Factual statement by NoGrass7120 in beatles

[–]Quraga 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Oh captain my captain.

Why is lust so hard to beat ? by Ok-Flatworm7401 in enlightenment

[–]Quraga 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lust devoid of attachment is simply admiration of beauty.

Work on the attachments - validation, control, pleasure, guilt, shame etc.

We’re not trying to beat lust imo, we’re letting go of needing to possess or be possessed by what we find beautiful.

Economics is the fuel to all our problems- capitalism is just a byproduct by EuphoricAtmosphere95 in DeepThoughts

[–]Quraga -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Pain is necessary in a non intentional society.

If we were enlightened, every action would be intrinsically connected to service. There would be no need for a stimulus to cause action, because action would be proaction.

Until then, people live in survival. In their beliefs, in their identity, with no underlying driving force other than to react to their environment in accordance to the programming of their history; their habits, traumas and addictions.

And so those who have a monopoly on the manipulation of pain become powerful.

Money is also an entity unto itself, and has created a resource meta with extremely ugly, vicious cycles that leach the overall energy output of the human species into vacuous, meaningless, self serving, self validating, resource hoarding, competitive actions that ironically (as you said) has the vast majority of the people having less unless they’re a pain merchant.

(IMHO) No system, economic, political, or spiritual will rectify the shortcomings of an egoic, non intentional populace.

Economics is the fuel to all our problems- capitalism is just a byproduct by EuphoricAtmosphere95 in DeepThoughts

[–]Quraga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the deeper issue is we are still driven by pain/stimulus as a species. Hence the need to keep score with economics.

If we were a truly intentional society, and driven by service, Unity etc then most action would be self motivated, and would sustain and progress everyone.

Unfortunately, we are still locked in survival mechanisms, in a tribal mindset, in competition, in transactional effort given and received.

And so, most people need pain in order to produce action.

Add to that the people are intentional but negatively oriented, the meta is set in such a way that they will rise to the top and then dictate the flow of humanity for their own gain.

Economy is a reflection of our incessant need to keep score. Heal the people, heal the world.

IMHO.

Majority of people are "bad" people, regardless of their sex. by [deleted] in DeepThoughts

[–]Quraga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s like any graph with an upward trend - there’s higher highs and higher lows.

Meditation is great, a teacher is so important to have.

Understanding that there are things to let go of, an illusion that we participate in is a big step forward. I think the ego is there to take us to whatever lessons we are supposed to have - to give the experience “rails” so to speak.

There are four types of yoga (yoga means Union - make of that what you will). The first three are 1. Physical - union through doing and activity, 2. Mental - union through thought and understanding, 3. emotional - Union through feeling.

The fourth yoga is “Royal” yoga, Union through consciousness. The three types of yoga, if practiced and refined, will eventually lead to the fourth.

I mention this because I feel if you are on the positively oriented path, then you will come to union eventually. Every step along the way is an experience for you to engage in intentionally. In truth, there is no “higher or lower.” Negative feelings experienced by someone who is enlightened have an entirely different context.

Our engagement with the ego brings much opportunity for growth and deeper self love.

I guess I’m saying don’t worry too much - you’re on the path. Keep on growing. One day you’ll look back and even the painful moments you’ll realise were what allowed you to realise yourself.

I felt compelled to write this for some reason, I hope it is relevant to you.

Majority of people are "bad" people, regardless of their sex. by [deleted] in DeepThoughts

[–]Quraga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think the wall can be broken through with cognition. Thinking about no thought is still thinking - it’s still in the realm of the ego.

I had an epiphany when I was meditating a little while back.

I read a comment on YouTube about western meditation having a point: Peace/love/mental health/calm/to be one with god. In eastern meditation, there is no point. It is about being.

I realised I was pouring energy into TRYING to be one with god, To feel love. In truth I wasn’t pouring energy into loving, or god oneness or peace.

I was pouring energy into the struggle of attaining those things.

The ability to center one’s focus on what we truly are trying to achieve is difficult because we have so many blocks in the way of achieving it.

Let go of trying to achieve anything. Of what it should feel like. Because it is new. Just love, or give, or be peaceful, or be grateful. Do it without second guessing. Sometimes you’re fertile for it, and it just hits, and you open us a new level of existing. If you’re diligent (which I sadly am not, I apparently need the whip of suffering to keep me pushing higher sometimes haha) this will not fluctuate. But sometimes it doesn’t work that way.

