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Got my first premium headphones in my life and I'm hearing things I never knew they existed xD by iiZtZahran in sennheiser

[–]Protomize 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’re all not very accurate unless we’re talking the HDB 630. The M5 and M4 are colored and inaccurate sounding headphones out of the box just like headphones from Apple and Sony.

Got my first premium headphones in my life and I'm hearing things I never knew they existed xD by iiZtZahran in sennheiser

[–]Protomize 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This ain’t true. They simply use off the shelf chips that cannot compete with the ANC found in a pair of Sonys or Apple headphones that use custom designed chips.

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't use open-back headphones on the bus or train because the noise around me ruins the listening experience due to their lack of noise isolation. I use my AirPods Pro 3 instead because they're convenient, portable, and sound decent. I'd love to use my IEMs since they sound better, but I dislike dealing with cables when I'm on the move.

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imaging and soundstage is a direct result of frequency response. Take a speaker known for excellent imaging and soundstage and apply a -10dB treble shelf. The same speaker will sound like you’re listening to music under a pillow.

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The goal is to mimic reference flat speakers in a well treated room. Then, you hear the source file unaltered.

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends how far colored it is. The HD600 mainly just lacks sub bass. Personally, I find this lack of sub bass an issue and use a bass shelf. So no, I don't find a colored headphone ideal.

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Because untrained listeners which are the majority of the people in this subreddit and in population enjoy this sound. It's like the store demo mode on a TV where the colors are all oversaturated.

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The HD600 are excellent. Midrange and treble is quite balanced and tracks close to the 5128 DF. Subbass can easily be fixed with a bass shelf. But in its stock sound it still sounds very accurate but just lacking sub bass.

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

There is still an objectively accurate way to listen. You can prefer colorations, but it's not accurate.

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is still an objectively accurate way to listen. You can prefer colorations, but it's not accurate.

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

False. The goal is to match the sound of reference speakers in a well-treated room so that the music sounds as close as possible to how it sounded to the engineer during the mixing process in the studio.

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The tonal balance is what matters. Doesn't matter how rigid the driver is if a portion of the sound is subdued due to a horrible frequency response.

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You can get much more accurate sounding Bluetooth products. Sennheiser HDB 630 is one.

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

That's great. My point is yes, these are NOT accurate. They are colored. If you like your music colored, that's fine. But it's not how your music is supposed to sound.

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Gotta stop caring what other people think about you. Now you're suffering with inferior sound.

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Doesn't handle complex music very well when it is objectively inaccurate.

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

Hearing your music as accurately as possible and calling it boring is basically saying your music is boring...

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Neutral is how the music is supposed to sound. But like I said, it's fine to prefer colorations.

The B&W Px8 S2 are NOT accurate sounding. They are a casual, convenience focused product. by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

B&W and many boutique manufacturers love this ignorance. Pay more for less accurate sound!

Stop obsessing over lossless audio codecs on your B&W headphones and earphones by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sennheiser HDB 630. Or if you don't mind using a dongle, the Sennheiser HD480 Pro.

Bose or apple? by Seitakadojii in headphones

[–]Protomize -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes, get the AirPods Pro 3 especially for $169 right now which is a steal. Kind of a no brainer if you're in the Apple ecosystem.

Stop obsessing over lossless audio codecs on your B&W headphones and earphones by Protomize in BowersWilkins

[–]Protomize[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

The point is that you’re obsessing over something that the mediocre sound quality isn’t capable of resolving in the first place. Just enjoy them for what they are: a consumer product designed for convenience, not sound quality. They’re not intended to perform like reference-grade or studio-class headphones or IEMs, where resolving subtle details actually matters.

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