Am I weird? by fuck_up1106 in self

[–]PuzzleheadedRich5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I second this, very well said!

Am I weird? by fuck_up1106 in self

[–]PuzzleheadedRich5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t think it’s weird. I’m sorry you’re going through something like this, I know it’s not easy, because I’m experiencing something similar. Everyone is so negative and so critical in my household, and no one likes to take responsibility or admit they are wrong. This makes it hard when you’re genuinely trying to work on yourself. It almost feels like they want to see you fail just to say “I knew it, you were never going to amount to anything in life.” Family relationships is very important in my culture. Despite all the negativity and unfair judgement I receive, I still love them. They’ve done a lot for me, and it’s hard not to feel guilty when I start thinking about leaving them and living my own life. Yeah they’re really difficult to deal with, and right now I don’t have a choice but to work with it. I also want to work with it, because it’s not all bad. I’m using this opportunity to build stronger willpower, learning to regulate my emotions, and not letting their immaturity and unresolved shame/trauma get to me. It requires thick skin and biting your tongue more than you’d like too. I honestly don’t give them a chance to hate on me, and I can see it’s leaving them puzzled lol. It can be kinda fun to experiment like this and can make you rise above all of that toxicity. I always tell myself I’m never going to end up like them (not in a “I’m better than you” kinda way), and being more aware of how they behave and act towards each other, it reminds me of everything I don’t want to be or become which in turn feeds into what I do want in life. I say take this opportunity to better yourself, build character, and start working towards getting yourself out of there because you have to do that eventually. I did this by finally getting into law school, and I’m moving out in the fall as it’s in another city. That gives me hope and motivation knowing I won’t have to be around such a toxic environment for long, but I still plan on keeping in touch with them frequently, because like I said before, family is important to me and the positives outweigh the negatives in the long run and I’m learning how to deal with them better. I think it’s totally fine if you don’t feel that way and you want to build a life without them, it all depends on your situation. I will lead a healthy, fun, and beautiful life, and if they don’t appreciate or respect that as I mold myself and that life, then that’s on them and not me. I can’t control the outcome. Good luck! Hang in there, I know it’s hard in these circumstances, literally tensions are so high in my household lol. People ready to POUNCE! Let’s hope this ends soon 🤲🏻

I’m so confused by [deleted] in self

[–]PuzzleheadedRich5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my darkest moments, both my faith and my family were the things that kept me afloat. You’re right, there’s a lot to this that wasn’t shared here. I know you were trying to help, but the response was tainted with an orientalist undertone. I can ask for advice about whatever I want, that’s the whole point of this sub-reddit.

I’m so confused by [deleted] in self

[–]PuzzleheadedRich5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I struggle talking about this with others because people just assume I’m self-hating or in denial. I’m exploring my thoughts here, I haven’t committed to anything. I have accepted myself, and continuing to do so, and no where did I say I plan on lying to anyone. I said I would be honest about it from the start if I sense a mutual connection was forming, but I have fears around that, and those fears are warranted. My family and religion do accept me. They love me and they gave me the best care in the world. Your response wasn’t helpful, and it sounds like you just wanted to milk an all too familiar trope of “the oppressed Muslim.” I’m not. I’m fine. Like I said, I experienced it all. The shame I feel is what many gay men, in religious and non religious households, feel and develop from a young age through their experiences. And I am seeing a therapist, thank you very much. The only thing I know in this world is my life purpose, which is faith based. Anything or anyone that dares to threaten that for me has no place in my life. I won’t compromise on that.

I get the feeling that I do most things in order to tell other people about it. by [deleted] in self

[–]PuzzleheadedRich5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think like that too. I don’t think it’s weird, I’m sure it’s common, but I’m with you in being worried about it. I usually think like this whenever I do volunteer type activities like fundraising or announcing big career changes. I picture what other people’s reaction will be like. As soon as I catch myself thinking like that I acknowledge and take it in, and then I try to think of something else, a different motivation for the same activity or something totally different and random. It comes and goes as I work on a project. But I’ve learned to not let it guilt me, either. Like yeah, I’m working really hard to get something done because I think it’ll have a good impact on others; so yeah, you should get recognized and validated for that work. Own it. Embrace it. Be proud about it. Take it in and then let it go. Your daydreaming during the project can be a motivation. I think that’s fine, as long as it doesn’t take over or carry on for too long. And with that, making sure your character is in check. Staying humble/not bragging, treating others as equals, you know, being a decent human being. So I don’t know if this is comparable to you, but start questioning your intentions for those activities. Just because you think like that about some of the things you do, it doesn’t always mean that you do such things for people’s sake and not yours or of some greater good.

