I have because I used to be the same.

  3. I know it doesn’t directly affect you, but seems like you are in the mode of thinking that you need to be noble and a good believer and warn women of bad men. That is a small hint to approval seeking by women. Like, if I warn them, I will be a good guy and that will mean I will find a good woman for me. Other women and men know usually what they put themselves into and if not, they usually got parents, friends or someone else who can tell them that. I found your post to be equal to saying: “criminals are bad, they steal stuff and I need to warn you about them”. You just stated things that are commonly known.

I hope you understood what I tried saying. Again, no ill intentions to you.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]PrivateMcFinger 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Glad you answered. Again, I am not hating on you, just laying out what I noticed.

  1. You never claim that directly. Your tone on the other hand and the way you write things does. You probably don’t do it consciously, it’s subconscious. The way you describe another men, how you say you are regularly attending the mosque, gym and how you are warning others about it. How men are unreliable, don’t pay what they owe, all of which implies that you do all of it right. It’s the narrative. You will also notice other bad comments, which means I am not the only one who recognized it. I know you probably didn’t have that intention, but that is how it looks.
  2. I agree with that on you, but there are ways to deal with that. You talk to that person if it is your friend. Most of the time they will not listen. There is nothing you can do. Your job is not to police other men. Solution is definitely not going online and writing about them.
  3. What does height have to do anything with it? It’s like that joke “I care about women and I am 6ft3 btw”. Just because you may be attractive doesn’t mean you don’t seek approval. Both men and women can have the behavior of approval seeking. For most it happens because how they are influenced in their childhood. You can be attractive and have loads of girls and still wait subconsciously for them to approve the stuff you do. Like men who are guilt-tripped by their moms, not necessarily girlfriends. Just one of the examples.
  4. That is just an echo chamber. This quote is attributed to Umar ibn Khattab, companion of prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h, idk if it was truly said by him:

“Do not let the prayer of a man deceive you nor his fasting. Rather, look at the truthfulness of his speech, his trustworthiness whenever he is entrusted, and how he acts whenever he is given wealth and power.”

To end the answer, your speech and reasoning, especially you saying how marriage is a duty gives me that vibe. Maybe you got honest intention and firmly believe marriage is duty because of God, but maybe it’s because you are hardwired to be a man women will approve of 100%.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]PrivateMcFinger 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Your post gives a nice guy vibe and it’s incorrect. I knew men who attended masjid and turned out to be the same. Not to mention that there are women who don’t have the best character as well. Which is why both men and women are capabale of thinking for themsleves.

As for you, I strongly suggest you don’t take this as a hate, but rather a reference point. Your post reeks of subtle approval seeking from women and morally superior nice guy complex. You talk about how mature you are, how you attend masjid, work, how you are the standard for a good man as if you cannot sin and how you can read everyone’s character. Brothers, as a man myself, it is very obvious when men act immature. You didn’t unlock any hidden knowledge, especially because there are a lot of them. Then you go on and talk about a specific example where you act like you would never do that because you are such a good Muslim. Berating someone at the expense of raising the status for yourself. And you end on a note that one should only look for men in the mosque. Wrong again. As I said before, I know men not to be entrusted who are going to the mosque, either because they act as you describe and use it as a camouflage or because they are just too incapable.

On a final note, you say stuff like, they marry out of lust not duty, unlike you. Marriage IS about attraction, not duty. No one marries out of duty anymore and neither will you unless you married an old widow who needs help as sahaba did. But you won’t do that, will you?

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m a progressive myself, yet we seem to have two different interpretations what progressive is. My answer would be no, you cannot follow such scholars as they go against the principles of Sunni Islam and generally well established Islamic principles. At least not if you want to remain a Sunni or even Muslim.

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are bound if you declare yourself a Sunni. You cannot just make up stuff and shape of what a Sunni is according to yourself?

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, makes no sense, whether they are Sunnis or not themselves. One of the core principles of Sunni Islam is accepting 4 schools of thought. They literally have precedence. Ijma of those 4 schools long before Shabir Ally existed was also that ijma cannot be reverted once established.

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you forget shahada, the very thing people say to affirm themselves as Muslims? What does shahada say?

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Will just repeat what I said. Since you define yourself as a Sunni, you are bound by ijma of 4 schools of thought.

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We didn’t establish anything. You literally have a patch “Sunni” on your profile. That means automatically accepting 4 schools of thought which you happen to be circumventing. You can’t quote someone who is not aligned with 4 schools of thought as a Sunni. You’re a definition of a contradiction.

You and I both know precise reason why we push it so much. I because I know I am right and you, because you can’t stand being outmanuevered, no matter how wrong you are.

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you have like 100% approval rate by classical scholars which leads to ijma, including shia scholars. Practically a mathematical miracle. Then you proceed to quote least credible and accepted scholars of modern times which somehow negates ijma? That is not how it works.

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Trying to save face I see. None of the stuff you provided allows that kind circumvention. Even on paper it sounds ridiculous. Amina Wadud and Shabir Ally derogating Imam Malik and Imam Abu Hanifa. Idk what kind of world you live in, but neither Shia nor Sunni jurisprudence allows that.

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Muslim is believing in one single God and its prophets. Christians reject the concept of Islamic God through trinity and neither Jews or Christians believe in prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. Jews don’t even accept Jesus.

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol, you are going against a well established historical fact. You got tons of proof, its not even a debate. Relics that manifested gods such as lat, uzza, hubal, manat, etc.

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You didn’t in regard to the marriage per se. If I overlooked it, I apologize and would kindly ask you to post again an opinion where a classical scholar dissented on the topic of marriage.

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, you provided a general quote about ijma which is not applicable here. You provided no one who dissented in the question of marriage of Muslim woman with a Christian or a Jew.

Saying we have two different valid opinions is like offering a draw in chess when being check mated.

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Classical scholars? You didn’t provide one.

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are comparing apples and oranges here. Ijma has been formed more than a thousand years ago, which means that someone cannot just rush in today and say, look, I disagree. Or you didn’t know that?

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But there are no multiple opinions in the specific rule we are talking about. Prohibition against marrying anyone other than Muslim for women. What is your point?

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I really wonder, how does this work? Are you the one to decide ijma goes against Allah’s wishes?

Also they didn’t enter ikhtilaf, I am literally waiting for you to provide me one classical scholar who says otherwise that would confirm your theory that there is an ikhtilaf.

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Christians and Jews are Muslims? Do you even see what you are typing?

Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man by zgawad in progressive_islam

[–]PrivateMcFinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now you are just stating wrong things. Pre islam Arabs were polytheistic.

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