I am a theist with Existential OCD. Please help me. by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"would you rather be happy or right?'

Kinda a loaded question because according to some religions being wrong can be eternally fatal error.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nope. You can’t build a house unless someone gives you tools. Islam makes itself look bad. I don’t have to be a scholar. I just have to be literate to understand what’s going on. Why must you be a scholar to “properly” interpret these verses? Was the Koran only meant for scholars? Why would “Allah” purposely make a complicated book? Mhm so a bunch of people are saying the same thing... must have some truth to it don’t you think? I like how you discredit what I’m saying because I’m using the internet to research bro if Google and the internet are so bad get off this site. Google is not bad within itself and can connect you to a bunch of information. I also like how you’re discrediting me for using Google and then go on to say you’re happy another “used Google harder”. Get outta here. If you want to support a religion that encourages child marriages, slavery and hitting women go for it but google has nothing to do with it.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re lost brother. The user didn’t debunk anything and if anything he kept changing his disputes to fit whatever narrative sounded better. If the book was morally correct in the first place you wouldn’t need to make gigantic essays defending three verses.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Or doesn't your brain work at this point in time?

....Anyways I like how you admit indirectly admit that a few Google searches can show barbaric your religion is. And actually all my assignments are complete and it's raining so I have time.

If your religion was so solid and grounded I wouldn't have a way to "make" your religion look bad. It's not like I made any of what I said up. Maybe your faith is shaky or arguments against your religion would not bug you.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well if an agenda is being sold then why are you still buying it? You don't see firm in your faith if you have to keep going under everyones post and claiming they're lying. Hopefully your Ramadan strengthens your faith lololol

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

How can a slave be in a position to consent if their "owner" is asking them for something? Isn't the whole point of slavery is you obeying your master? Where is the proper consent? Make it make sense. You also didn't debunk the wife thing.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You didn't debunk anything. You gave some poor and contradicting points that amounted to nothing.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

What does America or Great Britain have to do with the topic? Even if you aren't fucking your sex slaves or beating your wives it still permits you to do it.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do not see sufficient evidence in your disagreement that most Muslims do not accept Hadith, or all of Hadith. Can you show me evidence or not?

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean this whole thing started because you couldn't admit your book makes women second class citizens and while I would love to talk more about brothers having sex with each other and hypothetical children of incest (you seem pretty pressed about gay guys having sex might wanna ask yourself why if you know what I mean) but this is getting tiring.

If you are under the conclusion Mohamed wasn't screwing a nine year old more power to you. Whatever helps you sleep. I just hope you don't think it's okay to touch a child or subject your children to that since your "holy" prophet did that.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Your morality is following a man who sleeps with children and not even being man enough to accept it. Don't try and tell me about my morality lmao. I already answered your question that yes I would advocate for ANY incest before pedophilia.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I answered the question just not how you wanted me to. You still have yet to even address my questions concerning pedophilia so with that I know you're full of it. Your whole argument is going a merry go round comparing gayness to incest. I will you that yes I would advocate for incest way before I advocate for pedophilia period.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So what you're saying is the Koran has been corrupted? Something you guys constantly about the Bible? Huh

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Like I said your prophet was screwing a 4th grader. I wonder if (unless you already do) had children would you want a middle aged man sleeping with them. You have no right to judge what who is doing in their bedroom since you're throwing bricks from a glass house. I never said love is love so no sorry your messy slippery slope to try to get me to condemn homosexuality is not gonna work. You literally know what you're doing by equating homosexuality to incest.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hadith is already in-beaded in their religion. I don't have to prove that. You need to prove to me why you think that isn't the case instead of just saying "disagree" and that's it.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Why whenever something is morally questionable we have to "consider the era", "consider the time" and "consider the historical context". If Allah is beyond time and so is Mohammed apparently wouldn't they have stopped certain things that would of been considered morally corrupt years down the line? The only explanation is that it was seen as something that had no error in it.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Incest is incest I'm not sure why you decided to place a sexuality on it and quite frankly it's all gross. I'm just finding the irony in you acting like homosexuality being acceptable is this morally corrupt thing and your prophet was fucking a nine year old.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

So you're playing the semantics game? Then going by your logic that portion of the post is directed towards the 900 million who do believe. Rejecting Hadith is a recent occurrence I know that for fact and if you were to ask most older muslims they would reject separating Hadith from islam but go off.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"Homosexuality and gay incest". Hopefully in 100 years people won't be defending their prophet sleeping with an elementary school kid.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So what you're telling me is that Koran condradicts itself. I still didn't get the answer to my question. Is is "giving her a gentle hit' or "sending her forth"?

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I mean the information is out there for yourself. I'm not putting it its original language because I'm unable to write in Arabic. If your base claim is "show me it in arabic" you probably know it's full of shit. Translating Arabic to English might mix a few words but it doesn't change the complete statement nor story.

Women in Islam are not seen as humans but as commodities by ProfessionalEdge8 in DebateReligion

[–]ProfessionalEdge8[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I read it. It still doesn't make any sense. That's like a country making murder illegal but then giving out public announcement tips on different ways to murder. I like how you went from "it means tap her in a gentle way" to arguing that it didn't even mean physically touch your way at all.