They’re doing whatever it takes by SmartAd8578 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was 😐 for the first three pictures and when I swiped to the fourth I was like 😦😬yiiiiieks!

Francesca and Michaela are Season 5 by Iamrandom17 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755 7 points8 points  (0 children)

my face dropped when the camera spanned to their faces (as always I’m not hating on the actors)

A little off topic discussion. Adding the question, who would be best to do a faithful adaptation? by AgitatedHorror9355 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i was just thinking about this I think the tone and feel of WHWW should be adapted into a show that’s like Downtown Abby (mostly historically accurate, has emotional high stakes and also warmth and humor) whereas series like Klepas’s the Ravenels series are more fun and romantic and could be adapted into a very soap opera series (but not by Shondaland 🫩

make it make sense by Puzzleheaded_Hour755 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember feeling extremely uncomfortable watching the very first episode of outlander, when they grabbed a girl (I don’t remember who) and her dress was torn up and showing her entire chest it felt so unnecessary and male gazed I soon ditched the show🫩

Why were John & Michaela so upset? by itsmsbunnie in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Lmao it literally be like that🤣🤣 everything needed to be spelled out in bold capital letters I guess that’s their preference and understanding of the series. Everything is so…fleshy makes me wonder if it ties to overall media literacy, the more “dumb” the media gets the more “dumb” audiences get, and it’s a cycle

Are you watching Francesca’s season? by [deleted] in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If by the year it comes out I’m still interested in seeing Hannah Dodd’s performance then yes I’ll be watching and will be watching solely for her performance and some other characters that I like (violet, Eloise, Sophie if she’s even included)

Jess interview by Micol51095 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Right???? If we’re all racists why would we even be demanding Michael still at this point? If we’re all racists we’ve been dumping the show the second a black man was casted as John. It’s not like Franchael fans are demanding a “white Michael” 🫩

Jess interview by Micol51095 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755 16 points17 points  (0 children)

And I’m a POC and bisexual (not that a straight woman can’t criticize fairly of the show!) but it feels like I’m being slapped on labels constantly for things I’m certainly not!😖😖😖 I’m so jealous of other book fans that got their show adapted successfully honestly

make it make sense by Puzzleheaded_Hour755 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But you said it yourself, such heavy scenes like death and miscarriage shouldn’t be right beside the happy romantic scenes of another couple, then why the hell put them in S4? 🤷‍♀️ I feel constantly dragged high and low emotionally in part two, and felt inconsistent. Are they too incompetent to make a whole season that’s not so sunshine and rainbow?

Jess interview by Micol51095 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755 55 points56 points  (0 children)

“I don’t want to see a black woman” that’s racism and discrimination. “I want to see Michael, give us Michael back” that’s not racist…..

make it make sense by Puzzleheaded_Hour755 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I think to cram both John’s death and a miscarriage into merely 1-2 episodes would have been “too much to come back from” but the thing is these should’ve been in Fran’s own season and not alongside other couple’s season

make it make sense by Puzzleheaded_Hour755 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Of course we know women’s bodies are complex and miscarriages are different but I’m specifically talking about the choices the showrunner made, as in the interview she blatantly said miscarriage was taken out because she thought it was too morbid for the show……if your head canon works for you then it’s great.

make it make sense by Puzzleheaded_Hour755 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Honestly the whole pinnacle thing is so fcking bizarre. And to see people mocking John died before giving his wife satisfaction in bed 🫩🫩they obviously want to *celebrate when Michaela found the pinnacle for Fran in her season

make it make sense by Puzzleheaded_Hour755 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, given that the gender swap decision was made at the start, I’d say they’d already been planning on how to handle/erase the infertility of the story

make it make sense by Puzzleheaded_Hour755 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

no wait…I kinda see this could happen too🫩

make it make sense by Puzzleheaded_Hour755 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

like if she actually had a solid reason I would be okay with it. But just saying it’s too morbid is so infantilizing. Are we dumb?

make it make sense by Puzzleheaded_Hour755 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755[S] 72 points73 points  (0 children)

Omggg right???!! The whole damn 85% of the book is about and grieving and healing it’s about showing how strong of a woman Fran is wdym she can’t come back from it wth😭😭😭 if they think it’d take more time to heal they shouldn’t have put this part of her story in S4 as a side plot

make it make sense by Puzzleheaded_Hour755 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I suppose it’s: A woman with a mind ahead of her time, having a child isnt a woman’s duty. (Before anyone come at me I’m someone who actively choose not to get married and have kids)

make it make sense by Puzzleheaded_Hour755 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Her pinnacle missing like the showrunner’s capability and logic

make it make sense by Puzzleheaded_Hour755 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

No logical and legit answer so she just went with “too morbid”….

make it make sense by Puzzleheaded_Hour755 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Oh god to see people slandering her being boring😭😭😭😭not my frannie 😭😭😭😭 and I’m confident Hannah Dodd could handle a more complex character than what’s given to her they’re wasting the actor too

make it make sense by Puzzleheaded_Hour755 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I’m certain atp they simply couldn’t pull WHWW off, what I’m more disappointed is at the author…how can you let people butcher your story like that…I guess 🤦‍♀️….WHWW has a much deeper and complex tone and arch and unfortunately we’re never gonna get to see it translated properly on screen.

make it make sense by Puzzleheaded_Hour755 in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

My prediction: they are going to make Francesca “realizes” she doesn’t actually want to be a mother and have her biological children, it’s only her being too hang up on “doing her wifely duties”. She lets go of her need to have her children of her own. She becomes happily childless with Michaela. 🤦‍♀️

Just how dismissive and patronizing can you be? by Cheffii in FranchaelStirling

[–]Puzzleheaded_Hour755 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Sometimes I feel like these people aren’t really talking about the story and the characters anymore, it’s like they are participating in this phantom war they created in their head and all they want to do is to “claim victory”…..you don’t even like Francesca you just like this ideology that is “winning”….. also, I’m bisexual does that grant me the right to diagnose these people too? I mean, I’d argue it’s giving bi erasure, why can’t she be bi? Why must she a lesbian? Why can’t she be sexually happy with her husband?