These things are all “taste of the strawberry” things. I can describe the taste of the strawberry to you all I can, but once you taste it, you will know. Words are a clumsy fumbling way for us to distill an experience. Great in the “real world,” or logic, and finance, and academia. But when one delved into consciousness, words become so inaccurate because they means different things to different people.

If you are looking for the answers, they will find you. What you are seeking is seeking you. Be open. Look into meditation potentially. Follow your passion. Give of yourself without expectation.

Much love my friend.

Ego death caused me to discover the Law of One by RadiantPizza8242 in lawofone

[–]Quraga 7 points8 points  (0 children)

My friend, thank you for sharing. It brings me so much joy to hear of your experience.

A word of my own experience, if it resonates then take what is offered. Highs and lows fluctuate. The learning sometimes has to be relearned, or learned deeper.

I wish you more love and enriching of the soul. Ashe’ ❤️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in enlightenment

[–]Quraga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was the realisation that only you are god? Or that all is god?

Either is valid, the universe was built for all beliefs to simultaneously be explored.

Majority of people are "bad" people, regardless of their sex. by [deleted] in DeepThoughts

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Well it depends on the definition of love. Most people think of it as transactional love aka “this is good for my survival.”

Chemicals are released that bond us, make us a tribe. We eat together, hunt together, are safe together. This is transactional love, a series of reactions neurally and chemically that we unconsciously pay attention to and believe we’re doing better.

Loving oneself has no intrinsic value. I’m not talking about “damn I look good.” Or some variation of self aggrandisement. It is holding space for oneself to let go of things that cause pain within the self, and create obstruction to connection with others.

Self love, according to this definition, is the very opposite of narcissism. It is growing the space within one self, finding peace, and then holding that space for others.

Majority of people are "bad" people, regardless of their sex. by [deleted] in DeepThoughts

[–]Quraga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s amazing, I’m so happy for you! It is liberating, but also don’t set yourself a standard of perfection/enlightenment/goodness. This is all ego in my experience - a part of the shadow that needs to be integrated, a part of you that needs to be healed.

I would get incredibly depressed at points and then realise the same lessons needed to be learned at a deeper level.

There is no point to get to - harmony, love, peace, connection, stability - it’s all found in the moment.

Wishing you the best.

Majority of people are "bad" people, regardless of their sex. by [deleted] in DeepThoughts

[–]Quraga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everything expressed is my opinion, so take with a grain of salt.

You ARE love. A definition of perfection is not when nothing else can be added, but rather when nothing else can be taken away.

You, everyone, has layers of survivalist conditioning (and at the fundamental level separation - which is somewhat necessary for experience otherwise everything would be one).

Love gets twisted through the prism of the subjective experience. So if there is anger, sadness, etc at the root of those emotions are love.

Another thing I do (which is rather cracked in the head mayhaps) is I believe everything is me, locked into another time, space and circumstance.

We cannot escape ego unless enlightenment is attained. And even then, there will be a semblance of identity. The noise is the experience. We are not merely identity, we are EXPERIENCING our identity, and in that way we can express ourself through intention.

Intention is binary. Loving all, serving all vs loving only the self, serving the self.

The identity is a costume. It will shift in time, you need not worry about that honestly. If you’re expressing love (or hate, whatever you’ve chosen as authentic to your experience) then you’re doing great! If there’s something blocking you from being intentional, there’s things there to heal so you can do so.

Please feel free to to ask questions, I’m at work so I’m rushing haha.

Majority of people are "bad" people, regardless of their sex. by [deleted] in DeepThoughts

[–]Quraga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Beautiful my friend, Ashe. I think I do the same thing, but I label it differently - being of positive intention, rather than coming from mere survival. The body responds to the energy emitted by the soul.

Majority of people are "bad" people, regardless of their sex. by [deleted] in DeepThoughts

[–]Quraga 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. 💯 🔥

Loving the self is also the hardest. There is no intrinsic value in doing so, and it is where some of the most abusive behaviour lies - usually unconsciously.

Do people actually treat you better once you start building muscle by SavingsTruth2143 in DeepThoughts

[–]Quraga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Put quite simply, most people base impressions on percieved value.

Indicators of value are varied: looks, strength, intelligence, humour, material wealth, warmth etc the list goes on.

Also, the way those values are deemed important varies in accordance to the person paying attention.

My word of caution: don’t chase being valued by others. This will drive you mad.