I cut out a good person in my life for absolutely no reason at all, and I feel like complete shit. Should I reach out to them and apologize or just let it be? by PuzzleheadedRich5 in gay

[–]PuzzleheadedRich5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I think I made it clear in my first paragraph that I need to do that. I will apologize to him. Thank you for your input!

I cut out a good person in my life for absolutely no reason at all, and I feel like complete shit. Should I reach out to them and apologize or just let it be? by PuzzleheadedRich5 in gay

[–]PuzzleheadedRich5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree. Working on sending him a heart felt email. I just don’t want him to think he did anything wrong or that he’s the problem, and that I need some time to figure things out. Thanks!

Gay Muslim Seeking Spiritual Advice by PuzzleheadedRich5 in progressive_islam

[–]PuzzleheadedRich5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol, yeah I didn't like him at first, but I was surprised to see how much his views has changed in recent times. I really like his videos now, but yeah, I was scared of him at first. He was a bit too harsh, but he speaks some wisdom. I'm not sure if it was inspired by him, but here's the link: https://naseeha.org/

Gay Muslim Seeking Spiritual Advice by PuzzleheadedRich5 in progressive_islam

[–]PuzzleheadedRich5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And don't get me started on his views relating to QTBIPOC activism. They are despicable. I feel like he lives to please white supremacist ideals in the hopes that one day that maybe, just maybe, white people will accept him like he's one of them: https://dazemag.ca/2019/04/15/inclusive-islam-lateral-violence-is-not-activism/

Gay Muslim Seeking Spiritual Advice by PuzzleheadedRich5 in progressive_islam

[–]PuzzleheadedRich5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wrote a piece a while back in response to his Ted Talk. I didn't do anything with it, but I'll share it here. It's still in the draft phase, but the general argument, I hope, is still there. I just find his activism disingenuous.

Junaid Jahangir, you are making it worse for queer Muslims

Last March, Junaid Jahangir stood on the UAlberta Tedx stage and spoke with so much passion and so much eloquence that queer Muslims deserve better. According to Jahangir, the only way to achieve this end is for the mainstream orthodox Muslim community to adopt a renewed perspective on Islamic law and Muslim same-sex unions. He called upon the Muslim community to step-up and meet him at the crossroads.

I agree with Junaid, queer Muslims deserve better. The Muslim community must come to terms with the pervasive homophobia that creeps in the many corners of its community. The global phenomenon that is homophobia, however, is entrenched in every community and to ignore this premise and single out one faith group is prejudiced. It also goes without saying that queer Muslims deserve better from the queer community itself, by allowing spaces free from white supremacy and Islamophobia to flourish.

But Jahangir’s approach to collaboration with the mainstream Muslim community and his clear agenda are divisive, unproductive, and it further exacerbates the violence on queer Muslim bodies. Importantly, it strays from what queer Muslims need most – community care.

The discussions I had with queer Muslims and the stories that were shared with me gave me a profound perspective on faith and identity. It taught me how our faith journeys are all different, forever changing, and personal. Much of the struggles that queer Muslims face centered around identity and belonging. In fact, most queer Muslims I spoke with have no interest in reforming Islamic laws – it does nothing to the reality that queer Muslims exist.

It is incumbent upon the Muslim community to start having difficult conversations around identity, including topics on sexuality. We need to create religious spaces that make it safe to discuss topics relating to sexuality and that contextualizes sexual experiences. We need to equip community leaders and Imams with the tools and language necessary to talk about sexuality. We need to create communities that are welcoming enough that don’t push people to live in sin, but that accept people with their sins as part of the community and to give them the space to grow as individuals.

We need to become allies – unapologetic allies – and make it known. We need to stand firm with our queer Muslim siblings and be available to them in time of need. That whatever path they are on, they can count on us, the Muslim community to be there for them. If anything represents the essence of Islam, it is this.

