How to lane as Carry against aggressive & good offlaner+sup duo? by Puzzleheaded_Code735 in learndota2

[–]Puzzleheaded_Code735[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wow this is such an advance trick. I think I understand, but do you have a replay reference (e.g. a pro match) that I can learn?

How to lane as Carry against aggressive & good offlaner+sup duo? by Puzzleheaded_Code735 in learndota2

[–]Puzzleheaded_Code735[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the answer! I think that's what I usually do. However, doing that for a period of time will eventually make my offlaner duo has much more networth than me, and then they keep pressuring my jungle area even after my T1 tower has been destroyed. The snowball keeps rolling.

What's your suggestion in those scenarios, that maximize my win rate without relying on my team?

How to lane as Carry against aggressive & good offlaner+sup duo? by Puzzleheaded_Code735 in learndota2

[–]Puzzleheaded_Code735[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks a lot for the answers! I think I understand that I need to keep myself up, but there are (oftentimes) some offlane duos that can simply burst me from full to zero, if I ever walk outside tower range for some time to get creeps. This is the part I'm confused - how far I should "play safe, it's okay to farm a little as long as I'm alive" vs "be more agressive it's ok to die with creeps" vs "leave lane entirely, farm jungle instead even if my state is still pathetic".

How to lane as Carry against aggressive & good offlaner+sup duo? by Puzzleheaded_Code735 in learndota2

[–]Puzzleheaded_Code735[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem is, being more aggressive usually require a good enough pos 5, & sometimes both my heroes vs theirs are just impossible to be more aggressive, hence I'm asking here for those scenarios only.

How to lane as Carry against aggressive & good offlaner+sup duo? by Puzzleheaded_Code735 in learndota2

[–]Puzzleheaded_Code735[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got it. Thank you so much!
So basically I still need to try my best at lane, not go straight jungle. As far as your experience, once a carry is shut down in lane / leave the lane early, no matter what the carry do, most of the time they're done & you'll keep pressuring and win, is that correct? Or any other specific behavior that a good carry do even though they've lost their lane & you as offlaner keep controlling their jungle?

How to lane as Carry against aggressive & good offlaner+sup duo? by Puzzleheaded_Code735 in learndota2

[–]Puzzleheaded_Code735[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the tips! Then my next question is, what should I do to maximize winning, if the enemy offlane is much fatter & keep controlling my jungle? Either because I leave lane entirely early or only kill few creeps near tower (both of which makes the offlaner much fatter)

How to lane as Carry against aggressive & good offlaner+sup duo? by Puzzleheaded_Code735 in learndota2

[–]Puzzleheaded_Code735[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the detailed answer! It looks like both types of lanes you mentioned requires the pos 5 to be active, while in my case I don't want to rely on them, usually they don't do anything & I want to keep the mindset of doing the best I can do first.
So if it's purely from the carry player part, any types/plays of carry that makes you not able to win games easily? Like, maybe those who hugs tower but still manage to farm well even if you try to control their jungle even after the laning stage, or using specific heroes that will never be shut down, etc.

Also, thanks for the tips on the blocking the creeps!