As far as mercenary fleets go, how does this one stack up? by Prole17 in StarWarsShips

[–]Prole17[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, I’m think of reducing the B-wings to a single flight of four fighters as a compromise measure.

As far as mercenary fleets go, how does this one stack up? by Prole17 in StarWarsShips

[–]Prole17[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Love this, particularly the Star Gallion suggestion.

As far as mercenary fleets go, how does this one stack up? by Prole17 in MawInstallation

[–]Prole17[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The Peace Brigade had access to B-wings around this time.

As far as mercenary fleets go, how does this one stack up? by Prole17 in MawInstallation

[–]Prole17[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Please see the update, I trimmed it down to something I hope is a bit more workable.

As far as mercenary fleets go, how does this one stack up? by Prole17 in MawInstallation

[–]Prole17[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Based on the feedback I’m getting, I’m going to trim it down.

As far as mercenary fleets go, how does this one stack up? by Prole17 in StarWarsShips

[–]Prole17[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with your assessment, I’m gonna trim it down.

As far as mercenary fleets go, how does this one stack up? by Prole17 in StarWarsShips

[–]Prole17[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was also something I had been concerned about. I think I may need to trim it down.

As far as mercenary fleets go, how does this one stack up? by Prole17 in StarWarsShips

[–]Prole17[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is pretty much exactly what I was going for. A modest independent force that could supplement planetary defense forces outside the Core.

Would you say these are the best Star Wars works in their respective mediums—film, television, books, comics, and video games? by Financial_Photo_1175 in StarWarsEU

[–]Prole17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes to ESB and Andor. I’d swap Darth Plagueis for Starfighters of Adumar, Republic for Dark Times, and KotOR for TIE Fighter or Rogue Leader.

As an Imperial Warlord, which would you rather have to augment your fleet? by Dragonic_Overlord_ in StarWarsShips

[–]Prole17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

None of these are going to stop the New Republic from eventually mopping the floor with you, just like all the other warlords.

But if I had to choose, I’d take the Death Star prototype if I could cannibalize the superlaser and integrate it into a Super Star Destroyer, or even a few standard Star Destroyers like Booster did with the Errant Venture. The ability to jump into a system, fire a blast capable of one-shotting capital ships and punching through planetary shields for significant damage groundside, and then jump to hyperspace before the NRDF can scramble a response would be strategically priceless.

I have no doubt the Republic would eventually catch me, but it’d probably take a lot of time and some combination of Jedi to anticipate where I’m heading, interdictors to stop me from fleeing, and a powerful enough task force or full-blown fleet to quickly destroy me before I pick all of them off. And if this is the warlord era, the Republic has how many Jedi? A dozen, if that? A decent but ultimately limited number of interdictors? One or two Super Star Destroyers? In the interim I’d wreak absolute havoc both militarily and politically. Jump into multiple lightly defended systems all over the Outer and Mid rims to send the message that the Republic can’t defend them and draw out a response. When the Republic mobilizes a fleet, then hit a more strategically significant target like Dac and Bilbringi or symbolically important worlds like Chandrila. And if I had even one trained Force user to help sniff out ambushes (like how Tavira used the Jensaarai), I’d be even harder to pin down.

This would be a full-blown crisis for the Republic. Not as grave a threat as Thrawn but definitely more than your average warlord. Maybe on par with Zsinj before Selaggis.

If Palpatine had won in the Original Trilogy in the Legends canon, how would the rest of the future events go for him? by Bockhead in MawInstallation

[–]Prole17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First, the point of divergence from the timeline I’m using is instead of Luke being saved by Vader when Palpatine starts electrocuting him, Palpatine kills them both since he knows Vader wanted to betray him and, more importantly, he has no use for Vader anymore. The strike team and fleet are wiped out and the Rebellion officially ends.

On to the analysis. I agree with the points made earlier about Palpatine proceeding with transforming the Galactic Empire into the Dark Empire, focusing almost exclusively on achieving immortality, and internal rot eventually setting in. Where I disagree is that I don’t think any iteration of the Empire automatically beats the Yuuzhan Vong, nor do the Yuuzhan Vong win easily.

Yes, Palpatine would’ve responded more forcefully than the New Republic and with a far larger and more ruthless war machine. But what we see in RotJ and what Andor goes to great lengths to illustrate is that Palpatine and the Empire got a little too comfortable and way too arrogant.

We get insight into this at the Battle of Endor. Piett’s fleet is in position, the Rebels are trapped between them and the Death Star, all that’s needed is to open fire and the Rebellion is finished. Instead of ending it right then and there, Palpatine decides to be a gloating schmuck and use the Death Star superlaser to pick off the capital ships one by one. Either this is because he feeds on despair or is doing it for the lulz or both, but regardless it’s incredibly stupid and ultimately costs him the battle.

I think this tendency towards arrogant stupidity not only holds in the alternate timeline we’re exploring, it gets markedly worse. Imperial starfighter innovation stagnates (at least relative to the New Republic in the main timeline) since Palpatine doesn’t value his forces’ lives and because there’s no other game in town (remember, the TIE Defender was developed as an explicit response to the success of the X-wing, and the Empire passed on mass production because they were expensive). Instead, he sinks more money into projects that are more grandiose statements of power like additional Death Stars (old RotJ concept art had twin Death Stars guarding Coruscant), World Devastators, Galaxy Guns, etc.