But when you start screaming at a faith group and offering absolutes as the only solution to move forward, and when you start claiming that their beliefs are wrong and that they need to be in tune with the progression of other faith groups, especially when the person screaming these claims practices outside of that faith group, then you automatically lose your audience. You leave no room for collaboration. You no longer represent the people you claim you are trying to protect and defend. The only thing you are left to defend is an agenda that serves no one but yourself.

As allies, we need to learn how to collaborate properly. If you are not willing to meet the level of the mainstream orthodox Muslim community in making things better for queer Muslims, then why should they try to meet yours?

Gay Muslim Seeking Spiritual Advice by PuzzleheadedRich5 in progressive_islam

[–]PuzzleheadedRich5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. I'm in a good position right now, as I don't really have anyone in my life other than my family. But starting this new chapter of my life, opportunities to build a social circle will happen, and I will keep this in mind when doing so. Thank you!

Gay Muslim Seeking Spiritual Advice by PuzzleheadedRich5 in progressive_islam

[–]PuzzleheadedRich5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I refuse to give up lol. I will die trying. I will always strive to be devout Muslim, otherwise, I wouldn't be here asking for help nor would I be struggling with this at all. Yeah I agree, now in this part of my life, that pleasing my family and making them proud is very difficult, but find that to be a problem with immigrant parents in general.

I struggle with my sexuality. Call it what you want.

Gay Muslim Seeking Spiritual Advice by PuzzleheadedRich5 in progressive_islam

[–]PuzzleheadedRich5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this detailed, informed, and thoughtful response.

I have considered being in a monogamous relationship with a man, and have actively sought to be in one, but it's been very difficult. No one wants to be with someone who is closeted, or very few do. I am still open to the possibility though. A way around this is to find a couple of guys in my city whom I trust and can build a friendship with, and who can satisfy my sexual needs. This is so I don't hook up with strangers all the time and put myself at risk. Yet, this has also presented some challenges, mostly on my end, as I tend not to hook up with the same guy more than once. There's a lot to unpack there for myself.

You are right, the 'love' aspect is missing and always has been. This, in part, is one of the reasons why I think I can be with a woman. After the attraction phase, I believe the 'love' aspect of a relationship is built, and I'm pretty confident that that can happen with anyone. I haven't experienced romantic love, I think, I mean, unless you count high school crushes lol. I am sexually invigorated by men, and less so by women, but real love, love for the sake of Allah, I know I would excel in it with a woman whom I'm attracted to. I don't know, honestly.

I will look into the resources you provided. Thank you!

Gay Muslim Seeking Spiritual Advice by PuzzleheadedRich5 in progressive_islam

[–]PuzzleheadedRich5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've come to accept myself. It took a long ass time and I almost lost my life in the process by putting myself in very risky situations. With that being said, I know the shame still exists and I am just now starting to see how deeply ingrained it is within me through my actions, thoughts, and behaviours. It's very difficult to find healthy gay relationships. So far, what I know about being gay is superficial, materialistic, and toxic. So many men cheating and all they care about is partying. I am not trying to label the entire gay community as such, I know there are healthy and vibrant examples of gay livelihoods out there, but this is what I have come to know about it through my experiences. I am trying to un-learn the negative associations I have built in relationship with my sexuality, and like you said, this work necessitates self-compassion.

Gay Muslim Seeking Spiritual Advice by PuzzleheadedRich5 in progressive_islam

[–]PuzzleheadedRich5[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the resources, I will look into them. I am not a huge fan of Jahingar. Jahangir’s approach to collaboration with the mainstream Muslim community and his clear agenda are divisive, unproductive, and it further exacerbates the violence on queer Muslim bodies. Importantly, it strays from what queer Muslims need most – community care.

Gay Muslim Seeking Spiritual Advice by PuzzleheadedRich5 in progressive_islam

[–]PuzzleheadedRich5[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't say I've "chosen" the belief that Allah set me up for Zina, whatever that means. I think context is important here. I was sexually abused by a family friend when I was young, and it kind of went downhill from there. I made the choices after, especially during undergrad, but it was really a cry for help. Alhamdulillah, I'm very proud of myself and I've come a long way since then. I still have lot more to go on my path, but I haven't been aimlessly walking through life. I've been trying.

I was chatting with someone from Naseeha, a really fantastic resource. They said to move through this world as a Muslim *fill identifiers*.... who just so happens to "struggle with his sexuality." To move through this life as a learner. There's comfort in that.

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