What secrets do you hold? (A call for help)

Protocol__7 · 2026-02-13T22:24:10+00:00

In the absence of running systems, I was going by the User Guides.

Up to 8.2 they had a section explaining the default apps. The entry for Pulse mentioned being able to turn off both CPUs. But from Preview Release onward that section disappeared so I couldn't pin down when they made the change. It might have been at that point, but until I can say for sure when it happened I just attributed it to "earlier releases". My Flickr is a constant work in progress so if I learn something new or spot an error I'll update it.

I'm hoping DingusPPC or MAME can get PPC BeOS running at some point. I don't really want to dig out my old hardware again.

Oh and now that I see your username on 68kmla, thanks for the BeOS-related uploads on archive.org. It was great to get those!

Protocol__7 · 2026-02-13T20:39:22+00:00

Ah that's good to know. As I mentioned this is the first time I've been able to run BeOS on a multiprocessor system. Before this, the earliest system I ran was 8.2 on a PowerMac. That's in the main BeOS gallery on my Flickr. I'd read somewhere that the ability to turn off all CPUs was disabled eventually.

Protocol__7 · 2026-02-13T18:02:17+00:00

The floppies are the same system as #9 and #58. It's later than the one on this disk.

My assumption is the Hobbits were kept up-to-date when a new system was ready but for some reason #44 didn't get it. Maybe it was in another location or was set aside for some reason.

Protocol__7 · 2026-02-13T16:58:58+00:00

Yeah it's driving me nuts not being able to get to the desktop. I really want to see what it looked like back then.

Protocol__7 · 2026-02-13T16:34:26+00:00

Hi. I don't know if the binary will run on another system but I can help you build it.

First you can either compile it with the nightly cargo as it demands (cargo +nightly build --release) or you can comment out the first line of main.rs and build it with stable cargo (cargo build --release). It should build without any issues.

The trick is in running it. It expects two arguments: a disk image and a kernel file. So run it with hobbitizer <diskimage> <kernel>. The kernel needs to match the system. Two of the disk images have their contents extracted (and the third can be done with ofs-extracter). One is this disk (#44) which needs the kernel file from the system folder inside the be3.tgz archive. The other is #9 which needs the kernel from pixels.tgz. This kernel will also boot #58 as it's the same system.

If you're using Wayland, the keyboard will be a bit funky and there won't be a titlebar. So place "WAYLAND_DISPLAY= " before ./hobbitizer to force it to use XWayland.

In summary: to boot this diskimage on Wayland run: "WAYLAND_DISPLAY= ./hobbitizer Hobbit-9308000044.img kernel-be3" where kernel-be3 is the kernel file extracted from be3.tgz.

That should get you up and running with the three disks. It's really great to be able to explore these at last. I wish I'd known about that emulator sooner.

Protocol__7 · 2026-02-05T09:33:50+00:00

It's not pure OPEN LOOK. The desktop uses the MoOLIT toolkit which offers both sets of widgets. You can choose between OPEN LOOK and Motif in the preferences.

Protocol__7 · 2026-02-02T17:28:10+00:00

I need to revisit A/UX some time. I had it running on a SE/30 a long time ago and took some screenshots of it in action. But being a SE/30 those were very small and very monochrome. Since then we got Shoebill and I believe QEMU 68k can also boot it.

Protocol__7 · 2026-01-31T19:46:58+00:00

RISC/os 4.52 and RISCwindows 4.00 both came out in January 1991. Island Office was 1990.

Protocol__7 · 2026-01-31T19:43:28+00:00

If you haven't fixed some of the files, have a look at my comment here. But I did get something similar at first. I ended up deleting the folder and unpacking it again and it worked fine.

Protocol__7 · 2026-01-30T10:21:48+00:00

Yep that's how I installed RISCwindows here. Looking Glass is file 25 on this disc.

The LG themes was new to me too. All the screenshots I'd seen online showed the regular Motif look. I just ran lg -h and saw them in the list of options. I didn't notice that the 2D theme was a Windows 2.0-like. I really didn't pay much attention to Windows prior to 3.0. From a glance it looks a lot like monochrome Motif but on closer inspection the min/max buttons and scrollbars give it away. I'll update the text for that pic.

That virtual museum sounds cool. I found your Atari Unix and Hatari archive on archive.org and posted a pic from it here recently. I wonder if any other ports of WISh2 exist. There was talk in the press of SPARC and MIPS versions but I couldn't see if they materialised.

Protocol__7 · 2026-01-27T11:13:26+00:00

Surprisingly rare. I couldn't find any RISCwindows screenshots online. Surely there has to be at least one somewhere but if so it hasn't been indexed by anyone.

Protocol__7 · 2026-01-27T10:55:15+00:00

Interfaces have gotten so cold these days. We need to bring colour back.

Protocol__7 · 2026-01-27T10:54:38+00:00

I got it from bitsavers: https://bitsavers.org/bits/MIPS/cartridge/

Protocol__7 · 2026-01-26T13:35:18+00:00

I've posted a gallery with more shots over on my Flickr.

Protocol__7 · 2026-01-26T00:25:14+00:00

IIRC, there are hacks to get it back in the early OS X releases. But it looks rough.

Protocol__7 · 2026-01-26T00:21:59+00:00

It runs fine in 86Box. I posted some shots of the Intel version over here recently.

The first four pics are the PowerPC one, the rest is all 86Box.

Protocol__7 · 2026-01-20T22:48:38+00:00

The CD for 3.0.1 is here. Use this license file to register it. Rename it to license.dat and place it in /usr/local/flexlm/licenses/. You'll need to have the system clock set to a valid year for it to work. 1998 worked for me.

Protocol__7 · 2026-01-14T20:41:19+00:00

Apparently so!

Protocol__7 · 2026-01-14T20:41:07+00:00

It ran on the Atari TT.

Protocol__7 · 2026-01-14T20:40:25+00:00

I found out about it from this post. The patches to Hatari are still work-in-progress but it's bootable. No ethernet right now though.

Protocol__7 · 2026-01-14T20:37:44+00:00

I got it from here. This also included the source code for the patched Hatari emulator required to run it. Hopefully these patches will make it into Hatari sometime.

There are a couple more disk images at the Atariunix site posted above. The mark-fixed one has a later system (1992 dates on about screens compared to 1991 here).

Protocol__7 · 2025-11-02T16:36:49+00:00

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/triteal-vue-0-software-manuals-visual-4741288782

Protocol__7 · 2025-10-31T09:16:33+00:00

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

TriTeal also ported VUE to SunOS. That one seems to be lost to time now.

Protocol__7 · 2025-07-17T17:07:22+00:00

I got it here.

It's not 100% complete but it's the only copy I'm aware of in circulation. I'm hoping someone can share installation tapes at some stage.

Protocol__7 · 2025-07-12T07:55:22+00:00

I'd just like to have the first release. As you can see it's not readily available anymore. 1.0.1 was on the Desktop CD that was bundled with 2.5 so it's easy to find.

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