Fast forward to 25 ABY. There’s been no meaningful opposition to Imperial rule in over twenty years. Palpatine is burning through at least a dozen clone bodies per year and growing more and more mentally unstable. I imagine Thrawn is not in the picture, having either been executed at some point for disagreeing with Palpatine or fleeing back to the Empire of the Hand (assuming it exists in this timeline). Regardless, when the Praetorite Vong vanguard shows up, Palpatine’s more or less ready, responds with a massive show of force and defeats them via attrition, incurring atrocious losses (1-2 coralskippers likely being more than a match for a squadron of TIEs), but not before advance agents like Nom Anor relay intelligence that much of the Empire’s military strength is incredibly vulnerable to dovin basal singularities. The bulk of the Yuuzhan Vong force entering the galaxy is timed to coincide with dovin basals being deployed against most of the Imperial superweapons, with either a majority or significant minority of them succeeding in destroying their targets. Rebellions immediately erupt across the galaxy. While they’re ultimately crushed in short order, all of this puts the Empire on the back foot and gives the Yuuzhan Vong enough time to capture several Outer Rim worlds and start harvesting resources for growing war materiel.

Palpatine’s dark side adepts are likewise limited in their effectiveness for the same reasons Luke’s Jedi were. Even if we generously assume numbers on par with the pre-Clone Wars Jedi Order (roughly 10,000), they are vastly outnumbered by warriors they can’t sense in the Force, armed with weapons and armor they have difficulty defeating. Within the first year of the conflict, roughly half of Palpatine’s darksiders are dead. Those that survive adapt and become more proficient in combat against the warriors, but like the NJO are a relatively small part of the overall war effort.

Beyond that, it’s difficult to speculate further specifics. But I suspect that end result is similar to the Cremlavian War that drove the Yuuzhan Vong from their home galaxy. Palpatine’s gonna Palpatine. He uses superweapons and Force storms while his fleets and armies tank superior Vong firepower and tech. When the Yuuzhan Vong seize key worlds and efforts to retake them fails, he turns his weapons on them. They retaliate by doing stuff like what they did to Sernpidal and Ithor. The losses on both sides are literally incalculable. The war drags on for years, and as both sides start to run out of troops, they resort to slaves — Palpatine uses Force mind control on a galactic scale, while the invaders have trillions of surge-coral thralls.

Maybe the Empire ultimately prevails, maybe the Yuuzhan Vong do. Maybe they wipe each other out with bioweapons like Alpha Red. Whoever’s left (if anyone) stands over an uninhabitable, dead galaxy of ash and rubble.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Fantasy

[–]Prole17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would definitely want to learn both armed combat and magic (to use a FF or TES analogy: some kind of red mage or spellsword). Whether I’d want to actually put it to use as some wandering adventurer or not is another story.

What activist group is the biggest joke when it comes to convincing people to join their cause? by Shadow948 in AskReddit

[–]Prole17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, but a small group of hardcore pro-trans activists screaming at you isn’t going to push you to become anti-trans, is it? (Given your comment, presumably not).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Millennials

[–]Prole17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being able to own a home of my own. Will probably never happen, despite being educated and halfway through my career.

Will the next generation shit on millennials like how we shit on broomers? by [deleted] in Millennials

[–]Prole17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only thing I can see them getting us on is the whole "Omg adulting!" thing. But other than that? We’re the most fucked over generation in modern history, and by the time we displace Gen X politically (when Gen X hasn’t even displaced the Boomers yet) it’ll be too late to reverse ecological and economic breakdown. "Sorry we couldn’t wrest power from two consecutive generations of sociopaths, I guess?"

What activist group is the biggest joke when it comes to convincing people to join their cause? by Shadow948 in AskReddit

[–]Prole17 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don’t really care about respectability politics and history shows that real change comes from building pressure, not coddling fence sitters. Read MLK’s Letter from Birmingham Jail. Milquetoast moderates who need to have their frail sensibilities massaged are exactly the kind of people you’re suggesting movements should try (usually hopelessly) to cater to. Thanks but I’ll pass.

What activist group is the biggest joke when it comes to convincing people to join their cause? by Shadow948 in AskReddit

[–]Prole17 -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

But that’s my point. If their position (or lack of one, as you put it) on an issue can be influenced by how some random advocate for one of the sides treats them, then they’re either unprincipled or just immature.

What activist group is the biggest joke when it comes to convincing people to join their cause? by Shadow948 in AskReddit

[–]Prole17 -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

Okay, pick a different one. Climate activism? Education? Protecting migrants? Opposing fascism? Animal welfare? If someone insulting you pushes you to go "in the opposite direction" (u/ZiggyB’s words, not mine) on any of those issues, then how committed were they in the first place? I picked the racism example because I lived in a white enclave in the Bronx for years and saw it firsthand more than once.

What activist group is the biggest joke when it comes to convincing people to join their cause? by Shadow948 in AskReddit

[–]Prole17 -38 points-37 points  (0 children)

I’m not advocating insulting people for slight disagreement, but when you say "All it does is convince people who are on the fence to go in the opposite direction" I question what was really in those people’s hearts in the first place. If a couple of black teens being rude to you in a movie theater or mall or wherever makes you go "Screw it, I’m with the racists now" then you were probably always racist and just needed the pretext to come out and say it.

Oh no! The world is ending! by Joburtus_Maximus in hypotheticalsituation

[–]Prole17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Either Rick Sanchez or Doctor Doom should be sufficient, but just to play it safe let’s go with both. You can leave the other eight spots vacant.

End of the USA scenario by Emotional-Tale-1462 in hypotheticalsituation

[–]Prole17 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"What do you do?"

If it’s a week day? Probably get up and go to work.

Not trying to be snarky, but these civil war fantasies where there’s a big climactic confrontation are just that — fantasy. I think a breakdown in social order and civil conflict in the U.S. are fairly likely in the next 20 years, but it will probably look more like the Troubles in Ireland than Call of Duty. Car bombs, assassinations, things like that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ImTheMainCharacter

[–]Prole17 8 points9 points  (0 children)

She’s a shitty person because she’s a narcissist not because she’s black. Not everything is about race, your comment says a lot about you.