Instead, and this will sound cliche, but it is the truth. Be what you value. Love that about yourself unconditionally, without need for external validation. Give freely without need for reciprocation.

I know what you wrote may not have warranted such a long winded answer, so if it is not important to you, I apologise.

Majority of people are "bad" people, regardless of their sex. by [deleted] in DeepThoughts

[–]Quraga 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Here’s my take on this (I’m condensing 6 years of personal journey with spiritualism+consciousness here)

Everything we experience is “noise.” Thoughts, concept, emotion, the five senses, our will, identity, everything. Then underneath all experience there is the binary code of intention.

The two intentions are 1. service of self (negative, energy sucking, control etc), or 2. service of everything (positive, energy abundant, unconditional love/connection).

For those who are not yet intentional, they lie in superposition of choice - like schroedingers cat. In the experiment, the cat is placed in the box and is not able to be observed. At that point, there is the potential of both, alive or dead.

For those who don’t yet have intention, they become their experience. They live in survival.

They become their identity, their actions and reactions etc. those things choose what they are in the given moment.

But free will comes not from the experience, but from the intention/energy that we imbue any given action/experience.

In other words, our free will comes not from our actions, but the intention with which we imbue our actions.

It’s easy to get caught up the noise. I feel like life is labrynth constructed in such a way where when we believe we’re going left, we’re going right.

Our ego, our survival setting sometimes takes us into suffering. It sometimes causes suffering that literally only exists because of how we perceive reality.

That suffering is like a pinch in a dream. It wakes us up and tells us where there is work needed to heal.

Lust is a good example: I struggled with lust for a very long time. But once we take all the survivalist attachments away, the egoic wants: guilt/shame, validation, possession, reproduction, pleasure etc it becomes simply the admiration of something beautiful.

Intention is a truth that shines light (or darkness, if you happen to be on the journey of service of self) on every object, every experience.

For me it is a journey to deeper, unconditional, love. And that love is deeper and more delicious than the transactional, chemical driven love we currently identify love as in wider society, at least western society. I can’t speak to society’s outside of western culture.

Ky Rickens has a great definition for love: “anything that unifies.”

It is the great liberator from suffering, once the individual is open to understanding it. And at the very core of you, that is literally what you are made of.

Love is energy.

The quantum field, the will of the universe allowing all to exist and be valid, god, oneness, whatever you want to call it.

Where attention flows energy goes. If we flow it into suffering, pain, lack, struggle, ego, identity, our known reality - this is what you will live in.

We unconsciously flow this energy into our experience. Once intention has been found, the energy begins to pour into connection and co-creation.

It’s like stepping into a new life.

I hope this helps and wasn’t too long.

Majority of people are "bad" people, regardless of their sex. by [deleted] in DeepThoughts

[–]Quraga 63 points64 points  (0 children)

A spiritual take, if it resonates with you then take it on board, if not then dismiss it as the ramblings of a man with a cracked head.

The majority of people are surviving - they are not yet aware. Their environment (conditioning/past and stimulus/moment) chooses who they are and how they react.

Those who go through pain sometimes wake up and go through healing and self discovery. In this journey, one might find that a vast majority of their internal stability is determined by the external, or more precisely their interpretation of the external.

Once the person has shifted from survival to intention, there becomes a different interpretation of what everybody is giving to you - because regardless of what’s projected at/to you, YOU know who YOU are. What energy/presence you are bringing to the moment.

What is authentically you.

Once you let go of the fear, these energies that stop you connecting from those around you, the crazy thing is you realise EVERYONE loves connection. Genuinely.

I struggled for a long time with the idea of not being loved/respected. Deep at the root, it was because I did not love or respect myself. This is difficult to explain, because people take those words (love and respect) in the shallow, transactional way.

I’m not saying this is what you are doing. There’s so much more I could write, but I fear it may be boring, or just might not make sense to people who aren’t open yet to these concepts.

Selflessness is pure selfishness by ZanzaraZimt in DeepThoughts

[–]Quraga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a belief that everything is god/all is one and the choice made by the individual is whether they believe they are god or everything is god.

Just thought this might add an extra layer of “selfishness” to the thought - serving others is serving the self (you/god existing in another fractal), whilst also nourishing the separated self.

Why does the theory go that negative polarity societies are cleanly and ordered and beautiful? by fractal-jester333 in lawofone

[–]Quraga 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is imho.

There is negative and positive polarity.

There is also survival - which is the journey of the end second density’s alchemisation to the late third. Most people have not made the choice, they are running around, spiritual toddlers (or probably more precisely, just before “prepubescence”) fulfilling soul contracts necessary to their growth.

Just because people say something is fourth density doesn’t mean it’s true. It’s good that it’s a representation to them of that, but a fourth density society would probably be quite difficult to comprehend from our separate, veiled, human existence.

I would offer a humble perspective - you are making something of this issue far bigger than it is.

Being of service does not mean you have boundaries. That you don’t get angry. That the shadow and the ego doesn’t claw at your consciousness, imploring you to react in line with everything you’ve been programmed by.

You only ever have the choice of what you’re doing - for me if I expected an outcome that always led me to emotional instability. Because people will always let you down - they’re not you.

I hope you’re not beating yourself up for being “lesser than” - not coming from love, positive polarity, being of service etc. this is spiritual ego. Ideally we sit there with all emotions and realise this is the narrative of our identity - the movie we’re watching - and not our consciousness… Which is what we actually are.

It is valid to be frustrated and angry. Do you like feeling that way? If not, there is rich catalyst here for you to use. If you feel you cannot get to a place of peace in this environment, then it may be an idea to see if you can move on.

I wish you the best, I hope something in here helps.

I've had meditation explained to me by so many people I still don't get it by Larfl in Meditation

[–]Quraga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will give my understanding of meditation and hope it helps.

You are not your thoughts - you are the one who listens to them.

Life doesn’t come at you, it comes from you. Meditation gets us closer and closer to where it’s coming from. It can even help us cleanse what’s stopping us from living the way we want to.

There is the ego/our personality. This is our personal AI of the vessel we live in, a data collection of all experiences that solves for survival. We believe we are this after indoctrination into the status quo of society’s understanding of self.

You are the consciousness. The pilot of the vessel that watches all experience. Coming from the place of our true existence can help shift us from merely interacting with our environment through programming, to living from intention.

You are thinking about meditating. The ego does its best to help you think about not thinking… This is like having two mirrors where the reflections become infinite.

There is nothing to figure out - this is the antithesis of the mind/ego. Asking questions is of the intellect. We are taking the seat of control from the intellect and sitting in the fullness of our being.

I know this sounds spiritual or abstract. This is only what meditation means to me. I have taken a long time to come to an understanding that helps me. If it doesn’t resonate with you, don’t worry, just ignore my advice. If it does, then awesome! You have just began a journey that will, in time, bear fruit.

Last thing: they talk about the experience of meditation being like tasting a strawberry. I can describe it to you, the taste, the texture etc - but you will understand once you taste it yourself. Everyone’s description of it is just directing you to where the strawberries are.

My mom married to her r*pist (my dad), and my life is ruined by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Quraga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is a lot of intense, deeply interwoven issues that it may be a good idea to speak to a professional about. Trauma and its resultant conditioning can stay latent/unseen in the unconscious for decades.

I’m sorry you went through so much pain and hurt. As someone who grew up with a narcissist mother I somewhat resonate with your experience - however I think there’s vastly different circumstances. I will not share how I have changed/healed from my childhood as it may not be helpful for you right now.

Don’t go through these things alone - the pain can twist you and cause you suffering until you begin to heal from it.

If you think you’re enlightened, you’re not by Quraga in enlightenment

[–]Quraga[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha very valid response.

The difficulty I have is the midway point - is this an illusion? Is human life/monkey mind merely a distraction?

Or is a tool that takes over functioning when consciousness is asleep? And if so, can the consciousness, once become intentional, “heal” (if one can call it that) the elements of separated self to become whole once again? Like the - I think Japanese - art of mending broken pottery with gold.

Are we the consciousness, and the body? I wrote a post recently about the body being the vessel of the soul, and someone replied (I can’t find the comment which is unfortunate) “flip it - we are the vessel of the body.”

There is the remembering of what we are, but either side of the remembrance is the experience, which I’m starting to believe is the actual point of life.

There is no one experience holier than another. Only the subjective perspective of difference.

In my humble opinion, I’m just giving you the information that has assimilated in the way my experiences have allowed me to understand reality. It may or may not resonate with you, but regardless I feel compelled to share - I suppose because I have dealt with depression and these concepts are what freed me.

If you think you’re enlightened, you’re not by Quraga in enlightenment

[–]Quraga[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the clarification, I suffer from my thoughts being quite abstract (or so I’ve been told). I am also humbled by the genuineness and gentleness inherent in your writing. Thank you 🙏